Many Women at Risk of Being Murdered Don't Know It

YahooNews ^ | 11/28/2003 | AlisonMcCook

[Publius6961]

From the article:
"Most attacks occurred around the time that women tried to end the relationship."

Pure BS.
"Most attacks occurred around the time that women tried to end started yapping nonstop about leaving the relationship."

Much more accurate.
Women who really want to leave just leave. They don't announce it.

[LibertyAndJusticeForAll]

"There are just as many men that are at risk of being murdered by cheating wives and girlfriends than men."

Not according to the FBI stats:
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius_02/xl/02tbl2-8.xls

Of 1,980 female victims, 1,778 were murdered by men.
Of 4,931 male victims, only 528 were murdered by women.

[Publius6961]

BTW, we've also told her she can't date until she's twenty ;-D

You ol' softie!
I told mine she couldn't date until she is 49!

[mattdono]

Pete,

I have reviewed your posts and I don't think that you are a DU'er in FREEPER clothing, but I want to give you a friendly piece of advice:

Don't crap and leave.

I see that in your very short time as a member you have posted a notable number of articles, but comment very rarely. If you post an article that is obviously a leftist piece of tripe, then you should give us a comment with a "heads up" or a hint in the title that it is such.

If you think that I am riding your a$$, good. I am. This is a forum that prides itself on witty and insight comments. Be all you can be, Pete, but post more than just these B.S. stories.

[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

"Most attacks occurred around the time that women tried to end started yapping nonstop about leaving the relationship."

Yeah, that's the problem with women. They just won't shut the hell up.

A good smack to the face only lasts so long, you know.

[PeteFromMontana]

"Why would any "consevative" post such an article - at least without comment ???

PeteFromMontana
Since Oct 27, 2003

Yeah, Pete, why would any conservative post this tripe? Perhaps, you a DU'er on vacation? Perhaps you are trying to stir the pot?

Well, whatever it is, you might want to explain things. Another feature to DU disruptor M.O. is the "hit-and-run" posting as you have seem to have done."

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I can understand why you guys would feel this way. I am not a DU'er on vacation and I suppose, I have stirred the pot to get other conservatives points of view on these ridiculous articles. Like this one:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1030409/posts

The one above is a classic re-write of history written a short 24 hours after the actual event.

I am relatively new to FreeRepublic and am a little gun shy to offer alot of running dialog as there are quite a few flamers on here and I have already been the recipient of a few blastings from people that take what I write the wrong way. I am not necessarily afraid of these people and have stood up for myself but I already have a strike against me by just being a newly reformed lurker.

Perhaps I should add more commentary to my posts, and when I am more comfortable with all of the personalities here I will. For now, I will try to post articles that invoke the kind of response and thought process that has been shown here.

Stand by, I will earn my honorary Freepers Degree in time.

[Yeti]

It's not as simple as some people think it is.

True.

So where is the research on men who are killed by their wives? I know it can't have escaped your attention that the stats for initiation of physical violence in a relationship are approximately equal for men and women.

So, when a study looks at situations where the women are victims exclusively, as opposed to all intimate partner murders, it shows that the study was motivated by the desire to defame men as a gender -- otherwise, they would have done both genders and compared, or both genders then women. Looking only at women victims showed the bias of this feminazi study before it was ever begun.

These "factoid"-type misandrist studies place a false burden of imaginary collective guilt on men and a false righteousness from imaginary collective victimization on women. That kind of social distortion only serves to skew people's perceptions of themselves and each other wrongly. Distorting people's perceptions and understanding is a way to trick people into making the wrong choices in life, not a way to help them make the right ones.

I am sorry for what happened to both of you, and I sympathize with you, but that doesn't give this little study a fraud-ectomy. With 6 billion people in the world, any study that looks at 22 selected cases of *anything* and then extrapolates to anything *in general* is phony and stupid.

