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Live Thread: Showtime's Reagan Movie Panel Discussion Simulcast on C-SPAN
C-SPAN/ Showtime ^ | Monday, December 1, 2003 | Kristinn

Posted on 12/01/2003 6:03:11 PM PST by kristinn

Live now at 9 p.m. EST. Hosted by Frank Sesno.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: California; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: barbrastreisand; boycott; boycottviacom; brabrastreisand; bs; cbs; dirtypolitics; fakereagan; mediabias; propaganda; reaganbashing; seebs; showtime; smearcampaign; thereagans; trashtv; viacom; viacommie
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1 posted on 12/01/2003 6:03:11 PM PST by kristinn
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To: All; Lazamataz
Link to Lazamataz's live thread on the movie itself.
2 posted on 12/01/2003 6:05:38 PM PST by kristinn
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To: kristinn
Linda Chavez is on the panel. Yay!

-Regards, T.
3 posted on 12/01/2003 6:07:15 PM PST by T Lady (Who Let the 'RATS Out?!!)
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To: All
Opened with clips from the movie. Panel: Martin Anderson, Marvin Kalb, Carl Anthony, Hillary Rosen, Lou Cannon, Linda Chavez.
4 posted on 12/01/2003 6:07:25 PM PST by kristinn
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To: All
Marvin Kalb: Tone of movie "insensitive and hostile."
5 posted on 12/01/2003 6:09:28 PM PST by kristinn
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To: kristinn
I didn't watch the movie but I happened upon the start of the C-Span discussion as they were showing some clips from the movie.

The 1-2 minutes they showed made my blood boil.

Have a jellybean.......wtf?

6 posted on 12/01/2003 6:09:30 PM PST by hole_n_one
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To: kristinn
Marvin Kalb said this is no "Casablaca"; he also said it is insensitive.

-Regards, T.
7 posted on 12/01/2003 6:09:48 PM PST by T Lady (Who Let the 'RATS Out?!!)
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To: kristinn
This clip makes it seem it was pure smarmyness that put him where he is.
8 posted on 12/01/2003 6:11:21 PM PST by hoagy62 (I'm pullin' for ya...we're all in this together.")
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To: hole_n_one
I watched it last night. It sucked.

Now showing clip of schemers plotting to get Reagan to run for governor.

9 posted on 12/01/2003 6:11:57 PM PST by kristinn
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To: kristinn
Hillary Rosen-Human Rights Campaign. That should tell you something...and not something good, either. Lou Cannon just said a cartoon couldn't get this bad.

-Regards, T.
10 posted on 12/01/2003 6:12:50 PM PST by T Lady (Who Let the 'RATS Out?!!)
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To: T Lady
Good for Kalb. Lou Cannon trashing the just played clip on the schemers. Says the facts were available to anyone who looked for them, the people who made the movie didn't want to.
11 posted on 12/01/2003 6:13:25 PM PST by kristinn
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To: T Lady
BACKPEDAL, Anthony, BACKPEDAL!!!!
12 posted on 12/01/2003 6:14:28 PM PST by hoagy62 (I'm pullin' for ya...we're all in this together.")
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To: hoagy62
Martin Anderson calls film "a hate movie" after quoting W. Post TV critic Tom Shales' review trashing the movie.
13 posted on 12/01/2003 6:14:50 PM PST by kristinn
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To: kristinn
ah, co-producer is on the panel
14 posted on 12/01/2003 6:15:06 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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To: kristinn
Thanks kristinn. The panelists are destroying this movie. I love it.
15 posted on 12/01/2003 6:15:44 PM PST by Lazamataz (PROUDLY POSTING WITHOUT READING THE ARTICLE SINCE 1999 !)
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To: hoagy62
He can't backpedal fast enough. Linda Chavez joins in defending Reagan from portrayal as a puppet.

Hillary Rosen defending Al Gore (???)

