Posted on 12/01/2003 5:18:27 AM PST by yankeedame
Monday, December 1, 2003
Man dies after brawl with city police officers
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By Brenna R. Kelly The Cincinnati Enquirer
A 41-year-old man died after a violent struggle Sunday morning with Cincinnati police officers outside a North Avondale fast-food restaurant.
The fight, which included the nearly 400-pound man hitting officers and police repeatedly striking him with nightsticks, was caught on tape from a camera in an officer's patrol car.

Nathaniel Jones, from 1998 police booking photo. (AP photo)
Within minutes of the struggle ending, Nathaniel Jones was dead.
The six officers involved were placed on administrative leave while several agencies, including police homicide and internal affairs units, the Citizen Complaint Authority and the Hamilton County Coroner's Office investigate.
Assistant Police Chief Richard Janke said the police video shows that the officers followed their training and were justified in using force to subdue Jones.
But Roger Webster, Fraternal Order of Police president, said that after the incident the officers were treated like suspects. He said they were questioned for hours, read their legal rights and only allowed one phone call.
"My question to the police administration is, what criminal act are you investigating? You are accusing these cops of being criminals," Webster said angrily outside police headquarters. "That is why they don't want to work, because they are treated worse than the criminals they arrest."
In June, the Citizen Complaint Authority cleared a police officer of any wrongdoing in the Feb. 9 shooting death of a burglary suspect in Northside.
Of the officers involved Sunday, authorities identified the two who responded first: Baron Osterman, who has one year on the force, and James Pike, a seven-year veteran.
Police officials, radio transmissions and the video give a picture of how the circumstances unfolded at the White Castle at 64 W. Mitchell Ave., just west of Vine Street.
About 5:50 a.m. a White Castle employee called 911 to report that a man had passed out in the grass outside the restaurant.
"He's breathing, but he keeps hollering 19," she told the call taker.
When emergency medical personnel arrived, Jones was awake and "becoming a nuisance" at the restaurant, according to a tape of radio transmissions in which firefighters ask police to respond.
In the video, Jones walks toward an officer, who yells, "Stay back."
Jones then lunged, swinging at the officer's head before he stumbled into the officer, taking him down.
The two officers, Osterman and Pike, jabbed Jones in the torso with nightsticks as they repeatedly yelled, "Put your hands behind your back."
But Jones continued to fight, flailing his arms and grabbing one of the police batons. The officers called for backup, asking especially for someone with a stun gun. Eventually, six officers responded, many of them also using their batons to strike Jones. After a struggle with all six, they got Jones on his stomach and his arms behind his back.
The officers turned Jones over after he was handcuffed over and realized he needed medical help, Janke said.
"He looked to be in enough distress that the officers immediately called for a fire company," Janke said.
Jones had a pulse when EMS arrived, but he died within minutes of arriving at University Hospital, Janke said.
Why Jones behaved as he did is not yet known, Janke said.
During the struggle, officers tried to call for an officer trained to deal with people with mental health problems, but the officer was on another call.
Police did not use a stun gun, but did use chemical spray in addition to the batons. Janke did not know how many of the officers hit Jones.
Police estimate that Jones, who was 5 foot 6 inches tall, weighed 400 pounds. They did not release a current address for Jones.
According to court records, Jones pleaded guilty in 1998 to possessing cocaine and was given three years probation, which included inpatient treatment at Talbert House. A month after his sentencing, Jones violated his probation and was sentenced to a year in jail, records show.
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Notice the race of the newly deceased
Note the fact that, once again, the police are the eye of the storm.
"I neither approve or blame. I merely relate."- Voltaire
I knew Louis Farrakhan was to blame.
C'mon - it's so simple. I can't believe you don't get it...
FARRAKHAN: Abraham Lincoln, when he saw this great divide, he pondered a solution of separation. Abraham Lincoln said he never was in favor of our being jurors or having equal status with the Whites of this nation. Abraham Lincoln said that if there were to be a superior or inferior, he would rather the superior position be assigned to the White race. There, in the middle of this mall is the Washington Monument, 555 feet high. But if we put a one in front of that 555 feet, we get 1555, the year that our first fathers landed on the shores of Jamestown, Virginia as slaves.In the background is the Jefferson and Lincoln Memorial, each one of these monuments is 19 feet high.
