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Republican Aide Improperly Got Democratic Memos[Hatch aide]
REUTERS | November 25, 2003

Posted on 11/25/2003 6:04:46 PM PST by the caption king

By REUTERS

Filed at 8:10 p.m. ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A top U.S. Senate Republican expressed ``deep regret'' on Tuesday in announcing that an internal investigation of computer records found one of his staffers had ``improperly accessed'' Democratic documents.

Judiciary Committee Chairman Orrin Hatch said he placed the staffer on administrative leave with pay pending a separate probe by the Senate sergeant at arms, Bill Pickle.

Hatch, who had initially ridiculed the allegations, also said a former staffer ``may also have been involved,'' but declined to identify either person by name.

``I am mortified that this improper, unethical and simply unacceptable breach of confidential files may have occurred on my watch,'' the Utah Republican told a news conference.

Hatch said the staffer who got access to the memos denied giving them to the news media and it remained unclear how reporters got them.

The disclosure came a week after congressional law enforcement authorities began looking into what Democrats called an apparent computer theft of 14 staff memos critical of President Bush's embattled judicial nominees.

The Democratic memos were quoted in The Wall Street Journal and The Washington Times earlier this month.

According to the memos, Democrats on Hatch's panel conferred with liberal groups in opposing Bush's most conservative judicial nominees.

Hatch had suggested that the memos had been turned over to the news media by a ``conscience-stricken'' Democratic staffer.

But the senator said on Tuesday that after the Democratic concerns were voiced, he had ``two experienced federal prosecutors'' assigned to his panel interview about 50 people even as computer records were secured.

``It is with deep regret I must report today the interviews conducted to date have revealed that at least one current member of Judiciary Committee majority staff had improperly accessed at least some of the documents referenced in the media reports,'' Hatch said.

Democrats on Hatch's committee said through a spokeswoman they were ``saddened and disappointed to have their suspicions confirmed that Republican staff violated the privacy of Senate computer files.''

The spokeswoman, Tracy Schmaler, also said, ``The investigation that counts is the one being conducted by the Senate Sergeant at Arms.''

``Democratic members ... look forward to the results of that ongoing investigation when it is completed so that all can know the full extent of this violation and wrongdoing,'' she said.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2004memo; memogate

1 posted on 11/25/2003 6:04:47 PM PST by the caption king
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To: the caption king
Gee, I don't remember this much fuss being kicked up back in 2000 when that Rat mole swiped the tape with the entire Bush campaign strategy and mailed it to the DNC. Does anybody?
2 posted on 11/25/2003 6:11:10 PM PST by truthkeeper
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To: the caption king
Poor Orrin.
3 posted on 11/25/2003 6:13:27 PM PST by syriacus (In this world there's matter, antimatter, and ANTIFACT. Schumer is an expert on antifacts.)
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To: the caption king
GOSH!!

This Means that a "Sadly Misguided Member of the Staff" SOMEHOW released sensitive Information to "The Public."

WHAT a Tragedy!!

Doc

4 posted on 11/25/2003 6:13:35 PM PST by Doc On The Bay
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To: the caption king
The democRATs have successfully turned all attention from the treasonous contents of their memos to how they were leaked.
5 posted on 11/25/2003 6:13:54 PM PST by Bubba_Leroy
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To: Bubba_Leroy
that's what im concerned about.everyone will focus on how the memo's were swiped forgetting what the content of the memo say's.this whole thing is outrageous.
didnt Sean Hannity say they were not from a republican?
i think the content's of the memo are much important then how they were procurred.
6 posted on 11/25/2003 6:17:28 PM PST by suzyq5558 (the nine dwarves= idiocrats on parade)
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To: Doc On The Bay
Anybody know if you can generate a Freedom of Information filing on Congressional records? It would be nice to post all their racist and bigoted thoughts.
7 posted on 11/25/2003 6:18:03 PM PST by BkBinder
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To: the caption king
Can the Republicans handle the fight we are about to see for the election, or not. How could Hatch allow this story to be about the hacking talents of some staffer?

Get it together fellows.. The clock is ticking...342 days left.

