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String Theory, Universal Mind, and the Paranormal (Physics has hit rock bottom)
www.arxiv.org ^ | Dec 2, 2003 | Brian D Josephson

Posted on 12/02/2003 9:50:40 PM PST by mikegi

ABSTRACT

A model consistent with string theory is proposed for so-called paranormal phenomena such as extra-sensory perception (ESP). Our mathematical skills are assumed to derive from a special ‘mental vacuum state’, whose origin is explained on the basis of anthropic and biological arguments, taking into the need for the informational processes associated with such a state to be of a life-supporting character. ESP is then explained in terms of shared ‘thought bubbles’ generated by the participants out of the mental vacuum state. The paper concludes with a critique of arguments sometimes made claiming to ‘rule out’ the possible existence of paranormal phenomena.

Keywords: ESP, string theory, anthropic principle, thought bubble, universal mind, mental state

* To appear in the Proceedings of the 2nd. European Samueli Symposium, Freiburg, October 2003

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TOPICS: Extended News; Miscellaneous; Philosophy
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Has physics hit rock bottom??? Here we have a Nobel Prize winner promoting (handwaving, really) a theory of ESP and even psychokinesis. Sillystrings, vacuum states, etc. it's all there.

[Josephson needs to get with the program, Sillystrings has been replaced with M-Theory]

1 posted on 12/02/2003 9:50:40 PM PST by mikegi
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To: mikegi
bttt
2 posted on 12/02/2003 9:54:06 PM PST by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: mikegi
I dunno. The last silly string conference got a little out of hand...


3 posted on 12/02/2003 9:56:04 PM PST by general_re (Knife goes in, guts come out! That's what Osaka Food Concern is all about!)
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To: PatrickHenry; Physicist; RadioAstronomer; longshadow; Junior; Right Wing Professor; balrog666; ...
"Sillystring theory" ping.
4 posted on 12/02/2003 9:57:34 PM PST by general_re (Knife goes in, guts come out! That's what Osaka Food Concern is all about!)
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To: mikegi
The biggest conspiracy-theory nutcase I ever met was a physics professor. Smart guy when it came to quantum chromodynamics. Stupid as a post when it came to the high complexity of backing an automobile out of a parking place. I figure the wide ones ain't real deep and the deep ones ain't real wide.
5 posted on 12/02/2003 10:01:27 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: mikegi
bump for later reading.
6 posted on 12/02/2003 10:02:27 PM PST by lelio
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To: mikegi
INTREP -
7 posted on 12/02/2003 10:08:53 PM PST by LiteKeeper
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A theory of everything has to include...........everything.
8 posted on 12/02/2003 10:13:24 PM PST by Consort
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To: mikegi
I have a unified theory all worked out. It`s called "Hitlerys kampf" Hitlery Rodham struggles to become the ultimate ruler of both space, time and dimension
9 posted on 12/02/2003 10:17:41 PM PST by metalboy (I`m still waiting for the mass protests against Al Qaida and Saddam)
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To: mikegi
Susskind's arguments suggest that reality may be much more complex than has normally been assumed. Further changes in fundamental science (which may include consideration of the influence of life) may be required to address this complexity. Since our proposals (such as thought bubbles emerging from some kind of background) do not involve the precise details of string theory, they may survive any such changes that fundamental science may undergo.

Sounds like it bubbled up from somewhere.

10 posted on 12/02/2003 10:21:37 PM PST by KernFarmer
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To: mikegi
ESP is then explained in terms of shared ‘thought bubbles’ generated by the participants out of the mental vacuum state.

I will make the assertion that since ESP originates only when out of the mental vacuum state, that democRats to not have ESP.

11 posted on 12/02/2003 10:22:35 PM PST by Indie (Orwell was only a couple dozen years ahead of his time.)
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To: mikegi
I'll probably be flamed, but here goes anyways: in my life's experience as a highly rational high-level engineer, I've run across too much first hand to rule out things like ESP or clairvoyance.

Matter of fact, I'd have to rule them in, and if a guy like me is ruling them in, there must be a scientifically explainable phenomenon.

I'm not saying this physicist is doing a good job of investigating phenomena traditionally considered "paranormal", but eventually someone will come up with rational, provable theories explaining just how these things sometimes come about.

Brains are complex electro-chemical mechanisms that are not fully understood. The world of physics has a lot to understand about the world. Eventually they very might link up in surprising ways....