Abraham Lincoln, the sixteenth president. Thomas Jefferson, the third president, and 16 and three make 19 again. What is so deep about this number 19? Why are we standing on the Capitol steps today? That number 19 -- when you have a nine you have a womb that is pregnant. And when you have a one standing by the nine, it means that there's something secret that has to be unfolded.
.......
FARRAKHAN: The first four letters of the word form the foundation; "a-t-o-n". . . "a-ton", "a-ton". Since this obelisk in front of us is representative of Egypt. In the 18th dynasty, a Pharaoh named Akhenaton, was the first man of this history period to destroy the pantheon of many gods and bring the people to the worship of one god. And that one god was symboled by a sun disk with 19 rays coming out of that sun with hands holding the Egyptian Ankh - the cross of life. A-ton. The name for the one god in ancient Egypt. A- ton, the one god. 19 rays. Look at your scripture.A woman, remember the nine, means somebody pregnant, with an idea. But, in this case, its a woman pregnant with a male child destined to rule the nations with a rod of iron. God is standing over her womb, and this child will be like the day sun, and he will say "I am the light of the world." Hands coming out of that sun, come unto me all ye that are heavy laden. I'm gonna give you rest, but I'm gonna give you life, because I am the resurrection and the life and if you believe in me, though you are dead, yet shall you live again.
You're dead, Black man. But if you believe in the god who created this sun of truth and of light with 19 rays, meaning he's pregnant with God's spirit, God's life, God's wisdom. Abraham Lincoln's statue, 19 feet high, 19 feet wide. Jefferson, 19 feet high, 16 (OFF-MIKE) and the third president, 19. Standing on the steps of the Capitol, in the light of the sun. Offering life to a people who are dead.
Black man, the a-ton represents the one God. In the Koran, Muhammad is called a light giving son. So if you look at the aton, add an "e" to it, and separate the "a" from the next four letters and you get the word a tone.
Atone means sound. And "a", the first letter of the alphabet and the first letter of the numerical system is one. So "a" equals one. So "a" sound means when you hear the "a" tone, you will hear the right sound. And when you hear the right sound from the one God calling you to divine life, you will respond. So what is the "a" tone? In music, a equals 440 vibrations. How long have we been in America? Four hundred and forty years.
Well, in the 440th year, from the one God, the aton will come the a tone and all of us got to tune up our lives by the sound of the a tone. Because we've got to atone for all that we have done wrong. And when you atone, if you take the "t" and couple it with the "a" and hyphenate it, you get at one. So when you atone you become at one. At one with who? The aton or the one God. Because you heard the a tone and you tuned up your life and now you're ready to make a new beginning.
So when you get at one, you get the next two letters. It is "m" "e". Me. Who is it that has to atone?
(AUDIENCE): Me.
FARRAKHAN: Who went wrong?
(AUDIENCE): Me.
FARRAKHAN: Who got to fix it?
(AUDIENCE): Me.
FARRAKHAN: Who should we look to?
(AUDIENCE): Me.
FARRAKHAN: Yes! And then if you add, if you add another letter to "me" you get an "n". What does that say?
(AUDIENCE): Men.
FARRAKHAN: So Farrakhan called men. Why did you call men? Because in the beginning, God made man. And if we are at a new beginning, we got to make a man all over again, but make him in the image and the likeness of God.
Simple, right? ;)
Alas, you may be right: The weather today is supposed to be 45, clear and sunny.
Way to cold.
It has to be warm for that.
Another cup of coffee should help too.
I think I might need to dig out the 30 cup coffee maker to understand that.
I pray things stay calm, I have to drive in that area 3 times a week.
Yeah. She was from Chicago. Rita X, I believe.
She was a riot for a few years, but the last time she called she was just pathetic. Maybe the government's mind beams had destroyed her brain cells.
Overweight people are going to riot in support?
Please take me along when you climb on down.....
You misunderstood my comments, when I compare Cincinnati with Johannesberg, I am not referring to police brutality, but to the rampant black-on-black and black-on-white crime. It is a urban jungle of savages.
My guess is that he had a reaction to the spray and died of asphyxiation.
Too many mentally ill running loose.
Well, when Teddy says "Slim, you gotta slow down..." You know it's time for a change.
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