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Vince Foster: What the Media Won’t Tell You
NewsMax.com ^ | 12/04/03

Posted on 12/04/2003 4:33:52 AM PST by kattracks

Major media outlets reported Wednesday on the Supreme Court hearing of California lawyer Allan Favish's case that government photographs of Vincent Foster’s death scene be released for public viewing. The media report that no fewer than five investigations have found that Foster committed suicide because he was depressed. But despite 10 years of denial by the major media, the Foster case has not “closed” – as the Supreme Court hearing Wednesday demonstrated.

The case won’t close because of the failure of authorities to make full disclosure – and to conduct a full investigation into the case, including a complete autopsy.

Vince Foster was not only deputy White House counsel but also the personal attorney to Bill and Hillary Clinton.

On the night of Foster’s death, top Clinton aides made a frantic effort to enter and remove documents from his West Wing office. In the days that followed, federal investigators were stymied in their investigation of Foster’s office and strange death.

Since Foster’s July 1993 death, the facts of his death have been obfuscated by friends of Bill and Hillary in the major media, but here’s the undeniable truth:

There weren’t “five” investigations into Foster’s death, as the media report. The Park Police, best known for their meter and horse patrols around Washington, were put in charge of the initial death inquiry of the most important federal official to die suspiciously since President Kennedy. The Park Police, contradicting standard procedure, declared the death a suicide before launching their inquiry.

The FBI never officially investigated the case but simply signed off on the Park Police “probe.” The bureau had little choice. The day before Foster’s death, Bill Clinton hurriedly fired the director of the FBI, William Sessions. Sessions later charged that Clinton had “politicized” the bureau.

Later, Robert Fiske, selected by Clinton’s counsel Bernie Nussbaum and Janet Reno, quickly confirmed the Park Police probe as a suicide.

But when Ken Starr entered the investigation, he reopened the case. His chief prosecutor in the case, Miquel Rodriguez, later quit the Starr investigation, claiming that Starr’s staff was engaging in a cover-up of Foster’s death.

Rodriguez, a Harvard-educated federal prosecutor, argued that one of the Polaroid photos taken of Foster at the crime scene indicated an additional wound on Foster’s neck – never noted on the autopsy report. Favish’s suit before the Supreme Court is seeking to release this photo, among others.

No fewer than three of the paramedics on the scene indicated in reports or testimony that the crime scene was consistent with a murder scene, not a suicide.

A careful FBI microscopic investigation of Foster’s shoes found not a trace of soil or grass stains on them, though he supposedly walked several hundred yards through wooded Fort Marcy Park to where his body was found. [Years later, Starr’s investigation found plenty of soil and grass stains. Rodriguez charged that the shoes were tampered with to produce such “evidence.”]

Foster was found with little blood around his body – and despite claims that he fired the gun into his mouth, practically no blood was found on the front of his shirt.

Foster was found with a 1913 revolver no one in his family could claim, with two serial numbers, made from the parts of three or more guns. None of Foster’s fingerprints were found on the gun.

The bullet that supposedly killed Foster was never found, despite intensive searches.

Despite claims to the contrary, no one who knew Foster, including Hillary, Web Hubbell and his own wife, saw signs of depression.

A so-called suicide note was found in an office briefcase that had been searched and found to be empty after Foster’s death. The note was torn into 27 pieces. Yet an FBI examination found no trace of Foster’s fingerprints on the note and a top Oxford handwriting expert found the note to be an “obvious” forgery.

Despite the enormity of the case, Foster’s autopsy lasted an astounding 45 minutes. The coroner in the case had previously been overruled in other cases he declared “suicides” that were later found to be murders.

All of the X-rays taken during the autopsy are missing.

Complete crime scene photos don’t exist. The Park Police said all the photos were “accidentally” overexposed. A series of close-up Polaroids, which Favish is suing for, remain. This is just a brief summary of the dozens of inconsistencies in the case. Two New York homicide investigators who looked into the case concluded that Foster’s body had been moved to the crime scene and that murder could not be ruled out.

Despite overwhelming evidence of a cover-up, the media won’t question the official ruling.

Ken Starr, who could find no criminal wrongdoing on the part of the Clintons during his “intensive” probe, confirmed a ruling of suicide. Starr even hired O.J. Simpson’s defense expert to prove his case.

If ever there were a case for public disclosure of government records and photos, it’s the Vince Foster case. The high court should decide in Allan Favish’s favor.



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To: archy
What's your take?
41 posted on 12/04/2003 10:45:30 AM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: kattracks
I am certain that VF did not die in that park.

