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Saddam Deputy Possibly Captured or Killed (Izzat Ibrahim al-Duri)
MSNBC | 12/02/03 | Reuters

Posted on 12/02/2003 2:40:46 AM PST by GulliverSwift

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To: FreedomPoster
It would be on Flengineer's homepage.Right at the top.
51 posted on 12/02/2003 4:57:56 AM PST by MEG33
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To: MEG33
Thanks!
52 posted on 12/02/2003 5:07:48 AM PST by FreedomPoster (this space intentionally blank)
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To: FreedomPoster
Your welcome.
53 posted on 12/02/2003 5:08:31 AM PST by MEG33
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``There was a major action against a highly suspicious objective last night in Kirkuk and it is very possible that Izzat Ibrahim has been captured or killed,'' Reuters cited the council member, Mowaffaq al-Rubaie, as saying in the capital, Baghdad. Al- Rubaie said he had been in contact with the U.S. military.

The U.S.-led coalition last month offered a $10 million reward for information leading to al-Duri's capture. Al-Duri is ``directly implicated'' in some attacks on coalition forces, and the U.S. seeks his capture or death, Brigadier General Mark Kimmett said in announcing the reward. Al-Duri is the highest- ranking fugitive from the regime after No. 1-ranked Hussein.

There was no immediate information on al-Duri's fate as a result of the search, a U.S. military spokesman in Kirkuk said in a telephone interview. The hunt was led by the 173rd Airborne Brigade, using Black Hawk helicopters, with support from the Iraqi Civil Defense Corps and police, another spokesman said. (rooters) Last week, U.S. troops arrested a wife and a daughter of al-Douri in an apparent attempt to pressure him into surrendering.

In Baghdad, workers on Tuesday began dismantling four giant bronze busts of Saddam Hussein that have long been a Baghdad landmark.

The workers used a construction crane to take down the busts in the Republican Palace, in yet another move aimed at eradicating the former leader's influence. The U.S.-led Coalition Provisional Authority announced last month that it would dismantle the 13-feet-high busts. It was not clear how long the operation would last.




54 posted on 12/02/2003 5:11:12 AM PST by anglian
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To: GulliverSwift

Bye Bye!

I really hope these reports are accurate!
55 posted on 12/02/2003 5:18:58 AM PST by CurlyBill (Voter fraud is one of the primary campaign strategies of the Democrats!!!!)
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To: anglian
Al Duri may have been killed or captured.

This is not news. This is the possibility of news. Saddam's WMD intentions may have been documented. Syria may have helped Saddam buy banned missle technology. Howard Dean may have a secret life crossdressing as streetwalker named Alice. May or may not means nothing.

56 posted on 12/02/2003 5:20:50 AM PST by epluribus_2
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To: GulliverSwift; FL_engineer
You may want to keep an eye on the FReeper pager today just in case this can be confirmed (at the moment, it's "The king of spades may have been killed or captured" - emphasis added).
57 posted on 12/02/2003 5:31:06 AM PST by steveegg (Property tax freeze? Since Craps Doyle vetoed, RECALL - countdown is now 35 days (late update))
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To: CurlyBill
I hope they beat him like a red-headed step child!
(With apologies to any RHSC in the group.)
58 posted on 12/02/2003 5:32:30 AM PST by ISonnet
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To: FreedomPoster; MEG33
FL_engineer's been paged so he can keep a close eye on this "maybe" big story.
59 posted on 12/02/2003 5:33:30 AM PST by steveegg (Property tax freeze? Since Craps Doyle vetoed, RECALL - countdown is now 35 days (late update))
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To: steveegg
Good call.
60 posted on 12/02/2003 5:51:20 AM PST by FreedomPoster (this space intentionally blank)
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To: GulliverSwift
Al-Duri, Hussein's No. 2, Captured, Iraqi Council Member Says

Dec. 2 (Bloomberg) -- Izzat Ibrahim al-Duri, second in command to ousted Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein, has been captured by U.S. forces in the northern Iraqi city of Kirkuk, a member of the Iraqi Governing Council said.

``Yes, he has been captured,'' Mahmud Uthman, a Kurdish member of the council, told British Broadcasting Corp. radio from Baghdad. ``I don't have more details,'' he said, adding that the council was informed of the capture earlier today.

Reuters earlier cited Mowaffaq al-Rubaie, another council member, as saying that al-Duri has been either captured or killed as part of ``a major action'' in the area around Kirkuk.

The U.S.-led coalition last month offered a $10 million reward for information leading to al-Duri's capture. Al-Duri is ``directly implicated'' in some attacks on coalition forces, and the U.S. seeks his capture or death, Brigadier General Mark Kimmett said in announcing the reward. After Hussein, Al-Duri is the highest-ranking fugitive from the regime still at large.

