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Conservatives Beat Aggies(Texas A&M)?
WSJ.com ^ | 12-01-03 | Best of the Web

Posted on 12/02/2003 8:07:06 AM PST by SwinneySwitch

The Texas A&M football team has just finished a dreadful season, going 4-8 overall and 2-6 in the Big 12 conference, including a 77-0 humiliation at the University of Oklahoma. Texas A&M's athletic director, Bill Byrne, has a novel theory as to why his school is suffering athletically. He blames the Young Conservatives of Texas A&M, a student group, which held one of those "affirmative action bake sales":

"Free speech is not an issue for me, and differing political beliefs are not an issue for me, because I believe that reasonable people can disagree. But I'm disappointed over the national attention that Texas A&M University received recently because of a few individuals and their idea of a protest.

The Texas A&M Bake Sale plays right into the hands of those who recruit against us, in both athletics and in the general student population. They will use something like this to suggest that Texas A&M does not have a welcoming environment.

We all know that is not true. Unfortunately, a few individuals represented 45,000 students and an entire community in precisely the wrong light. My hope is that those of you who have a chance to influence public opinion will speak out against anything like this that discredits Texas A&M University. It causes me to redouble my efforts to do exactly that."

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TOPICS: Extended News; Miscellaneous; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aggiejokes; aggies; am; bakesale; texas; youngconservatives
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Talk about national attention!
1 posted on 12/02/2003 8:07:07 AM PST by SwinneySwitch
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To: Texaggie79
ping!
2 posted on 12/02/2003 8:08:21 AM PST by BrooklynGOP (www.logicandsanity.com)
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To: SwinneySwitch
Talk about being a complete idiot. The team has a lousy season and the coach blames a protest?

What a tool.
3 posted on 12/02/2003 8:08:41 AM PST by Bikers4Bush
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To: SwinneySwitch
Is this from the Onion?
4 posted on 12/02/2003 8:10:58 AM PST by Dante3
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To: SwinneySwitch
seems quite the contrary to me...let the truth be told, then proven and recruits show up. tell the truth, they will come.

a majority of Aggies is Texans and Texans is truth tellers
, well except some there in Houston.
5 posted on 12/02/2003 8:11:04 AM PST by cars for sale
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To: Bikers4Bush
Holy Moley. I am SO embarrassed. I am an Aggie, and I can't believe how my alma mater has backslid in the past decade...
6 posted on 12/02/2003 8:11:53 AM PST by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: cars for sale
I'm in Houston. That's no lie!
7 posted on 12/02/2003 8:12:45 AM PST by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: Bikers4Bush
Is this the athletic equivalent of the "Twinkey Defense?"

I saw the game with Oklahoma and believe me, it's gonna take a load of Twinkeys to explain this season away. What an idiot. Must be a dem.

8 posted on 12/02/2003 8:14:06 AM PST by Adrastus
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To: SwinneySwitch
How did this liberal AD get hired down in Aggie Land?
9 posted on 12/02/2003 8:14:11 AM PST by hapc
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To: SwinneySwitch
...a few individuals represented 45,000 students and an entire community in precisely the wrong light...

Precisely the correct light.
10 posted on 12/02/2003 8:14:22 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: SwinneySwitch
Did you hear about the aggie on the road going to college? Saw a sign that said Clean Restrooms ahead. By the time he got to campus he had cleaned 86 restrooms.
11 posted on 12/02/2003 8:14:50 AM PST by SF Republican
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To: Dante3
No, Onion content is not allowed on FR anymore. In short, the Onion sucks.
12 posted on 12/02/2003 8:15:36 AM PST by xrp (The best service 'public servants' can do for the public is to get out of public service.)
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To: SwinneySwitch
The repute which football coaches have for wisdom is unfathomable to me.

He's a farging football coach - not a philosopher!
13 posted on 12/02/2003 8:17:00 AM PST by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: Endeavor; lodwick
The Texas A&M Bake Sale plays right into the hands of those who recruit against us, in both athletics and in the general student population.

If we extend this theory to Iowa State recruiting,,, are we to assume the Bondage Club, funded by student fees, is going to increase or decrease enrollment?

14 posted on 12/02/2003 8:19:09 AM PST by Iowa Granny (One man with courage makes a majority..... Andrew Jackson)
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To: Dante3
Is this from the Onion?

No he was imported from the University of Nebraska.

15 posted on 12/02/2003 8:19:45 AM PST by Paleo Conservative (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: SwinneySwitch
University of Oklahoma has one of the most conservative coaches in America -- Bob Stoops and his staff. When invited to the White House after the 2000 National Championship season by Pres Bush, Bob Stoops came right and out said we supported you Mr. President.