Thanks for the post.

42 posted on 12/04/2003 11:13:21 AM PST by Triple (All forms of socialism deny individuals the right to the fruits of their labor)
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To: Shooter 2.5
She believes the gun found at the park was the one that came from his father's collection.

Sure she did...after the requisite amount of "coaching" by the FBI, Bernie Nussbaum, and others in La Cosa Klinton.

If anyone cares to think woman are so stupid they don't know silver from black, nickled from blued, auto from revolver, so be it.

If you believe ANYTHING that came from the La Cosa Klinton admin...let alone the pressured widow, so be it!

Her "testimony" verus those there on the scene, AND the records...I know where I stand.

43 posted on 12/04/2003 11:18:03 AM PST by Itzlzha (The avalanche has already started...it is too late for the pebbles to vote!)
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To: thesummerwind
OK, I'll play. Why?
44 posted on 12/04/2003 11:46:30 AM PST by Mpatl
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To: Kenny Bunk
Newsflash: Martha Washington will serve time before Hillary Clinton.

LOL........You're most likely correctamundo. The Cubs and the Redsox will win the World Series before Hillary feels the heat.

LOL!

45 posted on 12/04/2003 11:54:18 AM PST by thesummerwind (like painted skies, those days and nights, they went flyin' by)
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To: Kenny Bunk
O by the way, on an entirely unrelated topic, of course the woman is a criminal and guilty as hell.

LOL, again!

46 posted on 12/04/2003 11:55:33 AM PST by thesummerwind (like painted skies, those days and nights, they went flyin' by)
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To: Mpatl
OK, I'll play. Why?

I was expecting you to answer.........just kidding.

Well, since Livingsone and Kennedy came to the building in two cars and had to (or chose to) leave in just one car, there is a possibility that, in their haste to shove a set of keys into Vince's pocket (like the Keystone Cops) one of them shoved one of their own sets of keys in Vince's pocket by mistake.

Nah! But why did they leave in only one car?

One of life's mysteries.

47 posted on 12/04/2003 12:02:31 PM PST by thesummerwind (like painted skies, those days and nights, they went flyin' by)
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To: thesummerwind
How do you know they left in one car?
48 posted on 12/04/2003 12:21:55 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: Itzlzha
The only fact I see staring you in the face is a minor little detail in this whole saga and you still want to cling to a Black/Silver gun issue.

If you can't get some minor comment like this right, you lost the entire controversy.

Wow, imagine the inability of someone who can't conceive of the possibility of a person owning more than one handgun. Somehow I'm not surprised.
49 posted on 12/04/2003 12:32:37 PM PST by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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To: Nita Nupress
Just as guess............Well, since Livingsone and Kennedy came to the building in two cars and had to (or chose to) leave in just one car, there is a possibility that, in their haste to shove a set of keys into Vince's pocket (like the Keystone Cops) one of them shoved one of their own sets of keys in Vince's pocket by mistake. Nah! But why did they leave in only one car?

Whadaya think?

50 posted on 12/04/2003 12:33:54 PM PST by thesummerwind (like painted skies, those days and nights, they went flyin' by)
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To: OXENinFLA
see post # 50.

Or, maybe thaey just wanted to go off to the park and eat some burgers together.

I'm just guessing.

51 posted on 12/04/2003 12:36:34 PM PST by thesummerwind (like painted skies, those days and nights, they went flyin' by)
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To: yoe
Get this! I even wonder if Ken Starr didn't intentionally not find anything at all, and if he wasn't just a Clinton/Reno plant to begin with. I read somewhere that the White House cheered when he was named the SP. Something just stinks about the entire investigation to me.

It seems no one wants to do anything about the obvious crimes of the Clintons, but I am wondering now with all of the little things coming out, drip, drip, drip, if maybe the Justice dept. hasn't been working on this behind the scenes all along to keep this administration out of it. Political fallout for W would be great if he were seen as allowing any investigation of the hero and heroine of liberals. Just a thought.
52 posted on 12/04/2003 12:42:17 PM PST by ladyinred (The Left have blood on their hands!)
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To: TigersEye
Is this the case where the gun in question had a trace run on its serial number a couple of months before VF supposedly used it to off himself?

I recall something to this effect.

Regards,

53 posted on 12/04/2003 12:49:50 PM PST by Triple (All forms of socialism deny individuals the right to the fruits of their labor)
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To: ladyjane
How do you know they left in one car?

page 169, "The Secret Life of Bill Clinton", "The activities of Livingstone and Kennedy on that night do not make sense. They arrived at the morgue seperately. But they left together, driving the twenty miles back to Kennedy's home in Alexandria in the same car."