There was no immediate information on al-Duri's fate as a result of the search, a U.S. military spokesman in Kirkuk said in a telephone interview. The hunt was led by the 173rd Airborne Brigade, using Black Hawk helicopters, with support from the Iraqi Civil Defense Corps and police, another spokesman said.

Last Updated: December 2, 2003 08:45 EST

61 posted on 12/02/2003 6:07:17 AM PST by freeperfromnj
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To: freeperfromnj
Wasn't he the one featured on the cover of the Cure Album Standing On a Beach? LMAO!

62 posted on 12/02/2003 6:20:12 AM PST by CurlyBill (Voter fraud is one of the primary campaign strategies of the Democrats!!!!)
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To: MEG33
I have to fight my memory of the "capture" of OsamaBin Laden


63 posted on 12/02/2003 6:22:16 AM PST by ASA Vet ("Right-wing Internet wacko")
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To: GulliverSwift
This would be great, fingers crossed for confirmation.
64 posted on 12/02/2003 6:44:07 AM PST by No Blue States
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To: CurlyBill

Email this slideshow A wanted poster, released by the US-led coalition, shows Saddam Hussein (news - web sites)'s number two, Izzat Ibrahim al-Duri. Reports say that he has been captured or killed by US forces.(AFP/File/Marina Passos)

U.S. May Have Captured 'Big Fish' in Iraq

By MARIAM FAM, Associated Press Writer

KIRKUK, Iraq - U.S. troops have captured or killed a "big fish" in a large military operation in Kirkuk, a member of Iraq's Governing Council said Tuesday. Other officials said Saddam Hussein (news - web sites)'s top former deputy Izzat Ibrahim al-Douri was the target.

The U.S. military, however, could not confirm that it was al-Douri — the top Iraqi fugitive after Saddam. The Americans have pointed to al-Douri as a coordinator of the insurgency against U.S. forces, and last week offered a $10 million reward for information leading to his arrest.

Mowaffak al-Rubaie, a member of the U.S.-picked Iraqi Governing Council, told the Arabic television station Al-Jazeera that there was "a very big military operation" in Kirkuk and that those killed or captured included a "big fish."

"We are trying to verify the identity of this important figure," al-Rubaie said. "Preliminary examination has been very positive."

A senior Kurdish official in Kirkuk said, speaking on condition of anonymity, said he heard al-Douri had been "killed or captured," citing sources in his political party. The official said family members of al-Douri bodyguards were seen crying and saying that al-Douri had been captured.

The official also said the family members were in Hawija, 30 miles west of Kirkuk, and that American soldiers had arrested dozens of people there in an overnight raid.

For months, U.S. officials have pointed to him as a coordinator of incessant attacks on American forces in Iraq — and that al-Douri could be working with the al-Qaida-linked militant group Ansar al-Islam.

In the latest such violence, a U.S. soldier from the 4th Infantry Division was killed Tuesday near Samarra, the site of weekend fighting between American troops and guerrillas, the military said.

U.S. commanders claimed that up to 54 guerrillas were killed in the clash Sunday , but this has been disputed by residents and hospital officials who say less than 10 people — most of them civilians — died.

After the weekend fighting, U.S. forces said Samarra attacks demonstrated a greater level of coordination in the Iraqi insurgency, although U.S. forces said they had anticipated the attacks and blunted them with superior firepower.

An Associated Press photographer who arrived at the scene Tuesday saw American soldiers using a stretcher to carry a body covered in plastic to a military truck.

Witnesses told the photographer that a roadside explosive was detonated under a U.S. military Humvee, which then collided with an Iraqi civilian vehicle. The incident occurred on the highway just south of Samarra, 60 miles north of Baghdad.

At a NATO meeting in Brussels, Belgium, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld said he had no information about the possible arrest of al-Douri, and his aides said they were pursuing the report.

No. 6 on the American military list of most-wanted Iraqis, al-Douri was vice chairman of Saddam's Revolutionary Command Council. U.S. troops last week arrested a wife and a daughter of al-Douri in an apparent attempt to pressure him into surrendering.

In Baghdad, workers on Tuesday began dismantling four giant bronze busts of Saddam Hussein that have long been a landmark in the Iraqi capital.

The workers used a construction crane to take down the busts in the Republican Palace, in yet another move aimed at eradicating the former leader's influence. The U.S.-led Coalition Provisional Authority announced last month that it would dismantle the 13-feet-high busts. It was not clear how long the operation would last.

In addition to attacking coalition forces, rebels in recent days have killed a number of nonmilitary personnel, including two Japanese diplomats, two South Korean electrical workers and a Colombian contractor.

