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Polygamy a new legal right? Supreme Court decision opening sexual Pandora's box
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Wednesday, December 3, 2003 | Joseph Farah

Posted on 12/02/2003 10:45:08 PM PST by JohnHuang2

Polygamy a new legal right?

Posted: December 3, 2003
1:00 a.m. Eastern

© 2003 WorldNetDaily.com

When the U.S. Supreme Court struck down Texas' sodomy law, dissenting Justice Antonin Scalia warned the court and the public where the decision would lead.

He predicted that polygamists organizing around the same legal language employed by the homosexual activists would make the case they, too, have civil rights to do what they wish in the privacy of their own homes.

It didn't take long for his legal prophecy to be fulfilled.

A lawyer for a Utah man with five wives argued this week that his bigamy convictions should be thrown because of the Supreme Court decision in the sodomy case.

There is no compelling state interest in discouraging polygamy, argued Tom Green's attorney, John Bucher, to the Utah Supreme Court. Therefore, polygamists should be permitted to practice their beliefs without interference from the government.

It's hard to argue with the logic given the U.S. Supreme Court's unfortunate ruling last summer.

In fact, all Utah could muster as an argument in response was that the court should reject the appeal because Green failed to raise the issue during his trial more than two years ago or anywhere else along the judicial path since then. Of course he didn't. The legal argument was as preposterous then as it is now.

But while I oppose polygamy, it's hard to understand why Tom Green should sit in prison while the U.S. Supreme Court strikes down sodomy laws.

Green, who is not affiliated with any church, was convicted of four counts of bigamy. Besides his 5-year sentence, he faces up to life in prison after being convicted of child rape for having sex with one of his five wives when she was 13.

But consent laws are on their way out, too. In fact, some states have already lowered the age of consent to 13. And aren't such laws just archaic hand-me-downs from an earlier era of outdated religious scruples?

If it's a matter of demand, as some homosexual activists have argued, it should be pointed out that polygamy has an estimated 30,000 practitioners in the West.

This is the trouble you have when unelected men and women in black robes think they are wiser than the people – wiser than the legislatures that are specifically charged with making laws in our republican system of limited, representative government.

The U.S. Supreme Court determined, by a 6-3 vote, that we don't live under the rule of law in America. Instead, we have a "living Constitution" that can only be interpreted by the all-knowing, all-seeing, semi-divine arbiters of right and wrong. It determined that lawmakers and representative government are irrelevant.

That's what the court did when, for all intents and purposes, it found hidden in the Constitution a new right – a right to practice homosexual sex.

The author of the majority opinion, Justice Anthony M. Kennedy, said the Texas law struck down by the court "demeans the lives of homosexual persons."

"The state cannot demean their existence or control their destiny by making their private sexual conduct a crime," he wrote.

Oh, no? It may not have been the most sensibly crafted state law on the books, but to say laws about private sexual conduct are unconstitutional, the court, in effect, opened a sexual Pandora's box.

If there is a constitutional right to have homosexual sex, how can one deny there is a constitutional right to group sex? How can one deny there is a constitutional right to consensual incest? How can one deny there is a right to have sex with animals? How can one deny there is a constitutional right to polygamy?

You can't. There is no difference. And that's why there is no constitutional right to homosexual sex – or any other kind of sex for that matter. The word sex doesn't appear in the Constitution. It is a subject not addressed – which is, under the Constitution, precisely why it is a matter left to the various states.

But that's not the way it will be in America in the future. As of last week, we have a new reigning Politburo governing all of America. We have nine infallible, lifetime, unaccountable rulers who know better than the people, better than the states, better than the legislators.

Just 17 years ago, the Supreme Court ruled quite differently on the matter. Then, Chief Justice Warren Burger, hardly a social conservative, wrote "in constitutional terms there is no such thing as a fundamental right to commit homosexual sodomy."

"Decisions of individuals relating to homosexual conduct have been subject to state intervention throughout the history of Western Civilization," Burger wrote. "Condemnation of those practices is firmly rooted in Judeo-Christian moral and ethical standards."

He noted that Sir William Blackstone "described 'the infamous crime against nature' as an offense of 'deeper malignity' than rape, a heinous act 'the very mention of which is a disgrace to human nature,' and 'a crime not fit to be named.' To hold that the act of homosexual sodomy is somehow protected as a fundamental right would be to cast aside millennia of moral teaching."

That's right. And that's just what Burger's successors on the court did. They substituted political correctness for the Constitution. They substituted their feelings for the rule of law.

And, as a result, America may never be the same again.




TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; josephfarah; lawrencevtexas; perversion; polygamy
Wednesday, December 3, 2003

Quote of the Day by WorkingClassFilth

1 posted on 12/02/2003 10:45:09 PM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
...a Utah man with five wives...

This guy is a glutton for punishment.

2 posted on 12/02/2003 10:52:20 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Chilling Effect-1, Global Warming-0)
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To: Jeff Chandler
lol
3 posted on 12/02/2003 11:01:09 PM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
Scalia didn't have to be a prophet for that prediction.
4 posted on 12/02/2003 11:27:07 PM PST by Spirited
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To: JohnHuang2
Hey, if you're gonna allow sodomy, you gotta allow every other sort of perversion. After all, morality is just a phoney Judeo-Christian construct anyway. We need to move on as a progressive society. Separation of church and state and all that, right?

