Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

GOP Defends Army Officer
NewsMax.com ^ | Monday, Dec. 1, 2003 | Jon E. Dougherty

Posted on 12/01/2003 5:40:49 AM PST by GigaDittos

Republican lawmakers are standing behind a lieutenant colonel who has been threatened by the Army with early retirement or criminal prosecution for his use of an unconventional interrogation technique. In a letter to acting Army Secretary Les Brownlee, Reps. Duncan Hunter, R-Calif., and John H. McHugh, R-N.Y., said they were "highly disturbed" the Pentagon was considering leveling criminal charges against Army Lt. Col. Allan West, Copley News Service reported.

The Army is considering charging West, an artillery unit commander, with aggravated assault, under the Uniform Code of Military Justice, for his dramatic interrogation technique against an Iraqi policeman suspected of having ties to Saddam loyalist guerillas.

In an effort to produce faster results because of intelligence his unit was targeted for attack, West took charge of the interrogation of the Iraqi in the town of Saba al Boor, near Tikrit, Aug. 21. Warning subordinates the interrogation "could get ugly," he threatened to kill the Iraqi if he didn't talk, then fired his sidearm into the ground near the Iraqi's head.

The Iraqi policeman then began providing details of an impending attack upon American troops. The information also led to a series of arrests of Saddam loyalists.

West, who immediately reported the incident to his superiors, said he was the target of an assassination plot, and that soldiers in his unit had been attacked by guerillas linked to the policeman.

"I did not want to expose my soldiers to a possible attack," he told The Washington Times in an e-mail.

Hunter – chairman of the House Armed Services Committee – and McHugh, a member of the committee, said West's actions "were necessary to protect the lives and safety of his men."

Not Criminal

"To us, such actions if accurately reported do not appear to be those of a criminal," said the letter. The lawmakers asked Brownlee to " expeditiously provide us" details which led the unit's commanding general to begin a criminal investigation of West.

The lawmakers requested Brownlee "closely examine this matter and provide us with your assessment of facts and circumstances."

West has also garnered support from Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman John Warner, R-Va., and Sen. James Inhofe, R-Okla., a member of the committee.

Supporters say the tactic, while unconventional, likely saved the lives of American troops. But military officials believe West violated the Uniform Code of Military Justice, and are considering charging him with aggravated assault.

Article 128 of the code states: "[Any military personnel] who attempts or offers with unlawful force or violence to do...harm to another person, whether or not the attempt or offer is consummated, is guilty of assault and shall be punished as a court-martial may direct."

In his e-mail to the Times, West said he fired his 9 mm pistol twice, once "into the weapons clearing barrel outside the facility alone, and the next time I did it while having his head close to the barrel."

"I stood in between the firing and his person. I admit that what I did was not right, but it was done with the concern of the safety of my soldiers and myself," he wrote.

The Army has given West a choice, however – resign early and lose retirement benefits, or face charges which could range in penalties from no punishment to eight years in prison.

Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld has said he has the authority to intervene on West's behalf, but has so far refused. Retired Marine Lt. Col. Neal A. Puckett, West's attorney, has rejected an offer from the 4th Infantry Division's staff judge advocate for his client to resign and lose his benefits.

Puckett and West are currently at a forward base near Tikrit awaiting the results of an ongoing investigation.

At a preliminary hearing in Tikrit last week, West testified he also allowed two U.S. soldiers to beat the Iraqi policeman prior to firing his weapon because the Iraqi refused to provide information on the attack.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: alanwest; allenwest; bravery; colonelalanwest; colonelwest; courtmartial; ltcolallanwest; warcrimes; westforcongress; wildwildwest
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 141 next last
To: verity
"Only a thanksgiving turkey can be pardoned without first having been found guilty."

You forgot about President Nixon. Also known as "Precedent Nixon."

21 posted on 12/01/2003 6:42:27 AM PST by cookcounty
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: GigaDittos
"At a preliminary hearing in Tikrit last week, West testified he also allowed two U.S. soldiers to beat the Iraqi policeman prior to firing his weapon because the Iraqi refused to provide information on the attack"

He's a goner, if this report is accurate.

22 posted on 12/01/2003 6:44:40 AM PST by cookcounty
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Calpernia
Ping.
23 posted on 12/01/2003 6:47:44 AM PST by MattinNJ (If someone says happy holidays to me, I say Merry Christmas to them.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Fawnn
"His methods don't sound "unconventional" to me; they sound "effective"!"

Extra-ordinary warfare demands extra-ordinary counter-measures. When dealing with kamikazes, there is only one rule: Do whatever it takes to survive.

24 posted on 12/01/2003 6:48:41 AM PST by Eastbound
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Eastbound
Thus spake Calley at My Lai!
25 posted on 12/01/2003 6:52:34 AM PST by basque69
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: ClintonBeGone; Ispy4u; Poohbah
I'm sure it does, but maybe not in detail. What the UCMJ would do is say it's a violation to disobey a direct order

So we can assume that in this case there is some kind of directive from West's superiors in the ROE that covers the details of extracting information from a captive.

Could we also assume that this directive (if it exists) covers the extenuating circumstance in West's case, ie that his troops were in imminent danger?

