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ST. LOUIS MISSOURI: TRACTOR -TRAILER EXPLODES ON I-70
St. Louis Post-Disgrace ^

Posted on 11/24/2003 6:07:27 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat

Edited on 05/11/2004 5:35:08 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: Graybeard58
Oh yea, the prison is menard SP.Alot of people work there. Also the nut house,Gayce(sp) is there. Would you like to hear about the time the local cops picked up a hitch hicker,only to be overthrown and hancuffed to a tree by an inmate of this prison?Or, how about the MJ farm that was allowed to prosper,under the nose of the local shariff,that is untill the feds finaly shut it down.Shall we talk about gambling?I could go on and on but we gotta stop somewhere.
61 posted on 11/24/2003 8:08:14 PM PST by eastforker (Money is the key to justice,just ask any lawyer.)
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Target practice? Just wait until those radiation loaded trucks drive past your town on their way west to Yucca Mtn. One hand held rocket launcher is all it will take to wipe out each city.
62 posted on 11/24/2003 8:13:09 PM PST by ETERNAL WARMING
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To: Graybeard58
Simply... Chester, IL sucks! As far a Popeye and his mates we only get to see them once a year on second weekend of September! (Thank God!) ;-)
63 posted on 11/24/2003 8:18:09 PM PST by stlnative
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To: Missouri
The truck appeared to be hauling paper and office products, Bacon said. Flames and fire quickly consumed the vehicle.

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The truck explosions, which occurred near the entrance to the eastbound express lanes, were heard from blocks away.

"I heard boom, boom, boom," said Tito M

Something doesn't compute. Diesel fuel burns, but it generally doesn't go "boom, boom, boom". Seems like the truck may have been carrying something other than "paper and office products", cause they don't go "boom" either.

64 posted on 11/24/2003 8:22:13 PM PST by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: Graybeard58
Menard Prison (the prison - plus Chester Mental Health) - Duck Hunting? Hmmm... more like Turkey and Deer. Everyday in the part I live in you have to watch for them on the road. One day coming across the Chester bridge the hubby and saw at least 10 point trophy buck crossing the main road right between the cemetary and the new extension of Menard. Right by the "T" coming from the bridge at Rt 3. He was huge!
65 posted on 11/24/2003 8:24:48 PM PST by stlnative
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
Hate to break your balloon but this stuff is transported by rail and they are moving all the time:

Nuclear Train

Rail shipments of radioactive material to increase by 2,000% in 1999

CLEVELAND, Nov. 9 -- Moving trains safely has always been a major responsibility for BLE members, but that duty will be raised to a disturbing new level next year as shipments of radioactive material will increase dramatically by 2,000-3,000 percent.

Currently, an average of 20 shipments of radioactive materials are moved by trains each year in the U.S. However, the number of shipments will rise to between 400 and 600 next year, according to the Federal Railroad Administration.

The shipments will consist of high level radioactive waste and spent nuclear fuel, and some shipments will travel as far as 1,500 miles.

"We are disturbed by these alarmingly high numbers," BLE President Clarence Monin said. "However, we are working closely with the FRA and rail carriers to determine the safest possible way to ship this hazardous cargo."

The BLE and other rail labor unions met with the FRA in July to develop a shipping plan. Representatives from the BLE, the Transport Workers Union of America, the Transportation Communications Union, the Brotherhood of Maintenance of Way Employes, and the American Train Dispatchers Department of the BLE proposed the following concerns:

"Because nuclear power plants are located all throughout the United States, we can expect to see increased movement of nuclear waste on much of the nation's rail network," Monin said. "This is a major issue, and of great concern to locomotive engineers and the public in general."

The FRA's current policy for the shipment of radioactive material was developed in 1986. A new policy is being developed in conjunction with the Department of Energy and the Association of American Railroads.

In preparation for the increased radioactive shipments, the FRA plans to hire 32 new inspectors. The role of these inspectors will be to go over the routes and inspect the locomotives and cars that will carry the radioactive materials.

While no FRA inspectors will be on board the train during shipment, they plan to require a railroad company officer to be in the cab of the lead locomotive.

In general, all trains carrying the radioactive material will be required to travel 10 mph lower than existing track speed, but no higher than 50 mph. Crews will be briefed prior to departure, and the present plan calls for a dedicated train to haul the shipment. However, the DOE is leaning toward more conventional rail shipping standards.

The FRA will inspect all track for proper gauge prior to the shipment and will inspect all bridges along the route. Each train will be equipped with a two-way End-of-Train braking device for each trip.

There will be at least one buffer car between all occupied equipment and the radioactive shipment. The shipments will have a low level of radiation emission, but the DOE reports that the health effects are considered minimal even within close proximity to the shipment.

Currently, there is no requirement to "decontaminate" the shipment vehicle once the radioactive cargo is removed. The empty container will not be placarded, and there is no plan to provide escort for an empty shipment. The container is not a "highly visible" or distinguishable vehicle, and the DOE and FRA have no authority to require special handling of the empty containers.

While the DOE has a policy of "openness" regarding the shipments, it will not release specific information on routes and times of departure.

The FRA also plans to promote a highway-rail grade crossing plan. Specifically, it plans to focus on routine Operation Lifesaver training in communities along the designated routes.