5 posted on 12/02/2003 11:29:32 PM PST by ppaul
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http://www.utahbrewers.com/ads/bigpolygamytrio.jpg>

6 posted on 12/02/2003 11:36:06 PM PST by ppaul
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To: ppaul
Paging Mr. Lot....Paging Mr. Lot.....You have two heavenly visitors at the city gates!
7 posted on 12/02/2003 11:39:39 PM PST by cartoonistx
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To: JohnHuang2
I don't see where the Supreme Crotch will have any difficulty weaseling around this... Sodomy is a private (I hope...) sexual act, whereas polygamy is multiple marriage. The Crotch will rule that marriage is a public act, so they're safe from the consequences of their earlier ruling.

Now, if the guy were to argue that he's being prevented from having sex simultaneously with all of his wives... well, maybe the Crotch would be hard pressed to get out of it...
8 posted on 12/02/2003 11:48:30 PM PST by fire_eye (All leftists appear identical, when viewed through an ACOG...)
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To: fire_eye
You're right, unfortunately. We are dealing with leftists' minds here. They operate on feelings and emotions only; logic is simply beyond them.
9 posted on 12/03/2003 12:15:29 AM PST by Clock King
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To: JohnHuang2
Murderous, vicious, polygamy is a core problem of Islam, IMHO. It mainly consists of older men, under the guise of religion, obtaining young vulnerable girls without their consent. Their whole family system is broken. Polygamy should be outlawed.
10 posted on 12/03/2003 2:55:44 AM PST by tkathy (The islamofascists and the democrats are trying to destroy this country)
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To: Clock King

When polygamy becomes legal so as not to offend the Muslims among us, we can thank Sandra Day O'Connor and David Souter...both Republican appointees to the Supreme Court. Thank God Pres. Reagan is unaware of what a botch he committed with O'Connor's appointment. As for Souter, Geo. Bush 41# nominated him after assuring the Dems that Souter was a blank slate, ideologically speaking, and he has voted with the libs most of the time. The founding fathers unfortunately included life-time appointments to the Court when a life-time was 50 years. The law nees to be changed so that we don't have decades of anti-freedom, anti-God rulings handed down from these great presidential blunders.
11 posted on 12/03/2003 3:08:44 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: JohnHuang2
If there is a constitutional right to have homosexual sex, how can one deny there is a constitutional right to group sex?

The polygamists have a MUCH stronger case than the homosexuals do.

Laws against polygamy, if they are challenged by a smart and dedicated legal team (a big if, fer shure) cannot possibly stand.

I concur, of course, that one wife is more than enough for any sane man.

12 posted on 12/03/2003 3:13:59 AM PST by Jim Noble
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To: kittymyrib
Souter was a blank slate, ideologically speaking, and he has voted with the libs most of the time

Most of the time?

Souter has the most radical leftist voting record of any Associate Justice in the history of the Republic.

13 posted on 12/03/2003 3:16:02 AM PST by Jim Noble
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To: Jim Noble
I agree, and also, striking down laws against polygamy will help bring America down even faster, so it should be a given for the libs.
14 posted on 12/03/2003 3:22:52 AM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get)
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To: Clock King
You're right, unfortunately. We are dealing with leftists' minds here. They operate on feelings and emotions only; logic is simply beyond them.

I think you'd be hard-pressed to find many liberals who think that polygamy should be a legal right.

15 posted on 12/03/2003 5:26:02 AM PST by Pedantic_Lady
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To: Jim Noble
If I am not mistaken, there were only three or so votes against Souter, and I think one may have been former Senator Helms.

The two people most responsible for Souter were then Senator Warren Rudman and Bush I Chief of Staff John Sununu, both NH Republicans.
16 posted on 12/03/2003 5:57:52 AM PST by Theodore R.
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To: JohnHuang2
If there is a constitutional right to have homosexual sex, how can one deny there is a constitutional right to group sex?

It's against the constitution to have group sex now? Darn!

Here's something I don't understand: It's acceptable for a man to have several mistresses, but if heaven forbid, he marries more than one at a time, then that's against the law.

Here's something else I don't understand: It's okay for a woman to give oral sex to a man or to receive anal sex from a man, but if man does the same behaviour, it should be criminalized. Isn't that sex discrimination?

The best way to rid society of polygamy, homosexual behaviour, etc. is to return to the ban on all sexual behaviour outside of marriage (adultery, fornication, anal and oral sex, etc.) and allow only monogamous adult heterosexual couples to marry.

Problem with that is, most people will say, I want to have it my way (extra-marital heterosexual sex of all kinds), but you can't have it your way.

17 posted on 12/03/2003 6:09:51 AM PST by wai-ming
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To: tkathy
Their whole family system is broken. Polygamy should be outlawed.

Which is exactly why it is currently illegal.

Likewise homosexual activity breaks the family system and it should also be illegal

18 posted on 12/03/2003 8:27:56 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: John O
Likewise homosexual activity breaks the family system and it should also be illegal.

Agreed.

Adultery, fornication, co-habitation, etc. also break up the family system and should likewise be illegal.

19 posted on 12/03/2003 4:48:51 PM PST by wai-ming
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To: JohnHuang2
Kennedy's Lawrence decision made a big deal about the case only involving sex between consenting adults, nothing to do with other sex involving others, nothing to do with gay marriage. Then, the very next day after the Lawrence opinions were released, SCOTUS issued an order vacating the sentence of a Kansas court for the sodomization of a (retarded) 14-year-old boy in a state institution, and ordering the Kansas court to reconsider the case in light of Lawrence. Seems SCOTUS does see implications springing from Lawrence, even for homosexual child molestation.
20 posted on 12/03/2003 4:54:27 PM PST by aristeides
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