Classic Inside Job (JFK baggage handlers smuggled $$ millions in drugs)

1010 WINS, NEW YORK ^ | Nov 25, 2003 3:12 pm | 1010Wins

[God is good]

No, the "serious thing" has already happened (Sept. 11th). This just goes to show that the Fed Gov has no intention of ever doing anything. It's PC to hilt till the bitter end, I'm afraid.

[Brian Allen]

I one millisecond the international drug-crime industry could be totally stopped, all domestic "drug-related" crime would be history -- and the simply bloody awful flow of unimaginable riches to the world's most evil would cease on the minute.

REPEAL PROHIBITION

[warchild9]

According to INTERPOL, the Israelis are the biggest perveyors of pornography (particularly child porn) and stolen military secrets (mostly from us) in the world. Should we condemn all Israelis for this?

[eno_]

Did you derive pleasure from trying to exploit me? Trying to be grandiose?

Wow, interesting complex you have there, even if it makes no sense.

I derive pleasure from pointing out how idiotic it is to think you can ride the government tiger when it is eating people you don't like and then avoid having it eat you when you get off.

In repressive societies people fight their private fights by denouncing each other to the authorities. How long do you think you have before someone does that to you? And when it happens, what will you think of the laws that enable government thugs to ransack your home, without a warrant, because it is also a business.

Of course, we won't know what you think, because there will be a gag order, too.

[dervil]

First of all, I was hooked on morphine in WW II, medical reasons, I went through withdrawal same year. I never used
since. I was a achoholic. for 58 years of my life, I would do anything to get a drink. I have not had a drank for 18 yrs. Only because I had help. And it alcohol is legal. Make it all legal, Tax the hell out of it like they do alcohol, use the money for treating addicts. Take the big profit out of it.
As long as people the habit the Will find away to get it.

[Maria S]

"For 90% of addicts, the drug of choice is alcohol."

I'm not sure if that's true or not...you may be right, however! I DO know that at some AA meetings, the hardline 'Bill's friends' do NOT tolerate very well those that are 'addicted' to things like the painkillers Rush was on (and there are A LOT more of that type than you might think). They want only recovering alcoholics at their meetings; let the druggies (no matter WHAT drug) go to NA meetings.

On the other hand, there are lots of drug abusers (the legal kind, NOT the illegal stuff) who just LOVE to act disdainful toward alcoholics..."my 'quality of life help' is NOT like being a drunk!" type of stuff. HA! Just try taking away their 'extra helpings' of Paxil, Valium [a few still use this crap], etc.

[Maria S]

Please post the URL so I can access INTERPOL, read the statistics on how bad the Israelis really are, and then whip out a nasty e-mail to the folks in charge in Israel! This porn stuff from the Israelis HAS to stop...at once!!

What's the PhD in?

[Maria S]

"I am a "former smoker", and I have never had to struggle at all to stay away from tobacco- one of the most addicting" drugs known."

I salute you for being able to quit smoking...I have a couple of acquaintances who have been addicted (In a BAD way!) to crack and coke. They've been clean for years...but they STILL cannot give up the cigarettes!

[FITZ]

We eliminated the black market caused by alcohol and now look at the alcohol addiction problems we now have.

True --- drug addicts are not going to suddenly become responsible citizens just by having their PCP, crack, meth and the rest legalized. Drug cartels aren't going to become non-violent criminals and put on suits and ties and find jobs that require work. PCP, meth, crack and the rest aren't going to be made safe by the government and the FDA testing them for purity.

One thing that would really help I think would be the elimination of all welfare programs --- all SSI, food stamps, Medicaid etc for any drug abusers or their families. Allow employers to fire drug user and allow drug abusers to pay their own rehab costs. Drug abuse is government subsidized.

[warchild9]

My PhD will be in Modern European History. I'm still working on the last part of my dissertation, and then will have to undergo the review process. After two years of research, I'm sick to death of my topic, and will glad this is all over. (My specialty has become associations between the economic buildup in the Southeast before and during WWII, lend lease, and its affects on Great Britain and the Soviet Union.)

Just google "INTERPOL", "Israel", and "pornography."
Also, punch up "Israel", "Russia", and "white slavery." That one's a real eye-opener, too.

[bassmaner]

We eliminated the black market caused by alcohol and now look at the alcohol addiction problems we now have.

The same addiction problems existed from 1920 to 1933, and were exacerbated by gangland violence and sickness and death from consumption of unregulated poisons being passed off as consumable alcohol.

Any way you look at it, prohibition causes more problems than it solves.

[eno_]

Google up the studies and see for yourself. I think you will find that over time drug use is stable and that, no matter the local laws on other drugs, alcohol is always the overwhelmingly dominant drug.

