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1 posted on 11/29/2003 8:23:35 PM PST by doug from upland
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To: doug from upland
Hillary is living proof that someone had sex with a buffalo.
2 posted on 11/29/2003 8:27:26 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: doug from upland; JoeSixPack1

Joe told me to relate that he loves ewe.

<|:)~

3 posted on 11/29/2003 8:31:29 PM PST by martin_fierro (_____oooo_(____)_oooo_____)
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To: doug from upland
Could not have said it better myself. Be prepared to be bombarded (Attacked) by those that say that your arguments are ridiculous. If they succeed in silencing, or marginalizing your argument, then after the dust clears, and Homosexual marrige is offically accepted, then I guarantee you that the fringe element will push, just as you describe, for the very type of perverted unions stated in your post.
4 posted on 11/29/2003 8:31:45 PM PST by OldFashionedAmerican
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To: doug from upland
The author is okay until he gets to the part about most homosexuals being born that way and they didn't choose to be how they were. We all make choices. Maybe some have a hard time with attractions - but what married man or woman hasn't had an attraction to someone other than their spouse? And how many fought that attraction, or ignored it, and didn't ruin their marriage with adultery?

Most experts who are not shills for the gay lobby say that early childhood difficulty of one kind or another - bad or absent parent(s), early sex abuse - cause same sex attraction disorder. And many have left the homosexual "lifestyle" - either living in celibacy or even becoming attracted to the opposite sex.

5 posted on 11/29/2003 8:34:24 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: doug from upland
Maybe AlGore will be able to marry a tree.
6 posted on 11/29/2003 8:36:20 PM PST by mtg
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To: doug from upland
Not sure what Ayatollah Khomeini would make of this. See, it would be a dilemma because even though this reveared scholar of Islam was not fond of homosexuality, he apparently thought sex with animals was fine.
9 posted on 11/29/2003 8:43:46 PM PST by USF
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To: doug from upland
All this insanity is really just an attack on religion, particularly Christianity. The State is flexing its moral-less muscles over religion, in a thinly veiled expression of superiority.

When you boil Communism down to its core, it is nothing more or less than institutionalized atheism; a government system that abolishes or subjugates religion to secular authority. Then the strong rule, and those who are not strong are subjugated to the few. This is where we are heading if people continue to do nothing about these relentless attacks on Christianity. It is becoming a juggernaut and one day will be unstoppable if Christians remain complacent.

18 posted on 11/29/2003 9:17:16 PM PST by TheCrusader
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To: doug from upland
I think you said some of the things that Scalia thought, but dared not say so bluntly. If you could find an e-mail address, I think he might appreciate this. Who knows, maybe he has seen it lurking. ;-)

(I have no idea if he does.)

21 posted on 11/29/2003 9:30:34 PM PST by StriperSniper (The "mainstream" media is a left bank oxbow lake.)
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To: doug from upland
Those in the radical homosexual movement are outraged when we ask --- If a man can marry another man, why can't he marry a goat?
Gee, I can't imagine why anyone would be annoyed with that. First, it's not a serious question, or at any rate, not one a serious person would ask.

But the answer is: animals are incapable of forming intent and giving consent to enter a contractual type of relationship such as marriage. It does matter. In order to have rights (such as the right to contract), you must be able to make and keep agreements. Goats and other animals are incapable of so doing.

Your hysterical blither notwithstanding, the definition of "humanity" would have to be broadened considerably before "goat" would be included in the category. To bring this crap up only muddies the waters in an already-FUBAR situation.

If you want to fight gay marriage, here's a thought: try thinking of, you know, intelligent reasons it shouldn't be legal. There are at least a few. Otherwise, you're just one more set of gums flapping in the wind.