16 posted on 12/01/2003 6:16:20 PM PST by kristinn
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To: kristinn
Carl Anthony just said he wished he had given more commentary to it...Linda Chavez just nailed it, saying this was a Hollywood Left fantasy...Hillary Rosen just said no one really knew the 'real' Al Gore, basically justifying the smear job Striesand & Co. did on this movie.

-Regards, T.
17 posted on 12/01/2003 6:16:59 PM PST by T Lady (Who Let the 'RATS Out?!!)
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To: Texas_Jarhead
Note that Carl Anthony would NOT answer the question pertaining to whether this was a hate-movie about Reagan. He tried to turn the subject. This is a SURE sign that it was DESIGNED to hurt him!
18 posted on 12/01/2003 6:17:08 PM PST by hoagy62 (I'm pullin' for ya...we're all in this together.")
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To: kristinn
Is Sesno still with CNN?
19 posted on 12/01/2003 6:17:44 PM PST by hole_n_one
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To: kristinn
I know. WHat was her point? We had 8 years to get to know Gore. WHy was she talking about the election?
20 posted on 12/01/2003 6:17:57 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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To: Lazamataz
It's a slaughter. Carl Anthony will need a whole week at the 'spa' to get over this.
21 posted on 12/01/2003 6:18:04 PM PST by kristinn
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To: hole_n_one
I don't think so.
22 posted on 12/01/2003 6:18:59 PM PST by kristinn
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To: kristinn
All I can say, from watching a 30 second clip of the movie, those bastards in hollywood can kiss my ass.
23 posted on 12/01/2003 6:19:51 PM PST by Freedom4US
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To: kristinn
H&C on the FNC has a segment on this travesty of a film on the next segment after a commercial break.
24 posted on 12/01/2003 6:19:56 PM PST by hole_n_one
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To: hoagy62
Now they're playing the clip where Nancy's being a co-president. I'll bet dollars to donuts Ronald and Nancy never had such a conversation.

-Regards, T.
25 posted on 12/01/2003 6:20:19 PM PST by T Lady (Who Let the 'RATS Out?!!)
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To: kristinn
I think I called this yesterday.

A request.

If Sean Hannity or Rush or anyone who has contact with Nancy Reagan is here browsing this thread as a lurker, could you please send this thread to Nancy to let her know that we're all praying for her to have the strength to endure not only this, but the press coverage of it in the aftermath.

Thank you.

I hate being right..

26 posted on 12/01/2003 6:20:30 PM PST by RandallFlagg ("There are worse things than crucifixion...There are teeth.")
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To: kristinn
They are disassembling this movie piece by piece. Historians are knocking each point down. "I think the Historical meeting -- not this fantasy -- was much more interesting. The facts are more interesting."
27 posted on 12/01/2003 6:21:37 PM PST by Lazamataz (PROUDLY POSTING WITHOUT READING THE ARTICLE SINCE 1999 !)
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To: All
Another clip. Chavez says scene yet again shows Reagan as a puppet (to Nancy.)
28 posted on 12/01/2003 6:21:54 PM PST by kristinn
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To: kristinn
Carl Anthony will need a whole week at the 'spa' to get over this.


Not that there's anything wrong with that

29 posted on 12/01/2003 6:22:10 PM PST by hole_n_one
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To: kristinn
and she's spot on
30 posted on 12/01/2003 6:22:37 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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To: T Lady
Carl Anthony is a weenie.

He's the sort of kid I used to have in a headlock in the playground.

31 posted on 12/01/2003 6:22:55 PM PST by Lazamataz (PROUDLY POSTING WITHOUT READING THE ARTICLE SINCE 1999 !)
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To: kristinn
Carl Anthony just disavowed the scene that was shown to be false by historians.

Boy, I bet he wishes he was on Barbra Striesand's lap right now.

32 posted on 12/01/2003 6:24:24 PM PST by Lazamataz (PROUDLY POSTING WITHOUT READING THE ARTICLE SINCE 1999 !)
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To: Lazamataz
Carl Anthony just disowned the scene just played. Then he tries to use Shakespeare's dramatization of English kings as an excuse.
33 posted on 12/01/2003 6:24:29 PM PST by kristinn
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To: Freedom4US
Sesno just put Carl Anthony on the spot about the last clip shown...good job! All Rosen can do is make snide remarks about Arnold.

