YAP DOGS OF WAR SNAP AT THEIR OWN

New York Post ^ | 11/29/03 | JOHN PODHORETZ

[kattracks]

November 29, 2003 -- THE president's stunning trip to Baghdad is already the subject of wild over-interpretation by the solipsists in the American chattering classes, who can't help but think the journey was really about them. Politically obsessed people are sure the trip was part of his reelection campaign, with Bush fans excited by and Bush opponents reeling in shock and awe from the public-relations coup.

[goldstategop]

The Democrats and the media can't stand for us to win in Iraq. Any good news there for America is bad news for them.

[freednumb]

BTTT!!! 8-)

[G.Mason]

"[Tom Rosenstiel], the highly respected director of the Project for Excellence in Journalism told Kurtz that the reporters on Air Force One violated a public trust because they didn't go public with news of the trip."

Violated a public trust?

Who's? The enemies?

No doubt whose side this lemon is on.

[lentulusgracchus]

Any good news there for America is bad news for them.

Boy, I'll say. No wonder they keep reaching for power, and for a monopoly in media. If they don't write all the epitaphs, their own is going to be uglier than the south end of a northbound donkey.

[lentulusgracchus]

Tom Rosenstiel, the highly respected director of the Project for Excellence in Journalism told Kurtz that the reporters on Air Force One violated a public trust because they didn't go public with news of the trip.

Yeah, they deprived the Ba'athist gunners and Al-Q'aeda rocketeers of a big chance to kill George Bush. Which Rosenstiel would love to write about, as an exercise in "excellence in journalism", the Liberal way.

[MEG33]

He is a fool and all the world knows it now.Rosentiel,should DDay have been revealed if the reporter knew?

War requires secrecy and lies and reporters should be barred from all secrets and trips if they must tell. Telling should be prosecutable.

[lentulusgracchus]

Well, I think he's just disappointed someone didn't blab and "break the story" (which is sacramental to those guys). I think he's also disappointed because things didn't turn out badly for Bush. If someone had blabbed, what would the headlines be right now, and wouldn't Hillary be standing tall, glowing about how she and that other senator went over there but the President cancelled his trip? That's what Rosenstool is upset about. Well, screw him.

[tbpiper]

John Edwards told The New York Times that the trip was "daring move and great politics."

When a leader is fundamentally a good man, he will do the right thing and often, it takes some daring to accomplish. 'Great politics' may be a seredipidous result, but ,unlike many vying for the job, it is not the prime motivator.

[Ragtime Cowgirl]

Memo to The New York Times: Want to know why people hate the press? Listen to the words of your own paper's bureau chief, who has succeeded here in elevating the self-absorption of the media to an entirely new level of absurdity.
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It was about the troops, ping!

[Cuttnhorse]

"[Tom Rosenstiel], the highly respected director of the Project for Excellence in Journalism told Kurtz that the reporters on Air Force One violated a public trust because they didn't go public with news of the trip."

I happened to catch Brian Wilson sitting in for Brit Hume on FOX, and on the panel segment he mentioned Rosentiel's comments. Brian asked the panel, "is Rosensttiel a moron for saying this?" Fred Barnes and Michael Barone cracked up.

[sticker]

Rosentiel wouldn't have wanted DDay revealed, it helped take pressure of Stalin. How many reporters were against aid to Britain until Hitler attacked the USSR. Always remember the majority of the media are anti-American, anti-freedom and pro-communist

[Radix]

...some buffoon in the press corps might actually agree with the sort of buffoonery peddled by Rosenstiel and thereby have made it impossible for the president to visit American troops in Baghdad.

That is exactly what this ahole would have done, and that is abundantly clear. The objective journalists cannot have the President doing a very good thing which might simultaneously give him a bounce in the public eye. These people would have caused that trip to be aborted in a heartbeat, and any simpleton should be able to recognize that as the truth.

[arasina]

Rosenstiel would rather something really bad happened because a reporter leaked info about the visit. You know, give 'em something they could really chew on and "cover". If he had any wisdom at all, he would know that the reporters who traveled with President Bush, by keeping the visit a secret, exemplify the excellence in journalism he supposedly espouses.

[Mo1]

It was about the troops.

It's about time somebody gets it

[Oldeconomybuyer]

...Tom Rosenstiel, the highly respected director of the Project for Excellence in Journalism told Kurtz that the reporters on Air Force One violated a public trust because they didn't go public with news of the trip...

Un friken' believable. There are higher ethical standards in the prostitution industry.

[MEG33]

The troops liked the trip and that's what matters.Had some joker squealed,the plane would turn around and deprive them of a personal thank you by the President and from us,too.