Sir Jeremy Greenstock, Britain's chief representative in Iraq, warned that insurgents are now turning to softer targets and urged foreigners to increase security levels.

"People have to be very careful. The Spaniards and the Japanese who were killed this week were not following the strictest possible protection rules," Greenstock told British Broadcasting Corp. radio.

Greenstock said he was confident coalition troops would retain a grip on events and said the coalition backed the aggressive approach to tackling security problems being taken by Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez, the top U.S. commander in Iraq.

During the past month, U.S. troops have pounded suspected guerrilla targets under a new "get-tough" campaign against the insurgency. Despite the crackdown, November has proven to be the deadliest for coalition troops since the war began.

The increasing death toll has raised concerns in some nations taking part in the U.S.-led coalition.

On Tuesday, Thailand's Foreign Minister Surakiart Sathirathai said government leaders will discuss the possibility of withdrawing Thailand's contingent from Iraq if the security situation continues to deteriorate.

Thailand dispatched 422 soldiers in September in a non-combat capacity to help rebuild roads, buildings and other infrastructure destroyed during the war, and to provide medical services.

U.S. forces may have killed or captured Izzat Ibrahim, the most wanted man in Iraq after Saddam Hussein and believed to be a mastermind of the guerrilla resistance, Iraq Governing Council sources said on December 2, 2003. News of the possible elimination of a man with a $10 million price on his head emerged as Spain mourned seven intelligence officers killed in Iraq and U.S. allies agonized over whether the occupation was worth the cost in blood. Ibrahim is seen in Damascus in this March 6 file photo. Photo by Reuters

65 posted on 12/02/2003 7:07:56 AM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: GulliverSwift
I really hope this guy is captured alive... He is the "missing link" between Saddam's Regime and terrorists...

It's been said he had "teamed up" with foreign terrorists. Some liberals would have you think that it happened AFTER the war, but a normal person would understand that these kinds of relationships don't just happen overnight. It's not like they bumped into each other in the middle of the desert and said, "Hey, I know you would like to see me dead, but how about we team up? Deal?"...
66 posted on 12/02/2003 7:07:56 AM PST by nuffsenuff
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To: GulliverSwift
I saw this on FoxNews this morning, and my reaction was that I wish they'd stop speculating and let us know when they have something besides wishful thinking. This kind of reporting reminds me of all the times they told us that we were "hours away" from catching Saddam or Osama.

Just show me the corpse on the gurney, please...

67 posted on 12/02/2003 7:16:34 AM PST by Kenton
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To: prairiebreeze
we've got to be a little careful with this story. remember that geraldo (please, no flames, it was a good story) reported a couple of weeks ago that we were negotiating with this guy, he wanted medical care and safe passage for his family, to surrender and thus stop organizing the attacks. this "he's dead" thing might be the cover story being used to mask his surrender, sort of like getting him into the witness protection program. the true test will be whether the rate of attacks starts dropping.
68 posted on 12/02/2003 7:24:11 AM PST by oceanview
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To: epluribus_2
Rumor confirmed.

Several different sources have confirmed that there indeed is a rumor on the streets of Kirkuk that Izzat Ibrahim al-Douri has been captured or killed. We have no idea if this is true.

69 posted on 12/02/2003 7:45:23 AM PST by cookcounty
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To: GulliverSwift
Debka.com says that he is now 'mortally ill..'

70 posted on 12/02/2003 7:50:53 AM PST by hapc
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To: cookcounty
Looks pretty certain they got someone, anyway, and are just making sure whoever it is is properly ID'd, with signs pointing to al Douri.
71 posted on 12/02/2003 7:51:22 AM PST by JohnnyZ (Colgate Raiders Football -- 13-0 and advancing through the playoffs)
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To: GulliverSwift
MSNBC is reporting that he has NOT been captured. Report is untrue
72 posted on 12/02/2003 7:56:13 AM PST by leadpenny
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To: hapc
Debka.com says that he is now 'mortally ill..'

No, he's just "pining". ;)

73 posted on 12/02/2003 8:01:04 AM PST by Forgiven_Sinner (Praying for the Kingdom of God.)
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To: leadpenny
Here is the Ajeeb translation of al-Jazeera site, from Arabic to English, one can try to make heads or tails of it. Need arabic speaker to line it up with original text and 'clean it up':

