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Sorting out the facts on AIDS
Oak Lawn (IL) Reporter ^ | 12/4/03 | Michael M. Bates

Posted on 12/02/2003 7:58:03 AM PST by mikeb704

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To: walford; mikeb704
Yes, it is true that in Africa AIDS is spread more by hetero contact.

Actually that's not true.

From Anal Sex Largest Cause of HIV in Africa

TUEBINGEN, June 16, 2003 (LifeSiteNews.com) - A study by researchers at the University of Tuebingen in Germany has found that anal sex, both homosexual and heterosexual, is the second largest cause of HIV transmission in Africa. Transmission in medical settings, such as through dirty needles, is listed as the primary cause, says the study published in the current edition of The Journal of Sexually Transmitted Diseases and Aids.

In a finding which has HIV/AIDS activists on edge, the researchers, say vaginal transmission of HIV is a very distant third compared to medical transmission and transmission through anal sex.

The report's author Dr. Stuart Brody, of the Institute of Medical Psychology and Behavioural Neurobiology, said people in Africa need to be told that anal sex poses a greater risk of transmitting the Aids virus.

Also of interest:

African Women and AIDS

African sexual health programmes "misguided"

41 posted on 12/02/2003 4:27:46 PM PST by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: scripter
Quoting from http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/902678/posts

African medical workers are taught (and paid) to emphasize reproductive health procedures (contraception, sterilization, and abortion), often to the near exclusion of primary health care. Poorly equipped clinics are kept well-supplied with Depo-Provera, IUDs, and condoms. According to Dr. Stephen Karanja, the former Secretary of the Kenyan Medical Association, “Thousands of the Kenyan people will die of malaria whose treatment costs a few cents, in health facilities whose stores are stacked to the roof with millions of dollars worth of pills, IUDs, Norplant, Depo-Provera, most of which are supplied with American money.”(3)

Is it mere coincidence that the same groups that are targeted for invasive procedures are disproportionately afflicted with AIDS? We think not. Women and girls account for such a high percentage of HIV/AIDS victims in Africa because they are infected during procedures designed to disable their reproductive systems and prevent them from conceiving or bearing children.


This study shows how politically agendized Western aid is targeted at facilitating 'safe' sex rather than teaching abstinence and chastity, which is far more effective.

Extrapolate the 2% condom failure rate that the CDC touts. Take a 1000 member American high school. If 1/3 are sexually active and have 2 'incidents' a week, the failure rate adds up to 180 failures in a year. Even at the 0.1% figure that is sometimes cited the annual figure still adds up to 9. Is that an acceptable risk?

Africans join Westerners in being lied to that it is possible to have 'safe sex' with someone who is HIV+. Most believe this to be true when in fact it is an outrageous lie.

One thing that is not addressed sufficiently is the fact that women are biologically more vulnerable to the transmission of STDs like HIV. The 'catcher' is going to be more vulnerable than the 'pitcher,' vaginal or anal, hetero or homo.

None of this undermines the main premise in #37; behavior -- specifically promiscuous behavior -- is the initial cause of the AIDS outbreak. Changing this behavior is the only way to stop it.
42 posted on 12/02/2003 5:04:41 PM PST by walford (Dogmatism swings both ways)
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To: mikeb704
Yet it’s interesting that the African nation that’s had singular success in curtailing AIDS uses exactly that approach. Uganda has based its efforts in what’s called the ABC model: Abstain, Be faithful, use Condoms if A and B fail. Priority is placed on using the first two options if at all possible.

It's almost as if G-d exists, and He knows what He's talking about.

Who wuda thunkit.

Shalom.

43 posted on 12/02/2003 5:10:21 PM PST by ArGee (Scientific reasoning makes it easier to support gross immorality.)
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To: xp38
In additiion to the lack of actual valid,verifiable statistics it seems that Africans no longer are dying of malnutrition,malaria,cholera,T.B. and the myriad of other "wasting" diseases that were so prevalent in Africa until ten years ago. No, now every African that dies is ticked as an AIDS death.How can people be seo gulllible?

Another factor involving AIDS in Africa is the fact that frequently little clinics will immunize,innoculate and/ or vaccinate large numbers of villagers with the same needle.

AIDS is big business,and more than any other is able to realize huge profits and receive large sums of money from the public both through public monies collected through taxes as well as the increased insurance payments the ordinary citizen has to pay for private insurance. Thanks in a good part for the big corporations insuring "significant others".

44 posted on 12/02/2003 5:35:28 PM PST by saradippity
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To: mikeb704
A virus has never been cured, and neither will AIDS be cured. Period.
45 posted on 12/02/2003 5:42:58 PM PST by At _War_With_Liberals
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To: mikeb704
Kofi Annan does not believe, or at least will not take the position, that AIDS is caused by HIV.
46 posted on 12/02/2003 5:45:00 PM PST by At _War_With_Liberals
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To: Little Ray
Yes, the number of aids cases in the third world is inflated, but even if you allow for that, the number of cases is just too high for it to be accounted for by homosexual and IV drug use transmission.
47 posted on 12/02/2003 5:50:00 PM PST by traditionalist
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To: FormerLib
They would never think of refusing blood donations based on ethnicity, although there might be a higher instance of HIV amongst a certain ethnic group.

Actually, they do. If you ever lived in the UK or spent more than a certain number of weeks there, you can't donate blood. The same is true for a number of African countries. I'm a regular blood donor, so I know first hand.

48 posted on 12/02/2003 5:53:22 PM PST by traditionalist
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To: ArGee
And shalom to you.
49 posted on 12/02/2003 6:34:31 PM PST by mikeb704
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To: walford
Good post.

None of this undermines the main premise in #37; behavior -- specifically promiscuous behavior -- is the initial cause of the AIDS outbreak. Changing this behavior is the only way to stop it.

I hope I didn't come across as trying to undermine your premise. Promiscuous behavior does indeed help spread AIDS that much more quickly, but it's important to note that AIDS targets homosexual behavior. Abstinence is the cure for AIDS. As you said, condoms aren't worth the risk.

50 posted on 12/02/2003 10:17:35 PM PST by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: PA Engineer
I can't believe this number. Wesley Clark is proposing giving $750,000 for every infected AIDS individual in care and research funds per year.

Wesley's now explained how he's going to pay for his proposal. According to the Miami Herald: "Asked how he would pay for his ambitious AIDS plan, Clark pointed to a bunch of red, white and blue balloons. ''I can bring this country together,'' he said. ``I believe we can come together on this because I believe in this country. I love those colors, I love the flag.""

Oh, that's how he's going to do it.

51 posted on 12/10/2003 9:35:46 PM PST by mikeb704
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