How's that? Very strange, if you ask me.

54 posted on 12/04/2003 1:07:02 PM PST by thesummerwind (like painted skies, those days and nights, they went flyin' by)
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To: ladyinred
I even wonder if Ken Starr didn't intentionally not find anything at all,.....

Back during the Clinton/Lewinsky saga there were people here who thought
Ken Starr was a clinton stooge. I considered that the
stuff of tin-foil conspiracy theorists......until I found out
about Starr's chi-com connections.
Turns out he and Bill had (have?) the same benefactors.
55 posted on 12/04/2003 4:02:31 PM PST by MamaLucci (Clinton met with a White House intern more than he did with his CIA director)
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To: MamaLucci
Yes, they did have the same benefactors. That and other things make me wonder.
56 posted on 12/04/2003 4:05:41 PM PST by ladyinred (The Left have blood on their hands!)
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To: Shooter 2.5
If anyone cares to think woman are so stupid they don't know silver from black, nickled from blued, auto from revolver, so be it.

I agree completely. It is stupid to think Lisa Foster wouldn't know the difference between a silver gun and a black gun.

From the FBI transcript of the interview with Lisa Foster.
lf=Lisa Foster vf=Vince Foster lr=Little Rock:

as lf was packing in lr to come to dc, found gun. sharon asked for a handgun, lf gave it to her. lf packed a silver colored gun in lr, unpacked it in d.c. vf saw it and exclaimed. lf has no conver w/ vf re brinGing gun to dc but she

lf knew location of a gun and found it still there on 7/20/93. It was not the silver gun. lf thinks the vf gun may be the silver gun she brought up

This commentary is from the website:

This set of notes verifies what was reported in the FBI file. Lisa Foster thinks that the gun found with Vincent Foster is the silver gun she herself brought up to Washington D.C.

That would appear to be true enough from my reading of the transcript ... yet:

Here is a Park Police report describing the gun as black.

Here are Park Police photos of a black gun.

This page has a couple of real nice photos of the official "death gun" in the VF case. Like this one:

There's nothing quite like this picture from ABC News of a black gun in VF's cold dead (completely unstained) hand.

I don't see anywhere that Lisa Foster says her husband had been depressed but she did say this to the FBI about the alleged suicide note:

was written on or about 7/11/93. 7/4 - 7/20 somewhere in there - a lot of kids in house. lf asked vf to go to the ?????; he declined. lf sugg. vf write down everything "they" did wrong. lf told him to go on the offensive. vf agreed, sat up, seemed energized- "haven't resigned yet" vf said he had already written his opening argument. lf thinks that's what the note is.

As a complete aside to the silver/black gun issue I find this quote by a good Clinton friend very interesting:

"Don't believe a word you hear. It was not suicide. It couldn't have been." -Assistant Attorney General Webster Hubbell, 7/20/93, cited in Esquire, 11/93.


57 posted on 12/04/2003 4:06:31 PM PST by TigersEye ("Where there is life there is hope!" - Terri Schindler Schiavo)
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To: Itzlzha
Shooter 2.5 She believes the gun found at the park was the one that came from his father's collection.

Itzlzha Sure she did...after the requisite amount of "coaching" by the FBI, Bernie Nussbaum, and others in La Cosa Klinton.

I don't know what kind of game Shooter is playing here but he has twisted the transcript. She did say what he says above. If you go to the page and paragraph he points to you'll find it.

However in the same transcript she also says she believes the gun VF used was silver. What isn't said in the transcript is what gun or what color of gun the FBI showed her. At the time of these interviews she undeniably believed the gun found on his body, I mean allegedly found on his body, was silver.

58 posted on 12/04/2003 4:35:57 PM PST by TigersEye ("Where there is life there is hope!" - Terri Schindler Schiavo)
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To: Triple
I don't know the answer to your question. I hadn't heard that.
59 posted on 12/04/2003 4:39:04 PM PST by TigersEye ("Where there is life there is hope!" - Terri Schindler Schiavo)
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To: MamaLucci
......until I found out about Starr's chi-com connections.

I hadn't heard that before but wasn't it the Clinton WH that asked for an Independent Counsel. And wasn't it Reno that chose Starr?

60 posted on 12/04/2003 4:41:33 PM PST by TigersEye ("Where there is life there is hope!" - Terri Schindler Schiavo)
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