Tell the Aggies they lost because they have an athletic director with mush for brains. The way they hired Franchionne from Alabama while firing Slocum the way they did, the Aggies deserve everything they have coming.

Was at the Oklahoma/A&M game -- The Aggies quit on their coach halfway through the 2nd quarter. We played everyone including the scout team and the Aggies still couldn't cross their own 41 yard line. Three first downs -- give me a break! Baylor gave more of a game by far then the Aggies.

They were pathetic and gave about 30% in that game. This is one game we could have scored a 100 or more. Taking a knee on first down on the 3 yard line with a lot of time left in the game should have been an embarrassment to the Aggies. Or how about letting the clock run in the second half and no time outs when the Sooners got first downs or either team ran out of bounds. Franchione saying if the clock hadn't been running, they could have least scored just added insult to his own program. They couldn't even get a first down against our scout team, how were they going to score. Then he said the ref never told him the clock was going to keep running but the ref said they did!

We put in plays with a fullback that have never been run here so we wouldn't score and what do the Aggie players do -- tackle our player in the backfield that was 10 yards behind the quaterback to not to score and then march around the field beating on their chest after the tackle in the 4th quarter down 77-0!

Texas A&M should be ashamed of their Aggie football team and the performance they put on here in Norman -- to quit and not try hard says a lot about their coaching staff and the players themselves. I would take Baylor's pride over the Aggies any day of the week for this season.

Maybe some Aggie can tell us Sooners why they wave white towels around -- that Saturday it looked like surrender flags. Don't you think waving a towel with the A&M red color would be more appropriate.

My two cents -- have zero respect for the Texas A&M football program right now -- they should get a clue from Baylor who never quit in our game. I have kept my mouth shut about that 77-0 win, but this article takes the cake. OU for their information is a conservative university for the most part as is Okie State who also clobbered the Aggies.
16 posted on 12/02/2003 8:19:45 AM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- OU Sooners are #1)
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To: SF Republican
ROFLOL!!! Longhorn fan perhaps?
17 posted on 12/02/2003 8:20:33 AM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- OU Sooners are #1)
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To: Dante3
The Journal got it from Bill Byrne's Wednesday Weekly.

http://www.aggieathletics.com/feature.php?type=1&Feature=41
18 posted on 12/02/2003 8:21:19 AM PST by SwinneySwitch (Freedom isn't Free - Support those who ensure it!)
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To: SwinneySwitch
This isn't news. EVERYONE beats the Aggies.
19 posted on 12/02/2003 8:21:40 AM PST by William McKinley
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To: SF Republican
Is it true that an Aggie diploma doubles as a handicapped parking sticker in Houston?
20 posted on 12/02/2003 8:22:29 AM PST by hapc
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To: Frank_Discussion
except one, I have a great school boy friend from N TX living in Houston who is a pillar of the earth
21 posted on 12/02/2003 8:22:47 AM PST by cars for sale
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To: SwinneySwitch
Let me get this straight...

A&M has a dismal season on the football field...
Football coach blames conservatism on campus.

I don't see how the coach is helping his cause. If I'm a football player, I'm not going to A&M simply because the coach is a dolt.

22 posted on 12/02/2003 8:23:24 AM PST by The_Victor
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To: SwinneySwitch
>>>>>>>>The Texas A&M football team has just finished a dreadful season, going 4-8 overall and 2-6 in the Big 12 conference, including a 77-0 humiliation at the University of Oklahoma. Texas A&M's athletic director, Bill Byrne, has a novel theory as to why his school is suffering athletically. He blames the Young Conservatives of Texas A&M, a student group, which held one of those "affirmative action bake sales":

AD Byrne, you just lost 77-0. Your players had a little more wrong than 1 or 2 teeed off NAACP Pass rushers. If I were socially disadvantaged by about 77-0, perhaps I'd look for a scapegoat or two as well. Afterall, getting your Texas Art and Music a---- whipped on national tv probably has a disparate impact on your recruiting efforts.

Truth to be told, most college athletes are professionals and don't let annoying things like AA Bake Sales pee in their cheerios. If Big 10 competition is beyond the scope of 'The Junction Boys', there are other remedies.

When Oklahoma was gleefully snipping The UT Longhorns, an obviously happy OU drunk, help up a sign stating 'Texas should consider touch football.' It was nice of OU's fan base. It should sensitivity to the obviously disadvantaged that were stinking up the gridiron on an otherwise lovely Saturday afternoon.
23 posted on 12/02/2003 8:23:39 AM PST by .cnI redruM (At the core, beneath a thin veneer of socialization, we are still salacious monkeys.)
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To: PhiKapMom
Mom..love yer rant....but, BUT..time to switch to the decaf..it's only football
24 posted on 12/02/2003 8:23:45 AM PST by ken5050
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To: William McKinley
Not when RC Slocum was coach.