-Regards, T.
34 posted on 12/01/2003 6:24:47 PM PST by T Lady (Who Let the 'RATS Out?!!)
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To: kristinn
HRC board member? Why the hell do I want to here from this lady on this topic?
35 posted on 12/01/2003 6:25:36 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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To: kristinn
Oh L-rd. Who's the chick in blue who claimed that Nancy was ELEVATED by this 70% of-the-time Hit Piece on Nancy?
36 posted on 12/01/2003 6:25:44 PM PST by Lazamataz (PROUDLY POSTING WITHOUT READING THE ARTICLE SINCE 1999 !)
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To: Lazamataz
LOL!

-Regards, T.
37 posted on 12/01/2003 6:25:48 PM PST by T Lady (Who Let the 'RATS Out?!!)
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To: Texas_Jarhead
here = hear
38 posted on 12/01/2003 6:26:40 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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To: kristinn
I have taken a personal interest in seriously embarrassing Barbra Streisand, who's fingers are all over this. I want to see her completely politically destroyed.

I'm not sure how I will accomplish this.

But I will.

39 posted on 12/01/2003 6:26:41 PM PST by Lazamataz (PROUDLY POSTING WITHOUT READING THE ARTICLE SINCE 1999 !)
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To: Lazamataz
That's none other than Hillary Rosen, member of the Creative Coalition and the Human (Gay) Rights Campaign.

-Regards, T.
40 posted on 12/01/2003 6:27:04 PM PST by T Lady (Who Let the 'RATS Out?!!)
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Lou Cannon: "I know Ronald Reagan, this is not Ronald Reagan. I know Nancy Reagan, this is not Nancy Reagan."

Cannon criticizing about Iran-Contra origin depicted in film.

41 posted on 12/01/2003 6:28:03 PM PST by kristinn
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To: kristinn
I love Martin. This guy is slaughtering these leftist bastards.
42 posted on 12/01/2003 6:28:12 PM PST by Lazamataz (PROUDLY POSTING WITHOUT READING THE ARTICLE SINCE 1999 !)
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To: Lazamataz
Any help I can contribute in destroying Barbra Streisand, count me in.

One of the things we should think about is making her style of music un-cool. If we had gay conservatives who would mock her, so much the better!

43 posted on 12/01/2003 6:29:31 PM PST by Miss Marple
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To: T Lady
That's none other than Hillary Rosen, member of the Creative Coalition and the Human (Gay) Rights Campaign.

She's truly evil. She's lying when she says Nancy Reagan was elevated. She was seriously debased.

44 posted on 12/01/2003 6:30:00 PM PST by Lazamataz (PROUDLY POSTING WITHOUT READING THE ARTICLE SINCE 1999 !)
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45 posted on 12/01/2003 6:30:06 PM PST by hole_n_one
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46 posted on 12/01/2003 6:31:15 PM PST by hole_n_one
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To: T Lady
I'm still wondering why ROsen is even participating in this panel.
47 posted on 12/01/2003 6:31:17 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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To: Miss Marple
One of the things we should think about is making her style of music un-cool. If we had gay conservatives who would mock her, so much the better!

Believe it or not, we have wonderful friends in the endeavor to take Streisand down a peg. The creators of South Park have made her a fool in many of their episodes.

48 posted on 12/01/2003 6:31:20 PM PST by Lazamataz (PROUDLY POSTING WITHOUT READING THE ARTICLE SINCE 1999 !)
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To: hole_n_one
great catch. quick hand. good job
49 posted on 12/01/2003 6:31:43 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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To: kristinn
Kalb just said this movie lacks taste. What an understatement, although he's right.

-Regards, T.
50 posted on 12/01/2003 6:31:44 PM PST by T Lady (Who Let the 'RATS Out?!!)
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