They know the media is going to be out for blood and looking for anything negative to print about the Republicans. It they are going to "obtain" documents, why not have a plan lined up for the after effects. Even if they really did not know that the documents were obtained illegally, they need to keep the focus on the Memo itself. that is exactly what the democrats would do. That is where they have the upper hand over us. They know how to spin a story to thier agenda.

There is a double standard for everyhting Republicans do, especially right now. No more Mr. nice guy.
8 posted on 11/25/2003 6:21:10 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross
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To: Bubba_Leroy
That's what ticks ME off. And watch the media jump all over it.
9 posted on 11/25/2003 6:21:49 PM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (I don't suffer from stress. I'm a carrier.)
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To: the caption king
Geez,,,the demoncreat are planning on selling the country out, we got the memo and now we're going to fire the guy that got it.

Remember the ongoing bitching about the army Col who saved his troops and is now facing courts martial???

What a bunch of whimps.

10 posted on 11/25/2003 6:26:24 PM PST by pfflier
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To: the caption king
The guy should be considered a hero and whisleblower, and protected under the whisleblower laws.

E-mail Hatch.

http://www.senate.gov/~hatch/index.cfm?Fuseaction=Offices.Contact

I thought Dems like whisleblowers, or is that only when it helps them?

The staffer exposed treasonous activity going on in our own government, by the Democrats, who are undermining the US, thereby helping our enemies and the terrorists. The guy should get a medal.
11 posted on 11/25/2003 6:28:18 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: the caption king
Traitors don't like it when you discover their traitorous plans. Let them pursue it. It will keep their treason front and center.
12 posted on 11/25/2003 6:28:58 PM PST by doug from upland (Hillary didn't hire Pelicano.......my butt)
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To: suzyq5558
didnt Sean Hannity say they were not from a republican?

Hannity's memo was from the Intelligence Committee. This is referring to a series of memos between Dems on the Judiciary Committee.

13 posted on 11/25/2003 6:36:35 PM PST by Dolphy
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To: the caption king
Once again Orrin Hatch is outmaneuvered. Can you imagine the Democrats EVER investigating their own people like this? Who cares who the whistle blower was, when the memo was treasonous?
14 posted on 11/25/2003 6:56:26 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Bubba_Leroy
Yep, with them it's never the sinner but rather the whistle blower.
15 posted on 11/25/2003 7:08:10 PM PST by Let's Roll (And those that cried Appease! Appease! are hanged by those they tried to please!")
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To: Dolphy
DOH!YOU ARE SO RIGHT. ok im going to go flog myself now:>0
16 posted on 11/25/2003 7:08:38 PM PST by suzyq5558 (the nine dwarves= idiocrats on parade)
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To: Bubba_Leroy
The democRATs have successfully turned all attention from the treasonous contents of their memos to how they were leaked.

Exactly!! Although I agree this needs to be dealt with, the REAL ISSUE is what was IN those MEMOS!!!! Is that going to be SWEPT under the rug?

17 posted on 11/25/2003 7:13:11 PM PST by pollywog (Psalm 121;1 I Lift mine eyes to the hills from whence cometh my help.)
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To: pollywog
in a word? probably..............
18 posted on 11/25/2003 7:22:41 PM PST by suzyq5558 (the nine dwarves= idiocrats on parade)
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To: the caption king
Hell, this is the only thing I can think of that Hatch or his staff have done right for the past several years...

If the fire the staff person..they must also fire the Senator who authorized the treacherous use of the Committee..

Semper Fi
19 posted on 11/25/2003 7:23:56 PM PST by river rat (War works......It brings Peace... Give war a chance to destroy Jihadists...)
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To: the caption king
Wow this is great.
Not only do we expose the despicable secret Democrat memos, but we show how morally superior we are by confessing we accessed them using less than ethically pure methods.
This is great PR.
20 posted on 11/25/2003 7:24:32 PM PST by Jorge
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To: the caption king
These are the same rats who whined about wanting to see every piece of paper that Miguel Estrada ever scratched on.
21 posted on 11/25/2003 7:26:50 PM PST by TC Rider (The United States Constitution 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: the caption king
Judiciary Committee Chairman Orrin Hatch said he placed the staffer on administrative leave with pay pending a separate probe by the Senate sergeant at arms, Bill Pickle.