[vetvetdoug]

Men are naturally better shots. I bet that is the reason for the disparity. My personal experience is that men were more at risk at being killed by women/spouses/wives than men murdering their significant other. Also, I have personally observed and experienced a significant disparity in the amount of punishment dealt out to men versus women; the women get significantly lighter sentences IMHO or they get off completely. That (the fact no crime was entered) may be the other parameter not evaluated by the study.

[PeteFromMontana]

Thank you for the advice, I will take it. It is tough to know what to do, I added a barf alert on one article only to be told by someone not to do that unless... and this is weird, unless I put a space between my parens? I have no idea what the guy was talking about but it did make me stop putting in running commentary.

Hang in there, I will get better. I am honestly trying pretty hard to post interesting articles, but perhaps I am posting too often. I will take stock of this in the next day or so.

Thanks again

Pete

[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

I'm not commenting on a study. I'm commenting on a remark someone made, suggesting that the issue of how women find themselves battered is a simple one with a simple solution. I disagree about that.

I am very pro-male, and I advocate the fair treatment of men in all situations, as I alluded to in my post. No one should be physically harmed in any relationship.

[Yeti]

Of 1,980 female victims, 1,778 were murdered by men.
Of 4,931 male victims, only 528 were murdered by women.

Intimate partners only, please. Otherwise it means only that guys do more drive-bys and killings related to theft, of which both men and women may be victims.

[mattdono]

I respect the response. That goes some ways to make me think you are some DU scum.

I can appreciate your being gun shy. I myself lurked for over 2 years before a officially became a member, so I am with you there.

You seem like a thoughtful person and if your commentary is conservative (or at least anti-liberal...[wink]), then your commentary is likely to be welcomed. I see in your posts that your son is serving, so that at least tells me that you if you love your son at all, you would probably like to choke H0w@rd De@n out if you had the chance. If that's the case, you can't be all that bad in my book.

I hope to see you out there.

[Sofa King]

Try adding 1-2 lines of commentary to your initial post hinting at what you think of the article. It'll go a long way toward showing that you're just putting something up for discussion rather than hit-and-running.

[vetvetdoug]

My first wife claimed that I was abusing her even though I had never touched her. In fact, I had scars where she had attacked me but when the divorce began the lawyers and she began a campaign to discredit me without any evidence or facts. Nevertheless, friends and acquaintances believed the lie and I was slandered like hell until the divorce was final. She also played a game of hell and her ultimate goal was to have me commit suicide (which we all know no one in their right mind does). When that didn't work she and her lawyer sued me for numerous insidious reasons. If I had not been warned by her relatives what was going on I would have probably been destroyed. I could write a book about how completely a spouse with a two year head-start can completely betray the other both financially and emotionally.

[Yeti]

Okay : )

I agree with you that is almost never really as simple as people make it sound, and I don't like to blame the victim of an abusive situation.

[PeteFromMontana]

"That goes some ways to make me think you are some DU scum"

_______________________

Listen, I am NOT DU scum.

[PeteFromMontana]

Thanks Sofa King, good advice well taken.

Pete

[ShadowDancer]

Don't worry about a few morons. There are many things I post (most actually) that I don't comment on right away. I like to let others make up their own minds. Do it the way you want.

[PeteFromMontana]

Thank you, I really do appreciate the feedback. I enjoy my time here and would like to make it as mutually beneficial as possible.

[Tuscaloosa Goldfinch]

You ol' softie! I told mine she couldn't date until she is 49!

Hey, that sounds even better!

When our older daughter got married, my husband made both her and her fiance write a 3 page essay about why they thought they were ready for marriage. He also made her fiance promise that he would never put her on a motorcycle (hubby has lost many friends in motorcycle accidents) and told him if he ever hurt our daughter there would be "consequences." :-0 Also, hubby told fiance that it was his job to protect our daughter, if they were ever even somewhere when just the language got bad, they needed to leave. Sounds old-fashioned, but he's an old-fashioned guy, and our relationship is 31 years old. He's really good at "marriage".