12 posted on 12/02/2003 10:24:21 PM PST by Yossarian (1 CA Governor down, 1 CA Senate and 1 CA House to go...)
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To: mikegi
I have had dreams that have later occurred. Nothing spectacular....for example, dreaming of being in a mall, and then going to visit a relative in a town I've never been to and going to the mall I dreamed about. Freaked me out the first time it happened.

In my opinion, physics professionals that delve into the subtle are truly getting closer to the foundations of the universe.

13 posted on 12/02/2003 10:30:34 PM PST by servantoftheservant
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To: servantoftheservant
You have an unusual gift. Nothing like that has ever happened to me or anyone else I know. Oh, I did have a dream about the lottery numbers once. So I played them. None of them came up.
14 posted on 12/02/2003 10:35:16 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: servantoftheservant
The world is more connected than we can conciously know. Of course, that's just my opinion because I can't know ;-)
15 posted on 12/02/2003 10:35:45 PM PST by glorgau
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To: servantoftheservant
Do you have serial dreams? Or
"Groundhog Day" (the movie) type dreams where everything happens again except you have the ability to react differently?
16 posted on 12/02/2003 10:39:31 PM PST by stands2reason ("Don't funk with my funk."--Bootsy Collins)
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To: general_re
String Theory is pretty much the only game in town for mainstream physicists in relation to the grand unified theory.
17 posted on 12/02/2003 10:43:11 PM PST by Pro-Bush (Homeland Security + Tom Ridge = Open Borders --> Demand Change!)
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To: mikegi
I did not read the article. I'll just wait to hear his interview with Art Bell.
18 posted on 12/02/2003 10:46:11 PM PST by DeepDish (Depleted uranium and democrats are a lot alike. They've both been sucked dry of anything useful)
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To: mikegi
Or perhaps, this is more like Jung's ideas on the Collective Unconscience....
19 posted on 12/02/2003 10:58:27 PM PST by jnarcus
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To: stands2reason
Do you have serial dreams?

Nope...can't remember ever dreaming the same thing twice.

20 posted on 12/02/2003 11:02:28 PM PST by servantoftheservant
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To: servantoftheservant
I saw the future once. I had a "dream" about an Italian boat racer who was killed in Paris. I told my husband about it the next day on the plane we took out of Portland bound for Europe. Three weeks later it happened exactly the way I had seen it although in real life I never saw what I had seen in my dream, I was just told about the circumatances and they were exactly what I had forseen. My main questions are how and why?
21 posted on 12/02/2003 11:15:10 PM PST by Aria
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To: servantoftheservant
I have had dreams that have later occurred.

So have I! The most unusual one involved a game of Master Mind that I was playing with a friend. In the dream, tired of being beaten he simply cheats and makes random responses to my moves. After I figure out that no setup is possible to match his answers I remove the shield to find nothing there. Sure enough I find myself repeating the dream in reality and boldly announce to my friend. "I know you are cheating but through the help of a dream I will still get the correct answer: which is you have nothing at all behind that shield!" Knocking the shield away before he could do anything it revealed just what the dream had predicted. No pegs , no colors, simply nothing!

22 posted on 12/02/2003 11:16:02 PM PST by Nateman (Socialism first, cancer second.)
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To: Billthedrill
Yea, I agree. I am a lawyer and worked with very bright people who did very well in school, but truly most barely manage to keep their heads afloat in the office world.

By a wide margin, most of the attys I have known and worked closely with (several hundred in the toughest lawyer market in the USA, NYC) are dull individuals, much more interested in avoiding blame and passing the buck, than doing anything of merit. It's not their fault - it's a symptom of the system they are in.

That being said, independent of that, I would not trust most of these Ivy School geniuses to balance a checkbook. I certainly don't trust any to watch my back.

The smartest man I know is still my dad, though. Could he write a killer brief for court in a 3-day weekend? Nope. Could he smell trouble, a phony, a racket, a waste of time, from 100 miles away? You bet!

I like to think he taught me that. So far, I've done ok! ;-)
23 posted on 12/02/2003 11:21:35 PM PST by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: Yossarian
Matter of fact, I'd have to rule them in, and if a guy like me is ruling them in, there must be a scientifically explainable phenomenon.

You forgot the Q.E.D.

24 posted on 12/02/2003 11:26:15 PM PST by monkey
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To: LibWhacker
Oh, I did have a dream about the lottery numbers once. So I played them. None of them came up.

Still, you dreamed the very numbers you ended up playing. So you did dream the future. Hmm...

25 posted on 12/02/2003 11:28:23 PM PST by monkey
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To: monkey
LOL. That's true. With my perfect 0 for 6 record, I'm hoping next time I dream about 42 numbers . . . You know, the ones that won't come up?
26 posted on 12/02/2003 11:34:07 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: Nateman; Aria
Fascinating. I've only met one other person who has had a similar experience, again something mundane. It's exciting to hear both of your accounts.