Each BLE local division has been issued a book titled, "A guide to Foreign Research Reactor Spent Fuel." The book outlines how spent nuclear fuel is to be transported, handled, safeguarded and stored in the U.S. BLE members can contact their local chairman to review the booklet.

Nuclear waste shipping casks

IU-04 Shipping Cask

The IU-04 cask has two concentric walls of steel, and the area between the steel walls is filled with lead for radiation shielding.

NAC-LWT Shipping Cask

The body of the NAC-LWT cask consists of a 0.7-inch thick stainless steel inner shell, a 5.7-inch thick gamma shield, a 1.2-inch thick stainless steel outer shell, and a neutron shield tank.

 

Nuclear waste is shipped in these special containers, called Type B transportation casks. They are ruggedly constructed and designed to retain their contents in the event of a major accident and to limit radiation emitted to allowable levels. One type of Type B cask weighs nearly 26 tons, is constructed of steel and lined with aluminum, and has walls approximately eight inches thick.

http://www.ble.org/pr/newsletter/1198newsletter/page2.html
66 posted on 11/24/2003 8:33:59 PM PST by 76834
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To: eastforker
Gacy was fried years ago they moved him upstate to do it - The Sheriff is gone, well he still lives here. (if you ever come back into town and go down the road to the Chester Bridge - look to your left for some angel statues and you will see his house that was built a few years ago.) But he was forced basically into retirement. I think the one your talking about had a last name starting with a "P" right? Not too long ago (before he was forced out) he was on his hog (harley) going up Route 3 (north) he had an ankle gun holster and lost his freaken gun somewhere on RT. 3, but he did not know where it fell out - He had a whole crew looking for it, even had some trusted inmates in chains looking for it from what I heard. Come to find out some teenager that was driving behind him saw it fly out and stopped and picked it up. It pop up somewhere or the kid eventually turn it in.
67 posted on 11/24/2003 8:36:30 PM PST by stlnative
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Could be because nearly every disaster thread features a race to be first. This time, I won.

Wow, you are so much smarter than any of the rest of us.

68 posted on 11/24/2003 8:40:14 PM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: Missouri
Keep us updated pal
69 posted on 11/24/2003 8:41:14 PM PST by JustPiper (For Cooper and Logan - You are well-loved)
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
Just wait until those radiation loaded trucks drive past your town on their way west to Yucca Mtn. One hand held rocket launcher is all it will take to wipe out each city.

I've seen so much sarcasm in the years at FR and so many things I and other's posted maade light of, fun of. And guess what? A bunch of them have come to pass. I hope we are wrong on this EW.

70 posted on 11/24/2003 8:44:00 PM PST by JustPiper (For Cooper and Logan - You are well-loved)
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To: El Gato
Good points Gato
71 posted on 11/24/2003 8:44:44 PM PST by JustPiper (For Cooper and Logan - You are well-loved)
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6/10/2003
72 posted on 11/24/2003 9:17:09 PM PST by stlnative
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To: El Gato
I'd wait for confirmation of Tito's story. Eye witnesses (*Ear* Witnesses in this case?) tend to make stuff up to please the reporters fawning over them.

"I was sitting there watching TV when all of a sudden I heard fire trucks" doesn't get your name in print.

73 posted on 11/24/2003 9:31:00 PM PST by bluefish
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Could be because nearly every disaster thread features a race to be first. This time, I won.

Stupid me, here I thought all this time that islam was a religion not a race.

74 posted on 11/24/2003 9:37:38 PM PST by Lady Heron
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Anybody remember that FedEx truck that blew up on the north side of St. Louis(I-270)? Wasn't it about a year ago?
75 posted on 11/24/2003 9:42:44 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat (www.firemackbrown.com, www.firecarlreese.com)
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To: Missouri
The abandoned car struck by the tractor trailer was seen parked on the highway shoulder at 5 a.m. Monday, said Don Houston, who drives I-70 daily. "A few people were swerving to avoid hitting it this morning."
Abondoned car sitting there since " 5 AM ", people swerving to miss it all day long!! Sounds like a lawsuit to me.
76 posted on 11/24/2003 9:46:27 PM PST by Peace will be here soon
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To: Lady Heron
Oh geez. Do you ever THINK before you post?
77 posted on 11/24/2003 9:47:04 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Of course there's more to Science than just hurting animals, but frankly its the part I like best.)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Yes. The cause was from the fuel tank exploding when it was struck by a car. Sounds like a similar thing happened here.
78 posted on 11/24/2003 9:47:49 PM PST by Peace will be here soon
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
Target practice? Just wait until those radiation loaded trucks drive past your town on their way west to Yucca Mtn. One hand held rocket launcher is all it will take to wipe out each city.

It's truly remarkable how Left-wing envirowhacko paranoia and propaganda about radiation has so penetrated the popular psyche that it's simply accepted as a matter of course routinely even on a board like FR.

Though a component of it is people are so desperately hoping for a really catastrophic terror attack that they accept the propaganda regarding all things nuclear so an attack on a nuke plant (unlikely to achieve much of anything) or some sort of dirty bomb(unpleasant, but highly overrated, main impact will be psychological) can be inflated into the catastrophe that is sought.

79 posted on 11/24/2003 9:53:31 PM PST by John H K
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Sorry, you are right totally misread the statement. Very stupid of me, have a headache and should not post, because that is when I tend to switch things around.
80 posted on 11/24/2003 10:07:46 PM PST by Lady Heron
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