The school fired their best coach because he had one nominal season, and they hired the new coach and had one embarrassing season.

I'm an Aggie, and this is an embarrassment.
25 posted on 12/02/2003 8:24:37 AM PST by luckystarmom
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To: PhiKapMom
tackle our player in the backfield that was 10 yards behind the quaterback to not to score and then march around the field beating on their chest after the tackle in the 4th quarter down 77-0!

I remembered that, it was the most ridiculous thing I had ever seen, I wished OU would have hung 100 on them (and they very easily could have).

26 posted on 12/02/2003 8:25:11 AM PST by dfwgator (Are you blind with an IQ under 50? Then you too can be an ACC football referee.)
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To: luckystarmom
The school fired their best coach because he had one nominal season, and they hired the new coach and had one embarrassing season.

Well at least he did better than Bear Bryant did his first year at A&M.

27 posted on 12/02/2003 8:26:19 AM PST by dfwgator (Are you blind with an IQ under 50? Then you too can be an ACC football referee.)
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To: SwinneySwitch
Where is the ACLU? Where are the free speechers?

If a big time coach ever even breathed the thought that the team lost because some leftists on campus were protesting Bush about [anything], the leftie wing nuts would be sreaming for a resignation. They'd be screaming about surpression of academic freedom, get rid of the Patriot Act, and sensitivity training for all, especially the new coach.

If this coach is such a jerk than he is not only a lousy football leader, he is a stain on the Aggie colors and should be asked to leave immediately. I plan to write my state legislators and demand significants cut backs in the money we are wasting with this program and that the next coach be slected only after assuring that he'd stand by his results and not go looking for scapegoats!

28 posted on 12/02/2003 8:26:44 AM PST by Tacis
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To: Tacis
Coach Fran didn't make those comments, the AD did.
29 posted on 12/02/2003 8:28:22 AM PST by dfwgator (Are you blind with an IQ under 50? Then you too can be an ACC football referee.)
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To: luckystarmom
Nebraska just one-upped A&M
30 posted on 12/02/2003 8:30:01 AM PST by ken5050
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To: PhiKapMom
"University of Oklahoma has one of the most conservative coaches in America -- Bob Stoops and his staff. When invited to the White House after the 2000 National Championship season by Pres Bush, Bob Stoops came right and out said we supported you Mr. President."

I didn't know that. I am grad. of Okla State Univ '73. I guess I will be kinder and gentler to Stoops from now on! Bedlam rivalry you know!

Best of luck in your bowl game!!!!!
31 posted on 12/02/2003 8:32:21 AM PST by buffyt (Can you say President Hillary? Me Neither!!!!)
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To: SwinneySwitch
Texas A&M's athletic director, Bill Byrne, has a novel theory as to why his school is suffering athletically. He blames the Young Conservatives of Texas A&M, a student group, which held one of those "affirmative action bake sales":

Weren't the current crop of players (the ones who lost 77-0) recruited prior to the affirmative action bake sale? This clown should get his head out of his ass and switch off NPR. He really should try a new profession.

32 posted on 12/02/2003 8:36:43 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Dante3
that was my first thought.
33 posted on 12/02/2003 8:39:03 AM PST by jern
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To: BrooklynGOP
O M G!! I want Bill fired NOW. HE is the reason people don't want to come to A&M.
34 posted on 12/02/2003 8:46:03 AM PST by Texaggie79 (Did I just say that?)
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To: Bikers4Bush
Bill is the AD, from Nebraska. Not the COACH....
35 posted on 12/02/2003 8:46:38 AM PST by Texaggie79 (Did I just say that?)
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To: SwinneySwitch
I would be embarrassed if I were from Texas A&M. I said it before, A&M was a decent college until it decided to go PC. Now its a cesspool for liberal democrats. Being a cesspool, it is hard to get the good quality football players that are numerous in Texas to go to A&M. Every good program in the country has Texas football players on the roster; just look at Oklahoma.
36 posted on 12/02/2003 8:50:54 AM PST by vetvetdoug (Recall should be played all day on the campus of A&M)
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To: Bikers4Bush
Talk about being a complete idiot. The team has a lousy season and the coach blames a protest?

Oh, A&M is full of B.S. excuses every time they lose a football game. I remember once when my university (UT-Austin) beat them, they said we only won because the bonfire collapsed. Losers. (Might I add that this was a few years before the bonfire collapse tragedy that cost the lives of some young students.)