26 posted on 12/01/2003 6:58:41 AM PST by evad (Most politicians lie, cheat and steal. It's all they know to do and they won't stop...EVER!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: ClintonBeGone
Remember some of the quotes from our great WW II commanders..i.e..."Kill Japs..more Japs"..and "the "japanese language will be spoken only in Hell"..( paraphrasing from memory, sorry)..well today, if a US officer said the same thing using Muslim extremists, etc..he'd be Court martialed....go figure..
27 posted on 12/01/2003 6:58:41 AM PST by ken5050
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: evad
admitting he what he did 'was not right.

Col. West seems to have finally remembered why he wears the Uniform. This is the first I have heard of him regaining military bearing since this incident came to light. Had he made his admission on the first day, BEFORE his troops turned him in, he might be in a much better position today. Instead he and his lawyer made sure that the matter would be a public one. What he did was WRONG, and I wish he had said so sooner, instead of wrapping himself in the flag, claiming to have saved lives that no one seems able to prove were at risk.

28 posted on 12/01/2003 6:59:30 AM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: cookcounty
It is accurate, yet still incomplete.
29 posted on 12/01/2003 7:00:38 AM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: evad
The rules of prisoner handling in the GWOT are that all detainees and captured nationals are to be treated as POWs until their status is determined by the appropriate authority. That authority being the SJA or JAG and MP/CID investigators.

You can make every claim in the book that what LTC West did was OK but just like everyone else in a US uniform, the treatment of POWs is a non compromising order.

So short answer, yes he disobeyed a lawful order known to him and his subordinates regarding the treatment and handling of detainees and POWs.
30 posted on 12/01/2003 7:03:47 AM PST by Ispy4u
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: MoJo2001; B4Ranch; grizzfan; Flurry; MeeknMing; GladesGuru; ZULU; montag813; blackie; ...
Lt. Col. West Ping. I have some more emails from him I will forward after I get my morning mail out.
31 posted on 12/01/2003 7:04:41 AM PST by Calpernia (Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: GigaDittos
Muslims are warriors...they arent bound by the leftist version of 'civilized warfare' (the kind where we use PC to destroy ourselves vs the enemy)

If firing a pistol "near" a terrorist who is involved in the ambushing of our troops is considered "unlawfull" then we had better change the freaking laws ASAP because as tools they are useless...they should apply to intra service violations but never the enemy...

And if you are going to punish Col West for this very minor means of extracting information...then you had better go back and try a million soldiers from Valley Forge to Vietnam for worse...and if doing what is harsh to the enemy to save our lives is wrong..
I dont wanna be right...

I have had the unsavory duty of working with field interogators once or twice...what Col. West did was minor...bush league...

To go after him will make every commander in the theater fear for his or her career and think twice about harming the enemy or taking the inititive without constant consulting higher higher
imo this will turn our fighting force into a micro managed disaster...of "leaders" who worry about their own tocuses more then the welfare of their troopies....
32 posted on 12/01/2003 7:07:22 AM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Pukin Dog
Had he made his admission on the first day, BEFORE his troops turned him in,

As I have heard it, he "turned himself in" by writing a report on the incident and passing it up the chain of command.

33 posted on 12/01/2003 7:08:11 AM PST by jackbill
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: MattinNJ
Thanks for the ping.
34 posted on 12/01/2003 7:08:52 AM PST by Calpernia (Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: Calpernia
Thanks for the ping!
35 posted on 12/01/2003 7:10:22 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: Calpernia
Okay thanks for the ping.
36 posted on 12/01/2003 7:14:05 AM PST by Soaring Feather
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: verity
I think this is a good case for a presidential pardon

Only a thanksgiving turkey can be pardoned without first having been found guilty.

Actually, LTC West can be summoned to testify before congress, and may be granrted full immunity from prosecution if he believes his truthful testimony could be used against him in court or courts-martial.

And that possibility is under consideration by several congressmen.

-archy-/-

37 posted on 12/01/2003 7:18:28 AM PST by archy (Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: basque69
Yes, war is hell.
38 posted on 12/01/2003 7:19:48 AM PST by Eastbound
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: ken5050
Remember some of the quotes from our great WW II commanders..i.e..."Kill Japs..more Japs"..and "the "japanese language will be spoken only in Hell"..( paraphrasing from memory, sorry)..well today, if a US officer said the same thing using Muslim extremists, etc..he'd be Court martialed....go figure..

Back then, there weren't very many Americans, including political leaders and some in the military, hoping the US military forces in Iraq would be defeated and discredited so that their careers would prosper.

-archy-/-

39 posted on 12/01/2003 7:22:45 AM PST by archy (Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: Pukin Dog
Some interesting claims you made there Dog..
I'm personally not sure that he was 'turned in' or that his claims of troops in danger is unfounded. If you have actual source proof to the contrary I'd like to see it.

From what I know he passes my test for doing the right thing. Of course, I don't know everything and that's why we're having this discussion on this forum.

I am interested in what the actual 'law' says regarding this case because in the end, it isn't going to matter what you or I think...his case is going to be won or lost in two forums. One is the forum of public opinion where I think he will do well. The other is the legal forum which I'm not at all sure of.

40 posted on 12/01/2003 7:32:13 AM PST by evad (Most politicians lie, cheat and steal. It's all they know to do and they won't stop...EVER!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 141 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson