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Group seeks Prop. 187-like ballot measure
San Diego Union Tribune ^ | December 3, 2003 | Ed Mendel

Posted on 12/03/2003 9:08:00 AM PST by gubamyster

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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Arizona has an initiative going as well

Go Arizona!

21 posted on 12/03/2003 8:13:44 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: GrandMoM
Time and familiar association has created less animosity and more tolerance

Not in my area. Most I know are more pissed off than ever. That was maybe their intention, or agenda, but it didn't happen. Those that want to roll over can head to Hacksaw Arkansas.

This was the will of the people. No one fell asleep. We will abide.

22 posted on 12/03/2003 8:17:29 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: gubamyster
The more taxes I pay and the more illegals that break and enter into my country, the less tolerant I become about my taxes going to pay for benefits for illegals.

That says it all!

23 posted on 12/03/2003 8:18:48 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: DumpsterDiver
Thanks, DD! I'll download lots of petitions. Everyone I know wants this to happen, they're all sick of paying for the open borders fiasco.
24 posted on 12/03/2003 8:29:53 PM PST by janetgreen
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To: gubamyster; Pro-Bush
"This business of trying to pander to one ethnic group or another – that doesn't wash very well with the public," Prince said

Bump!

25 posted on 12/04/2003 5:05:24 AM PST by JustPiper (Teach the Children to fight Liberalism ! They will be voting in 2008 !!!)
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To: JustPiper
This is good. Time to strike while the iron is hot.

Change has to happen at the state level since the federal government is at a stalemate over illegal immigration.

26 posted on 12/04/2003 5:13:05 AM PST by Missouri
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To: gubamyster
Proposition 187 was passed by voters in 1994 after a divisive campaign, but was struck down in court because of a conflict with federal law.

Do any of the Freeper legal types know exactly what the "conflict" was?
Has anything changed since then to expect a different outcome?

Other than the 9th Circus Court, is there anything preventing its implementation?

27 posted on 12/04/2003 5:16:13 AM PST by Publius6961 (40% of Californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks.)
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To: Publius6961
I had the impression that the ruling claimed California was overstepping its authority on federal matters (immigration). Or, maybe she said CA didn't have authority to determine who was/wasn't legally here.
28 posted on 12/04/2003 5:33:01 AM PST by heleny
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To: Publius6961
BTTT
29 posted on 12/04/2003 6:15:12 AM PST by GrandMoM ("Without prayer, the hand of GOD stops, BUT, with prayer the hand of GOD moves !!!)
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To: Publius6961
Do any of the Freeper legal types know exactly what the "conflict" was?

Ron Prince was on John & Ken (KFI 640) yesterday. He stated that the original Prop 187 banned illegals from education & health care. This new prop would not have those restrictions & basically compelled the state of CA to conform to Federal laws.

He indicated they knew of the problems with the original Prop 187 & designed it to challenge earlier Supreme Court rulings on banning illegals from education. Since this new prop does not have the education & health care restrictions, he does not see how it can loose if challenged in court.

30 posted on 12/04/2003 9:10:50 AM PST by gubamyster
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