On Fox..Trucker just called in saying go to the truck stops and find out Bush is their President.Interviews on the NY street saying critics are left wing nuts.Call ins saying the critics abviously don't have anyone in the military.Ya Hoo!

[shiva]

reporters on Air Force One violated a public trust because they didn't go public with news of the trip.

Really? How can that be? The whole world knows about it.

[Valin]

Tom Rosenstiel, the highly respected director of the Project for Excellence in Journalism told Kurtz that the reporters on Air Force One violated a public trust because they didn't go public with news of the trip.

Reason #67,981 why used car salemen are held in higher esteem than "journalists".

[blackie]

It was about the troops ~ Bump!

[Harmless Teddy Bear]

Rosentiel,should DDay have been revealed if the reporter knew?

Oh probably in his mind. The funny thing was that there undoubtedly were reporters who knew and kept their mouths shut until they were given the ok to tell. Every time I post I see this little reminder, "Loose lips sink ships." They got the concept then.

Reporting in peace time will end at worse with some politician having egg on his face. Big deal! Careless reporting in war time can end up with people dying. The stakes are different so the rules are different.

[admiralsn]

Thus, in Rosenstiel's view, it would have been better had the soldiers in that tent at the Baghdad airport not been paid a visit by the president - because that's what "excellence in journalism" demands.

Apparently these whiners have focused entirely on the President and not on the troops. Show me one negative reaction- one negative comment made by a servicemember who was there. This WAS about the troops, plain and simple. President Bush knows that, we know that, and I suspect that privately, some of the 9 demwits begrudgingly know that as well. It is these whining media types who apparently still don't get it.

[MEG33]

I remember my aunt thought it was OK to tell her son was in the Navy but not to say he was on a submarine.She took that saying to heart!

Of course there were reporters who knew secrets in WW2.They knew which side they were on.

[MizSterious]

I'm trying to decide if Rosentiel preferred the trip be cancelled, or if he was hoping the plane would be brought down. Certainly, one or the other would have been the likely outcome if he'd had his way.

[admiralsn]

The troops liked the trip and that's what matters.Had some joker squealed,the plane would turn around and deprive them of a personal thank you by the President and from us,too.

I have to say I have a modicum of respect for those journalists on the plane for NOT blabbing anyway. Then again, if I were threatened with "We're gonna tell everyone in Iraq that it was YOU that couldn't keep quiet," I'd have had no trouble with the secret either.

[admiralsn]

She took that saying to heart!

Loose lips sink ships!

[admiralsn]

I'm trying to decide if Rosentiel preferred the trip be cancelled, or if he was hoping the plane would be brought down.

Well he certainly wouldn't have wanted it to be shot down. Then he'd have to mourn his fellow journalists killed in the attack.

[ladyjane]

I have to say I have a modicum of respect for those journalists on the plane for NOT blabbing anyway.

People who behave poorly 95% of the time elicit praise on the few occasions they behave appropriately. Not endangering the President and his staff is the very least they could do.

[tet68]

2004 bumper sticker.

It was about the troops, stupid!

[MEG33]

I like it.

[admiralsn]

Yes, I like it too! Think I'm gonna make it my new tag line.

[expatpat]

The US is an obstacle to Communists; the Islamists are anti-US; therefore, the Islamists are a friend of the communists.

[DUMBGRUNT]

Charter an old 707 from a French outfit. Paint the stars and stripes on the side, extra large.
Tell everyone Bush is back for Christmas.
ETA so the sun is just right for a photo shoot.
Mr. Rosentiel and all his pals can fill the plane...

Think he he would go?

[Husker8877]

"...Reason #67,981 why used car salemen are held in higher esteem than "journalists"...

And Used Car salesmen are now higher in the chain than residential mortgage lenders--the new standard-bearers of sleaze (Not ALL of them, mind you...)

[Mo1]

2004 bumper sticker.
It was about the troops, stupid!

I like it

But they still won't get it

[Mr. Silverback]

It wasn't about Bush. It was about the troops.

DEAD ON!!!

[sticker]

I know, it's like the bull in the Nashville paper talking about a "useful idiot" from here protesting at Ft. Benning last week. The School for the Americas helped train people that stopped the communists from taking over all of Latin America and the left cna not and will not forget that

[sticker]

cna=can

[Libertina]

Awesome article. And oddly enough, the Tacoma Tribune the day after had a very good article by one of the journalists lucky enough to go along. And the PI put it on the front page, important quotes actually in the first few paragraphs... LOL I thought h*ll had frozen over. :)