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| Nov 25, 2003 3:12 pm
| 1010Wins
Posted on 11/25/2003 12:41:19 PM PST by Calpernia
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To: tacticalogic
My estimate is closer to the truth than your estimate.
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posted on
11/26/2003 12:09:32 PM PST
by
robertpaulsen
(I love the spell check. It confirms my infallibillity.)
To: robertpaulsen
No it isn't.
102
posted on
11/26/2003 12:11:29 PM PST
by
tacticalogic
(Controlled application of force is the sincerest form of communication.)
To: Protagoras
Supply will always expand to meet demand. And demand increases as price decreases (the result of increased supply). It is a dynamic relationship. The problem can be improved by reduction of both/either supply and/or demand.
103
posted on
11/26/2003 12:32:33 PM PST
by
Semper
To: warchild9
I never said Islam = peace. My point was that bigotry signals a botmind, someone who's not capable of thinking, only feeling. That's kind of interesting considering that my bigotry against islam came from rational analysis of their book and simple observation of their culture and actions.
Islam sucks .... people that practice islam are deluded.
At least practice a religion whose tenets contribute to the fabric of society.
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posted on
11/26/2003 12:35:36 PM PST
by
Centurion2000
(Resolve to perform what you ought, perform without fail what you resolve.)
To: Semper
Righto, so decrease the demand because the other strategy is an abject failure.
The other problem with your idea is that the demand for mind altering substances will always remain at levels unacceptable to warriors. You are focusing on just a few of those substances. New more dangerous substances have always filled the void left by your strategy. That's why we now have the scourges of PCP and the like. And kids huffing household cleaners and dying.
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posted on
11/26/2003 12:41:47 PM PST
by
Protagoras
(Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children)
To: robertpaulsen
I don't think 6 people could support the home hydroponics industry. Perhaps people want fresh basil all year, but I don't think so.
106
posted on
11/26/2003 1:00:51 PM PST
by
eno_
(Freedom Lite - it's almost worth defending)
To: eno_
Hmmmm. On the other hand, wouldn't the home hydroponics industry be booming if 60 million people were using it?
107
posted on
11/26/2003 1:07:12 PM PST
by
robertpaulsen
(I love the spell check. It confirms my infallibillity.)
To: Protagoras
"demand for mind altering substances will always remain at levels unacceptable to warriors."Is the murder rate acceptable? Armed robbery? Burglary? Assaults? Rapes?
Why should drug usage be any different?
108
posted on
11/26/2003 1:10:56 PM PST
by
robertpaulsen
(I love the spell check. It confirms my infallibillity.)
To: robertpaulsen
Those are rights violating activites. They are therfore unacceptable.
If you think that any of those crimes will ever cease you are more out of touch than already evident.
109
posted on
11/26/2003 1:14:45 PM PST
by
Protagoras
(Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children)
To: genefromjersey
Some Freepers insist the solution is to legalize anything and everything.I have struggled with this approach too. However, when I hear other Libertarians try to flesh out how this might look, they always seem to point to countries where people are "free" to use drugs, but then those who choose to live their lives responsibly are "obligated" to fund the inevitable medical costs.
Freedom needs to be commensurate with the responsibility born by the free.
110
posted on
11/26/2003 1:47:42 PM PST
by
SoulStorms
(The mind all logic is like the knife all blade. It cuts the hand that holds it. -- R. Tagore)
To: Protagoras
"Those are rights violating activites. They are therfore unacceptable.""Rights violating"! Since when is THAT the standard?
Drug use is also unacceptable. As is prostitution. Gambling. Pornography. Suicide. Gay marriage. Unlimited immigration.
But I suppose you're in favor of all these activities, good Libertarian that you are. Or are you a libertarian? Or maybe you don't like labels?
I ask you -- What selfish, self-centered, immoral, hedonistic individualist wouldn't be in favor of these activities, huh?
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posted on
11/26/2003 1:56:05 PM PST
by
robertpaulsen
(I love the spell check. It confirms my infallibillity.)
To: robertpaulsen
Drug use is also unacceptable. As is prostitution. Gambling. Pornography. Suicide. Gay marriage. Unlimited immigration.Unacceptable to who?
112
posted on
11/26/2003 2:46:07 PM PST
by
tacticalogic
(Controlled application of force is the sincerest form of communication.)
To: tacticalogic
"Unacceptable to who?" Unacceptable to the vast majority of moral and religious people for whom the constitution was written.
Unacceptable to the productive, tax-paying, law-abiding members of our society trying to live their lives and raise our next generation in a world free from drugs and gambling and prostitution and pornography.
Unacceptable to people who are part of a community -- a community that values character, honesty, hard work, and personal responsibility.
Unacceptable to people who put the needs of neighborhood, community, and society over a selfish, self-centered, immoral, hedonistic, individualistic lifestyle.
That's who.
To: Maria S
It's easy to make mistakes when children are speaking into one's ears, ma'am.
To: robertpaulsen
"Rights violating"! Since when is THAT the standard?That has always been the standard for normal people. That leaves you out.
Or maybe you don't like labels?
I don't mind labels, I have one for you.
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posted on
11/28/2003 6:59:56 AM PST
by
Protagoras
(Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children)
To: robertpaulsen
I don't see it, rp. By your own standards it doesn't hold up. Federal law, the Supreme Law of the Land and Voice and Will of The People is doesn't hold gambling, prostitution, suicide, pre-marital or extra-marital sex, homosexuality, or the bulk of pornography to be illegal. Some drugs are illegal, but most are available OTC or by prescription. They come with instructions to guard against abuse, but there is no law that says you must heed those instructions. If none of this is illegal, then by your own logic and arguments, the message is that it is "acceptable", and if it is acceptable, then we are encouraging our children to engage in it.
By your own standards, we are, as a nation, selfish, self-centered, individualistic hedonists. Except for you, maybe.
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posted on
11/28/2003 7:29:52 AM PST
by
tacticalogic
(Controlled application of force is the sincerest form of communication.)
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