God Bless the staffer. That alarm needed raising.

Becki

22 posted on 11/25/2003 7:28:47 PM PST by Becki (Pray continually for our leaders and our troops!)
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To: truthkeeper
Does anybody?

Well actually. yes. How is it that you remember?

23 posted on 11/25/2003 7:33:07 PM PST by Doe Eyes
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To: the caption king
"``conscience-stricken'' Democratic staffer"

That's an oxymoron, right?

24 posted on 11/25/2003 7:41:59 PM PST by Endeavor
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To: Doe Eyes
From our discussions on Free Republic, which is hardly the mainstream media.
25 posted on 11/25/2003 7:43:09 PM PST by truthkeeper
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To: Cicero
Investigating? They'd have given the order to do it!
26 posted on 11/25/2003 7:46:59 PM PST by Sofa King (-I am Sofa King- tired of liberal BS! http://www.angelfire.com/art2/sofaking/)
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To: Cicero
What's the saying? "Don't count your Hatch before he chickens"?
27 posted on 11/25/2003 7:48:26 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus
Priceless!
28 posted on 11/25/2003 7:50:30 PM PST by Endeavor
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To: Cicero; Howlin; Miss Marple; mhking; Poohbah; Southack
No, I can't imagine them doing that.

Why? Because they have no sense of shame, much less ethics and a sense of right and wrong, which the memos that were accessed PROVE.

Senator Hatch, on the other hand, does have a sense of ethics and does not buy into "the ends justify the means" the way Bill Clinton did when he accepted ChiCom donations to the PRC and lied about Monica (along with a host of other things).
29 posted on 11/25/2003 7:53:00 PM PST by hchutch ("I don't see what the big deal is, I really don't." - Major Vic Deakins, USAF (ret.))
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To: Bubba_Leroy
"The democRATs have successfully turned all attention from the treasonous contents of their memos to how they were leaked."

It worked fifty years ago. Whittaker Chambers, the whistleblower, was painted as the bad guy, and Alger Hiss was just a victim.

The Left has been using this tactic for a long time.


30 posted on 11/25/2003 8:05:12 PM PST by Rocky
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To: Rocky
Sorry, folks, but you just can't go breaking into the computers of the other side and fishing around. Daschle can't do it to us, although he probably would if he could, and we can't do it to them. While both sides would occasionally get evidence of felonious conduct by the other side, most of it would be private strategic planning by politicians that they had privately prepared in the course of their duties. We have to let the bad stuff go in order to let both sides do their job.

It would be nice if there was such a thing as a "conscience strickent Demorat staffer" but there never has been such a thing. We still can't play the game this way.

31 posted on 11/25/2003 8:16:52 PM PST by Defiant (North America: The good, the bad and the ugly.)
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To: hchutch
"Senator Hatch, on the other hand, does have a sense of ethics and does not buy into "the ends justify the means"

Yeah. That's why, as a songwriter/senator, he proposed remotely blowing up the computers of citizens suspected of having MP3's on their computers.
32 posted on 11/25/2003 8:25:04 PM PST by At _War_With_Liberals
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To: At _War_With_Liberals
Senate Reps vs Dems is like Pee Wee Herman vs Mike Tyson.
33 posted on 11/25/2003 8:28:27 PM PST by At _War_With_Liberals
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To: the caption king
How many rats complained about the Pentagon Papers? These people are traitors.
34 posted on 11/25/2003 8:29:44 PM PST by Antoninus (In hoc signo, vinces )
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To: Dolphy
Hannity's memo was from the Intelligence Committee. This is referring to a series of memos between Dems on the Judiciary Committee.

Um...Do you honestly think there's no connection? How many people were out trolling the servers in a relatively short period of time?

