She Gives Thanks -- American women have much to be thankful for.

National Review Online ^ | Nov. 26, 2003 | Carrie Lukas

[AmericanInTokyo]

I think somebody needs to continue to tell great segments of American womenhood that 'it's OK. Everything's alright. You are well off. Relax.'

You may know that by the many furrowed looks of stressed out, 'issue'-burdened, rushed, irritable and neurotic anger peering back through drive-time traffic in the SUVs rear view mirror, and legions of female "f-you"s easily issuing forth from many lips, when hoped-for galleria parking spaces don't open up.

[Tamzee]

Please... I despise the feminist movement of today. Pretending that men and women enjoyed the same educational and employment opportunities 50 years ago is silly, however. Pointing out that we have American men dying is Iraq is a strawman that has nothing to do with how easily women are hired as engineers now compared to 50 years ago.

I agree with "know thy enemy", I guess I just view it somewhat differently than you do.

Liberals - special interest groups.
Conservatives - equal playing field for all.

The author is discussing the fact that women do operate on an equal playing field and NOW has no useful purpose here in America.

[AmericanInTokyo]

There is nothing really to liberate American women 'from', except perhaps their own--many of them perhaps--piled up dependency on phantom liberation, itself.

[Stop Legal Plunder]

As a woman and homemaker, I agree that a woman's highest priority should be as caregiver for the children and wife in the traditional role.

The only child-rearing term worse than "parenting" and more supportive of the feminist agenda is "caregiving". That's because anyone, even a so-called day care teacher can give care to one's child. This concept is thoroughly modern and thoroughly radical; it has nothing to do with traditional roles. Given that, conservatives must be more careful not to use the language of the enemy and, thereby, give much ground to them.

With that in mind, I hope you are mistaken in your claim that you're a caregiver to your children; rather, I hope you are their mother.

[Tamzee]

The language of the excerpt necessarily implicates the 1950s as a time when women enjoyed no choice at home or in the workplace

It was extremely limited choice based entirely on gender, not intelligence or ability.

suggests many feminist assumptions have been internalized at NRO.

Yes, an equal playing field based entirely on intelligence and ability was part of the original feminist battle-cry, but it is in fact a core plank of the right-wing with regard to all groups. She simply points out that women have achieved that. I'm suprised more gents here at FR aren't applauding her article... Code Pink is probably frothing at mouth over it ;-)

[Search4Truth]

"Pointing out that we have American men dying is Iraq is a strawman that has nothing to do with how easily women are hired as engineers now compared to 50 years ago."

The only reason American women have the right to speak in public, much less become engineers, is because there are American men killing those who would deprive them of that freedom.

[Tamzee]

There is nothing really to liberate American women 'from'

Yes, I know :-) And I enjoyed the way this column makes that very point.

[Search4Truth]

Since feminism seems to be, at any given moment, whatever is advantageous at that moment, lets review what feminism really is.

http://jkalb.freeshell.org/web/antifeminism.php

[Tamzee]

The only child-rearing term worse than "parenting" and more supportive of the feminist agenda is "caregiving". ...With that in mind, I hope you are mistaken in your claim that you're a caregiver to your children; rather, I hope you are their mother.

Oh, pish... I turned down a much desired promotion at Merrill Lynch 12 years ago when I found out I was pregnant and have been home full-time every moment since my first child was born. My entire focus since then has been on my children and I not only don't consider that a sacrifice or a technical position that even a teacher could perform, I consider my place as their full-time mother an honor and sacred gift.

Your criticizing me for using the term "caregiver" in the course of a political discussion is beyond silly... yes, I am very much their mother and thank God every day for that privilege and joy.

[ladyinred]

I feel about NOW like President Wilson's wife did of the women's right group in her day. She called them "devils" when they picketed the White House, and held them in utter contempt.

[Tamzee]

The only reason American women have the right to speak in public, much less become engineers, is because there are American men killing those who would deprive them of that freedom.

Yes, I'm aware of that. And the only reason YOU are not carrying a prayer rug around is because there are American men killing those that wish to make you do so. Your point?

Now, if you'll excuse me... this feminist radical's daughters are home from school now and we were looking foward to baking the pies together for the Thanksgiving feast I will take immense pleasure in cooking for extended family tomorrow ;-)

Happy Thanksgiving!

[Old Professer]

If Mr. Pete doesn't burn the house down. :)

[Search4Truth]

LOL Happy Thanksgiving and God bless America! :)

[Old Professer]

Doesn't that get cold?

[ShadowDancer]

With that in mind, I hope you are mistaken in your claim that you're a caregiver to your children; rather, I hope you are their mother.

Given that this woman not only stays at home to take care of her child and her husband and home but does so willingly and proudly, your nitpicking at terminology is ridiculous to say the least. How about, damn good job?

[Tamzee]

Thank you kindly, dear sir, and Happy Thanksgiving :-)