[eno_]

Certainly abuse of the gravy train makes it easier not to seek help to get out of addiction. SSI abuse is particularly burdensome on those of us that carry the load. But, in part, you are missing the point: The vast majority of addicts are alcoholics. And if you are correct that addicts go on the dole and burden the rest of us, it is certain that the majority of those are alcoholics. Unless you have a plan to deal with the fact that the vast majority of the addiction-related entitlements burden is caused by alcohol, you really don't have a plan that makes a difference to us burden-bearers financially.

You also have to count the 35-70 billion dollar annual cost of the Drug War as part of the benefit of doing things differently.

[eno_]

Yeah, funny how the Drug War does not extend to insurance-paid happy pills.

A little-known provision of the Medicare Reform bill - I think, if I understand the press accounts correctly - makes it possible to have MSAs nation-wide. This is an incredibly good thing for those of us that don't abuse our insurance coverage. The pill-poppers will now have to bear their own burden and I can escape that cost.

[FITZ]

But if we drop the drug war completely and don't spend a single dime on inspecting what comes over our borders, allow any kinds of drugs or any substances to be brought into this country or through the airports, that's not going to lead to good things.

I include alcoholics --- let them pay for their own rehab and don't provide them or their families food stamps, free housing, SSI, Medicaid or anything else.

I'm all for letting everyone ingest or inject any amount of poison into their bodies --- but only after Medicaid and welfare are denied them. Otherwise I end up paying for them.

[eno_]

While there is some smuggling of alcohol and cigarettes (a good reason not to tax cigs quite so heavily) there is nothing like the level of smuggling and associated violent crime as with other drugs. If drugs are legalized, the smuggling business is sharply reduced because there is no money in it.

A big part of the reason to end the Drug War is to reduce the pressure on our borders, and this story is the perfect illustration: If rampers and security people are bent already, they are ripe to be bribed to put anything on a plane.

[FITZ]

I agree about the insurance-paid drugs too. I use no drugs of any kind, not tylenol, not aspirin, nothing. I should not have to pay for anyone else's drugs or poor health care as the result of their drug use. I choose a high deductible health insurance plan for that reason and the government should quit providing for those who choose to drink or get high.

[FITZ]

If rampers and security people are bent already, they are ripe to be bribed to put anything on a plane.

Ending all inspections at the ports of entry isn't going to stop the rampers and security people ---- it would just make it completely safe for them to allow anything in. The drug cartels will be all the richer if there is no penalty for them bringing truckloads of drugs over the border. I don't see how it ends the violence and competition just because we would allow them to transport anything they like.

Around here they have a problem with smuggled pirated CD's ---- for some reason copied CD's is a big crime --- it's illegal to bring them in, but they do anyhow --- decriminalizing it and getting rid of customs completely would save money but there would be more pirated CDs.

[cherry]

"Let's put things simply: As long as we, the American people crave drugs, someone from some part of the world will step up and supply them to us."

so very, very true, and true in all activities, such as pornagraphy...

as long as someone is throwing money around, you will get human beings to perform.....

I see none of it...either illegal drugs or pornagraphy....as victimless.....there are always victims...always...

[bc2]

I don't think anyone advocates stopping border inspections. Regardless of the legality of substances, we should always have border control. Would you be able to import XX amount of a certain drug with a heft import tax? Maybe. But for one thing, if marijuana was legal, there would be no demand for low-quality foreign weed. The lowest quality stuff would be imported from Canada (where now it's considered "mid grade"). The prices would plummet if everyone could grow marijuana, and it is a weed almost anyone can grow in their garden with little knowledge or experience. That alone would be a huge benifit to border control. I have no idea if you could produce cocaine or opiates domestically, but if it will help secure the border, isn't it at least worth investigating?

I agree, let's get rid of the welfare state first, then take a stab at the police state brought on by the drug war.

Let's not treat addiction and non-violent recreation as criminal behaviour, and when drug use/abuse leads to criminal actions, prosecute those criminal actions.

We will end a lot of crime, the courts will be able to punish criminals easier, and for longer (no more letting violent criminals out to make room for some guy serving a mandatory minimum drug sentence) and we will instill respect for the law in society, where people now see the folly of treating non-criminal actions as crime.

I am sick and tired of the US government enabling terrorists to establish international smuggling networks, and enabling these terrorists to enrich themselves because this prohibition has artificially inflated the prices of drugs. And I am sick and tired of getting taxed into submission to make government more evil and intrusive, to build more prisons where non violent people are being punished where actual criminals should be, and to perpetuate more gun control on our citizens.