37 posted on 12/02/2003 8:52:19 AM PST by Pedantic_Lady
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To: SF Republican
Did you hear about the aggie on the road going to college? Saw a sign that said Clean Restrooms ahead. By the time he got to campus he had cleaned 86 restrooms.

PWA HA HA HA


38 posted on 12/02/2003 8:53:30 AM PST by Pedantic_Lady
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To: hapc
Is it true that an Aggie diploma doubles as a handicapped parking sticker in Houston?

ROFLMAO


39 posted on 12/02/2003 8:55:07 AM PST by Pedantic_Lady
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To: buffyt
Looks like you guys are going to the Cotton Bowl with a Sooner win over K-State. Hope you all go down there and trounce Ole Miss! The planets are aligned really odd though -- Longhorns want us to win also in Kansas City. Roy Williams was really funny when he said he couldn't believe he was wishing for a Sooner win -- they get in the BCS Bowl with our win over K-State.

We have to uphold the Big 12 South being Conference Champions again as well! The North, except for K-State, isn't really that good this year. Looks like Nebraska may be going where the Sooners went after Gibbs, down, down, and down before Bob Stoops came on the scene.

Bob Stoops and his staff are conservative along with our Athletic Director and Kelvin Sampson who spoke to the Cleveland County Republican Club several months ago -- a lot of the players are as well.
40 posted on 12/02/2003 8:55:28 AM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- OU Sooners are #1)
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To: Pedantic_Lady
Hook em! From a former Austin resident..
41 posted on 12/02/2003 8:55:59 AM PST by hapc
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To: ken5050
Mom..love yer rant....but, BUT..time to switch to the decaf..it's only football

Dude...there is no such thing as only football in Texas.


42 posted on 12/02/2003 8:56:11 AM PST by Pedantic_Lady
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To: hapc
Hook em! From a former Austin resident..

YEAH!!!!!!


43 posted on 12/02/2003 8:57:48 AM PST by Pedantic_Lady
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To: SwinneySwitch
The team didn't lose because of the young conservatives having a bake sale. They lost because of the jerks over at the Library who chose to give a humanitarian award to Ted Kennedy!
44 posted on 12/02/2003 8:58:19 AM PST by Abynormal
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To: Pedantic_Lady
So are the Horns headed to the BCS this year, kind of a strange deal having to root for Oklahoma this weekend to prevent K-State from upsetting the apple cart..
45 posted on 12/02/2003 8:59:22 AM PST by hapc
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To: hapc
So are the Horns headed to the BCS this year, kind of a strange deal having to root for Oklahoma this weekend to prevent K-State from upsetting the apple cart..

We'll probably have our a$$es handed to us by Oklahoma and miss a good bowl bid, but hey....we're still having a pretty damned good year.

Not a bad runner-up prize:


46 posted on 12/02/2003 9:01:10 AM PST by Pedantic_Lady
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To: Pedantic_Lady
If a decent coach could have the recruits t.u. gets.... man....
47 posted on 12/02/2003 9:02:17 AM PST by Texaggie79 (Did I just say that?)
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To: ken5050
Out here in this part of the Country -- football is #1 -- we have more sports radio stations then we have talk radio stations -- there is a priority out here in Big 12 Country -- Football is king! All of our States (except for Iowa) also vote Conservative -- even among the Dems liberals are hard to find which makes this article so hilarious. Blaming conservatives for A&M losing! I am going to be laughing about that for a long time!

I have kept quiet for several weeks but this article put me over the top. That game was unbelieveable -- never witnessed anything like it -- A&M team quitting halfway through the 2nd quarter -- not the A&M teams I have known in the past. When we played in Alabama, they wanted the Sooner fans to yell Roll Tide when Fran came out! Alabama must have loved this game!

Edwards showed up at this game to pass out his info -- no one was wearing any of his name tags that I saw and he complained afterward that the Sooner fans didn't seem to be into politics -- moron! This was football Saturday in Norman -- only Republican politics and that mixes. We don't have trouble in the Fall passing out Republican tags to wear -- they used to put J.C.'s stick-on decals all over with no problem.
48 posted on 12/02/2003 9:02:46 AM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- OU Sooners are #1)
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To: SwinneySwitch
Surprisingly many Ags agree with him... texags.com
49 posted on 12/02/2003 9:04:11 AM PST by Texaggie79 (Did I just say that?)
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To: PhiKapMom
I was jes' funnin' ya..a little...Aggies haven't yet recovered from the bonfire tragedy, methinks...speakign of the OSU cowboys..Barry Sanders was on O'reilly last night....could be a future congresscriter..
50 posted on 12/02/2003 9:05:35 AM PST by ken5050
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