I'm encouraged to see scientific professionals acknowledge subtle phenomena and try to incorporate it in their universal models.

27 posted on 12/02/2003 11:45:44 PM PST by servantoftheservant
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To: LibWhacker
With my perfect 0 for 6 record

I had a dream last night that LibWhacker will go 0 for 7 in lottery picks.
28 posted on 12/02/2003 11:58:43 PM PST by lelio
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To: mikegi
I've been waiting for this.

When I was in college in the 60's, us physics majors had a favorite saying: "Chemistry is becoming physics, biology is becoming chemistry, psychology is becoming biology, religion is becoming psychology, and dope is becoming religion".

Since then, I have been awaiting the magical moment when the circle is completed, and physics becomes dope.

I see we have now arrived at that exalted state of affairs.

29 posted on 12/03/2003 12:12:05 AM PST by fire_eye (All leftists appear identical, when viewed through an ACOG...)
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To: general_re
Thanks for the ping. I'll dig into this a bit later in the day.
30 posted on 12/03/2003 3:58:36 AM PST by PatrickHenry (Hic amor, haec patria est.)
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To: Yossarian
I think the mistake is to say physics has hit rock bottom: more correctly i'd say it has hit a brick wall, an impasse. The future of physics, the really wild theories that will be the bedrock of science say 200 years from now, are IMHO hiding in some of what most people would consider the bizarre stuff.

An example is Roger Penrose's ideas, or Hameroff of the U of Arizona's theories on who the brain works... very elegant theory that ties in a lot of really esoteric stuff!

31 posted on 12/03/2003 4:04:23 AM PST by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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To: servantoftheservant
"warning dreams" are very real. I've had numerous ones, including 9/11. I'd told a friend the week before that I had a dream of a south NYC building collapsing, with a single hand sticking out of the rubble and some stuff about a subway system with wreckage.

She reminded me about the dream right after 9/11.

Creepy stuff, but it's real.
32 posted on 12/03/2003 4:10:36 AM PST by Monty22
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To: servantoftheservant
I have had dreams that have later occurred. Nothing spectacular....for example, dreaming of being in a mall, and then going to visit a relative in a town I've never been to and going to the mall I dreamed about. Freaked me out the first time it happened.

I had a dream that an old lady I knew was going to die. She did, that night, right at about the time I had the dream. She said goodbye in my dream.

33 posted on 12/03/2003 4:17:27 AM PST by Trickyguy
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To: Consort
A theory of everything has to include...........everything.

Well, my theory of everything includes everything except flightless waterfowl.

This doesn't make any sense.

Wait a minute. I see the problem--I forgot to carry the two.

34 posted on 12/03/2003 4:23:26 AM PST by Poohbah ("Beware the fury of a patient man" -- John Dryden)
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To: mikegi
All one needs to do to see a ‘mental vacuum state’ firsthand is attend any meeting of the local democrats political committee, NOW chapter, MMM, ACLU, or any one of the dozens of other liberal/leftist groups.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

35 posted on 12/03/2003 4:26:11 AM PST by Joe Brower ("If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face, forever." - G. Orwell)
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To: mikegi
Has physics hit rock bottom???

Since there's apparently only one physicist saying this right now, at worst you can ask, "has Brian Josephson hit rock bottom?"

As for superstring theory, what is your basis for calling it "sillystrings"? If you've found some mathematical flaw in it, by all means, publish.

36 posted on 12/03/2003 4:29:08 AM PST by Physicist
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To: chilepepper
I've thought about these things alot. As a result, I'm never surprised when we get another "New particle discovered in Tokyo" thread.

As long as they look for new particles, they will find new particles. Of course some of them may turn out to be the same old particles that seem to appear different because we're looking at them in a new way.

For most of my life, I held great hopes that physics could really tell us about the nature of reality. Those hopes have decreased very greatly.

Remember Newtonian mechanics? The clockwork universe ideas? The concept that if we knew all the particles positions and velocities, we could deduce what had happened in the past and predict what will happen.

While Newtons theories have been somewhat supplanted by Einstein et al, there is still a kind of "truth" to them as what science is really all about is cause and effect.

Imagine by some miracle we woke up tomorrow with reems and reems of paper in front of us, each particles position and velocity printed on it. The whole universe.

So we start looking at it.. and looking... and looking. Doesn't make much sense.