Snidely

22 posted on 11/29/2003 9:34:38 PM PST by Snidely Whiplash
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Doug, I do think the barnyard animal bit goes a bit too far to be considered in serious conversation. I think the point you're making can be better illustrated by citing marriage between father and daughter, mother and son, sister and brother, first cousins and etc.
Like marriage between a man and a woman, these taboos have been handed down over the course of human history. While these may be mentioned in the bible, I think the wisdom behind these simple rules predate the bible. Common sense and learned acceptable human behavior in choosing a mate had to exist and be practiced by the same unknown people who first domesticated dogs, sheep, and cows. Ancient societies understood inter-breeding and didn't make up silly rules that each and every society followed in turn because they made no sense.
I agree that the current push towards gay marriage and acceptance is being forced upon a society that is almost willing to go along just to end a debate they'd rather not think about.
I can see a place for state recognition of a legal union for gays, but I can't see it being called marriage.
26 posted on 11/29/2003 9:40:36 PM PST by WhoisAlanGreenspan?
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To: doug from upland
well! < /false offended tone >
I remember that mentioning a need for "BAD days" to those darling people who pushed "GLAD days" down our throats at coll. was not pleasing to those same darling people... at all.
38 posted on 11/29/2003 10:23:43 PM PST by King Prout (...he took a face from the ancient gallery, then he... walked on down the hall....)
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To: doug from upland
KEYWORDS: BAAAAAAA; BOWWOW; HEHAW; HOMOSEXUALAGENDA; HOMOSEXUALVICE; MARRIAGE; MEOW; MOOOOOOOO; OINK; PERVERSION; QUACK; SAMESEX;

ROFLMAO

43 posted on 11/29/2003 11:01:47 PM PST by Diddley (Free Republic: An aboveground forum.)
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To: doug from upland
Quote of the Day by MissAmericanPie
47 posted on 11/30/2003 12:34:41 AM PST by RJayneJ
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To: doug from upland
"What next?"

Here's the real problem in my mind. With the lowering of the age of control, i.e., girls receiving birth control, or abortions at 14 years without the knowledge of the parent or even the legality of being present at the act, then the law is lowering the legal age of consent to achowledging the legitimacy of man/boy woman/girl unions. And since the New Hampshire State Supreme Court has established a presidence that same sex unions are not sexual, then that opens the door to any possible union, period. So, any pediaphyle just got carte blanc, and the law protects them.

"I accept that most homosexuals, particularly males, are born the way they are. It is not their fault or their choice. Something has gone wrong which prevents them from being able to be attracted to the opposite sex. At times, it must be incredibly difficult for them. Who would choose that path in life?"

I do not accept that homosexual behavior is not a learned behavior, just like how you tie a tie, or lace your shoes. There is no proof scientifically, only guesses. The only difference is that the act of consumation of it is based upon physical sexual completion, that has been defined as pleasure, not for reproduction. It is their choice, so that's who chooses that life. They are quite happy in it, otherwise they would change.

Red

52 posted on 11/30/2003 8:35:55 AM PST by Redwood71
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To: doug from upland
Succint, no fluff, to the point, and as well said as I've ever read on the subject... very good job...

Why! indeed....

57 posted on 11/30/2003 11:46:23 AM PST by hosepipe
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To: doug from upland
I accept that most homosexuals, particularly males, are born the way they are.

If the gay movement is correct that being gay is genetic, then they face a future crisis about a generation from now. The causes of all genetic conditions are currently being sorted out. Finding the genetic cause, if there is one, could occur in the next decade. Once the cause is found a genetic test becomes possible. Initially there wouldn't be much reason to use the test. Becoming gay or straight is inevitable so just live with it, right? However many other genetic conditions aren't being accepted as inevitable. Those affected want science to provide genetic treatments. Such science is just now beginning, but everyone agrees gene therapy is an engineering problem that will be solved. If we are to believe the gay movement most of their members spend their early years under the custody of a pair of flaming homophobes, their parents. If those parents could test their budding grandchild factory for gay genes and 'fix' such what would be the effect the population of gay adults? Either the gays should hope their status is a non-genetic choice and plan to defend the validity of that choice or they are going to need an Endangered Gender Act to prohibit testing and therapy for gay genes. Anyone care to bet against the power of the black (free) market in the latter case?

62 posted on 11/30/2003 1:51:57 PM PST by JohnBovenmyer (I)
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