(sic) "The Reuters news agency Azza Ibrahim Aldori is the dismissed Iraqi vice-president Saddam Hussein he may have been kill or he was detained through an American campaign in Kirkuk city . So that the vernal did not confirm in statements to AlJazeera a correctness what was informed it from it the agency content with the saying the joint operation that the Iraqi forces participated in was successful to a great extent and she resulted in the killing of a big fish . And the vernal added that it now the assurance of the identity of the old personality happens and that the first examination results bode good and she is a positivity, confirming that the one that delivered to this successful operation they am the Iraqis who co-operated with us, and the nation who became weary of the terrorism and the suffering and the violence . And he said that an official as my answer refused the mention of its name Azza Ibrahim may be killed or he was detained, referring that members in its party confirmed that they watched guards families Ibrahim they make cry sayings Aldouri was detained . And an official in the Iraqi police declared that the American forces started yesterday evening in Kirkuk region in north of Iraq the greatest search operation carried out it until now for the finding of Azza Ibrahim and seniors officers in the previous regime . And he added that the operation leans on mentioned reports from the intelligences that confirms that it was present in the region, confirming that the search operations focused in Alhwega city in west of Kirkuk and rationality village in its south . An attack and detentions The rains did not stop the American operations ( the French ) And the manager of Alhwega police said the occupation forces besieged since the dawn Alhwega totally a search for the second man in the previous Iraqi regime, confirming that tens of civilians were detained through the operation . And he clarified that the American forces believe that the..."

74 posted on 12/02/2003 8:01:58 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (NORTH KOREA is a DANGEROUS CANCER in late stages; we still only meditate and take herbal medicines)
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To: GulliverSwift
MSNBC: Izzat al-Dori has not been captured.

75 posted on 12/02/2003 8:06:19 AM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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U.S. Army Says Saddam Aide Not Caught in Iraq Raid

KIRKUK, Iraq (Reuters) - The U.S. military said Izzat Ibrahim, the most wanted man in Iraq (news - web sites) after Saddam Hussein, had not been captured in a raid near Kirkuk on Tuesday -- despite reports to the contrary from Iraq's Governing Council.

"He was definitely not captured in today's mission," Major Doug Vincent of the 173rd Airborne Brigade told reporters who accompanied troops on the raid in Hawija, near Kirkuk.

76 posted on 12/02/2003 8:10:42 AM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat; Ragtime Cowgirl
MSNBC: Izzat al-Dori has not been captured.

Recalls the scene in Kelly's heroes where Oddball's Sherman tank platoon finally finds a bridge that can get them across an intervening river.

Tank Commander Oddball: "Well, it's a railroad bridge isn't it?" "Well then, beautiful, we swing down on the railroad tracks, and rigghht over da bridge...."

Moriarity: "All over da bridge. Sure. Suppose the bridge ain't there?"

Oddball: "Oh man. Don't hit me with them negative waves so early in the morning." "Think: "That bridge will be there," and it'll be there. It's a mother-beautiful bridge, and it's gonna be there"

Oddball: "It's still up!"

[Airplanes pass over, and bombs and explosions blow the bridge to splinters]

Oddball: "No it ain't.... See what sending out them negative waves did, Moriarity?"

Moriarity: "Hey, that ain't my fault. I've had nothing but good thoughts about that bridge ever since we left." "What Now?"

Oddball: "It looks like we're gonna have to find ourselves another bridge...."

Moriarity: "And where are we going to find another bridge?"

Oddball: "There you go again: more negative waves. Have a little faith, baby, have a little faith...."

He's been captured...No he ain't....

[Have a little faith, baby....]

-archy-/-

77 posted on 12/02/2003 8:51:35 AM PST by archy (Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
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To: archy
Fox now saying Coalition says he has NOT been captured...
78 posted on 12/02/2003 9:11:40 AM PST by BushMeister
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To: archy
Lol! Thanks, archy. The press is always quick to bring us unverified rumors.

I haven't even taken my tank out for a spin, yet.

"That bridge will be there."

(^:

79 posted on 12/02/2003 10:07:59 AM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl ( "Our military is full of the finest people on the face of the earth." ~ Pres. Bush, Baghdad)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
I haven't even taken my tank out for a spin, yet.

Me neither...


80 posted on 12/02/2003 10:35:50 AM PST by archy (Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Rats, thought this would happen soon. Need to get this guy oput of circulation to see if Saddam is really alive.
81 posted on 12/02/2003 11:13:40 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Davis is now out of Arnoold's Office , Bout Time!!!!)
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To: TexKat; Dog; mystery-ak
I step away from the board a few hours and look what happens ;(
82 posted on 12/02/2003 3:17:28 PM PST by MEG33
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To: MEG33
Iknew it was something before I left for work this morning when on Fox and Friends there was no confirmation. It appears that the media is going by what some of the Iraqis tell them. They (the media) will never learn.
83 posted on 12/02/2003 4:52:41 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: GulliverSwift
Hoping this is true also!
84 posted on 12/14/2003 7:11:04 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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85 posted on 12/16/2003 5:04:01 AM PST by OXENinFLA (LISTEN, DID YOU SMELL SOMETHING?)
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