We look for evidence of anything we know about. A sunset. A tear. A planet or waterfall.

Nothing. Nada. No way can we relate any of the info on the pages to what we experience in normal life.

Because what the universe is about is PATTERNS not BUILDING BLOCKS.

Here's another example. We've all heard the "butterfly" theory that says that a butterfly somewhere either decides to take of or not, and his decision effects the weather somewhere distant.

I do no dispute this theory AS A THEORY.

But if it rains some afternoon, and two raindrops hit me in the head, then where is the butterfly? Is there one? I defy anyone to give me any evidence whatever that a butterfly had anything to do with it. And when you inspect things closely, you start to wonder whether the butterfly effect may in fact BE A MYTH.

Why?

Because any effect it might have is probably lost in the thermal and quantum "noise".

Physics needs a much bigger picture of the universe.
37 posted on 12/03/2003 4:31:28 AM PST by djf
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To: Consort
A theory of everything has to include...........everything.

Everything fundamental, that is. A "theory of everything" doesn't have to include chemistry, for example, because all of that is an application of quantum electrodynamics. And all of biology is an application of chemistry.

38 posted on 12/03/2003 4:34:40 AM PST by Physicist
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To: HitmanNY
Sounds like my wife. Not as booksmart as I am, but man can she tell when someone is lying, even being a little disengenuous. It's freaky as anything.

Of course, she grew up in a REALLY bad neighborhood, so her 'street smarts' were well developed.
39 posted on 12/03/2003 4:37:36 AM PST by ovrtaxt ( http://www.fairtax.org * Centrist Republicans are the semi-colons of the political keyboard.)
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To: Monty22
I had a dream of a passenger jet hovering over a field near my house, then exploding. There was an emotion of alarm and panic when it happened. I woke up, wide awake. A month later, 9-11 happened.
40 posted on 12/03/2003 4:39:52 AM PST by ovrtaxt ( http://www.fairtax.org * Centrist Republicans are the semi-colons of the political keyboard.)
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To: Monty22
Now that I think about it, I wonder if Howard Dean is gonna accuse us of being tipped off about 9-11?
41 posted on 12/03/2003 4:42:17 AM PST by ovrtaxt ( http://www.fairtax.org * Centrist Republicans are the semi-colons of the political keyboard.)
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To: Yossarian
Deja vu is pretty well documented even if little understood.
42 posted on 12/03/2003 4:48:59 AM PST by R. Scott
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To: general_re
Now that I've read the article, I think the only way to preserve my sanity is to abandon thread!
43 posted on 12/03/2003 8:24:32 AM PST by PatrickHenry (Hic amor, haec patria est.)
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To: mikegi
Physics hasn't hit rock bottom; Josephson has. He's sort of the Michael Cimono of physics; he makes a repuatation for himself with genuinely impressive achievment, but then torpedoes it with a self-indulgent fantasy which everyone but him recognizes as boondoggle, and has spent the rest of his career living it down.
44 posted on 12/03/2003 10:17:48 AM PST by RightWingAtheist ("Josephson junction, what's your function?")
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To: PatrickHenry
I don't have time to debunk all the nonsense going on here myself (C'mon guys, I expect this from the DUmmies, but not from the FReople!), but here's an appropriate cartton to cheer you up. You might want to save it, and use it whenever something pseudoscientific like this comes up:


45 posted on 12/03/2003 10:24:15 AM PST by RightWingAtheist ("Josephson junction, what's your function?")
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To: lelio
You're psychic!!! :-)
46 posted on 12/03/2003 12:04:53 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: Yossarian
I've had first hand experience with predicting dice throws.
It doesn't occur on demand, but when it comes up it has been perfectly accurate on several occasions. If only I had been in Reno at the time...
47 posted on 12/03/2003 12:22:10 PM PST by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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To: mikegi
I think he also said guns aren't useful for self-defense.
48 posted on 12/03/2003 12:29:24 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: RightWingAtheist
I don't have time to debunk all the nonsense going on here myself...

All the recounting of deja vu here is not nonsense - it's reality. I happened to me once as a teenager, and I've never forgotten it.

49 posted on 12/03/2003 1:11:22 PM PST by jimt
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To: RightWingAtheist
I don't have time to debunk all the nonsense going on here myself

What nonsense? Do you have some pre-defined idea of the experiences 'FReople' should and shouldn't have? You can't control people's experiences. If people are having these experiences and you can't accomodate them, then there is a hole in your world view. Or you can just shut your eyes and plug your ears and pretend that you know everything.

50 posted on 12/03/2003 5:20:36 PM PST by servantoftheservant
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