35 posted on 11/25/2003 8:32:36 PM PST by huck von finn
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To: the caption king
The person in question needs to receive a massive bonus payment, a lavish free dinner at DC's best restaurant and other "punishment."
36 posted on 11/25/2003 8:35:38 PM PST by Chu Gary
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To: Defiant
"you just can't go breaking into the computers of the other side "

Agreed. But let's not try to run our public discourse the way a judge runs a court. You know, instructions like, "The jury will disregard that last comment." The information is out there now, and we are entitled to consider it. So, let's try not to let the issue about how it was obtained obscure the fact that the letters exist, and that they contain damning evidence of Democrats' motives.
37 posted on 11/25/2003 8:36:53 PM PST by Rocky
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To: the caption king
[ `It is with deep regret I must report today the interviews conducted to date have revealed that at least one current member of Judiciary Committee majority staff had improperly accessed at least some of the documents referenced in the media reports,'' Hatch said. ]

Hmmm, Hatch running damage control for the democrats.... as he usually does... just whats ON those 900+ FBI tapes Hillery and Bill have saved in their computers... A few other publicans act strangely too ... Hatch is not Bi-partisan hes poly-partisan... as is McLame, Spectre and others...

38 posted on 11/25/2003 8:38:38 PM PST by hosepipe
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To: Defiant
"Sorry, folks, but you just can't go breaking into the computers of the other side and fishing around. Daschle can't do it to us, although he probably would if he could, and we can't do it to them. While both sides would occasionally get evidence of felonious conduct by the other side, most of it would be private strategic planning by politicians that they had privately prepared in the course of their duties. We have to let the bad stuff go in order to let both sides do their job.

It would be nice if there was such a thing as a "conscience strickent Demorat staffer" but there never has been such a thing. We still can't play the game this way."

I'm disposed to agree with your thinking, but OTOH, that sort of thinking has been the downfall of the Republican Party for many years. The Dims play by a different set of rules while we Pubbies struggle to keep our pants clean as we walk thru their mud. Sorry, Defiant, it's a losing strategy. We need to get a lot more aggressive.


39 posted on 11/25/2003 8:45:40 PM PST by Chu Gary
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To: Rocky
I agree with that point. Punish the staffer. Slam the Dims who wrote the memo. I am strongly against the analogous exclusionary rule, which requires the suppression of relevant evidence if the police collected it incorrectly. The person still committed the crime, and should be punished. The officer who did something wrong should likewise suffer a penalty, one that is proportionate to the offense. Failed to read the guy his rights? Dock his pay, but don't put a murderer back out on the street.
40 posted on 11/25/2003 8:45:54 PM PST by Defiant (North America: The good, the bad and the ugly.)
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To: Becki
The staffer is a patriot but he needed to obey the law and remain undetected.
41 posted on 11/25/2003 8:48:02 PM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: Chu Gary
Maybe we should follow Daschle and Pelosi around, tape them surreptitiously and so on, and then use whatever we get, which I bet would be juicy.....or, maybe we should follow the law, and continue undoing the legacy of traitorous Rat government.
42 posted on 11/25/2003 8:49:03 PM PST by Defiant (North America: The good, the bad and the ugly.)
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To: huck von finn
Um...Do you honestly think there's no connection? How many people were out trolling the servers in a relatively short period of time?

It's possible but Hatch wasn't addressing that memo which is what I pointed out. Hannity also said that we wouldn't believe who gave him the Intel memo (as I recall). Certainly a Republican staffer wouldn't be a surprise.

43 posted on 11/25/2003 9:07:19 PM PST by Dolphy
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
This is a Ruters story, it hasn't been picked up likely because the media knows that if they metion how the memos were obtained they would also have to mention their contents, because of that we are safe.

That said, the staffers should be fired, not just put on leave. Criminal acts could cause huge harm and should not be tolerated, ever.
44 posted on 11/26/2003 5:49:59 AM PST by Voteamerica
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To: Chu Gary
So we follow the Dems into the type of sewer that Bill Clinton helped create?

Why not just come out and say lying and cheating is okay - as long as your motives are pure?
45 posted on 11/26/2003 6:04:10 AM PST by hchutch ("I don't see what the big deal is, I really don't." - Major Vic Deakins, USAF (ret.))
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