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CAIR: Paul Harvey Says Islam 'Encourages Killing'(Group Seeks On-Air Apology)
PRNewswire ^ | December 5, 2003 | Staff

Posted on 12/05/2003 6:18:42 AM PST by veronica

Islamic Civil Rights Group Seeks On-Air Apology

WASHINGTON, Dec. 5 /PRNewswire/ -- The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) is calling for an on-air apology from syndicated radio commentator Paul Harvey who said on his Thursday program that Islam "encourages killing."

Harvey, who has 24 million weekly listeners on some 1,600 radio stations in this country and around the world, made that claim during his Thursday noon commentary.

In that segment, Harvey described the bloody nature of cock fight gambling in Iraq and said: "Add to the thirst for blood a religion which encourages killing, and it is entirely understandable if Americans came to this bloody party unprepared."

TO LISTEN TO THE SEGMENT, GO TO: http://www.paulharvey.com/ Click on the Thursday noon program. The section with the offensive quote begins at 6:53. The quote itself begins at 8:25.

"We had hoped that a respected broadcast professional like Mr. Harvey would not join the growing number of Islamophobic hate-mongers in our society," said CAIR Communications Director Ibrahim Hooper. "He falsely attributes to Islam two things that are specifically prohibited by our faith, murder and cruelty to animals." (Islam also prohibits gambling.)

Hooper quoted the Prophet Muhammad, who said one of the "biggest of (the great sins)" is "to murder a human being." (Sahih Al-Bukhari, 9:10) He also cited the Quran, Islam's revealed text, which states that when someone takes another's life, "it would be as if he slew all mankind." (Quran, 5:32)

On animal cruelty, the Prophet said: "A woman was punished [by God] because of a cat. She had neither provided it with food nor drink, nor set it free so that it might eat the creatures of the earth." (Sahih Muslim, Hadith 1047)

In another tradition related by the Prophet, a man was rewarded by God for helping a thirsty animal. The man, who had just climbed down a well to get water for himself, saw a dog panting and licking mud because of excessive thirst. He went down the well again and filled his shoe with water for the dog. God thanked him for that deed and forgave his sins.

After relating that story, the Prophet was asked: "Is there a reward for us in serving animals?" He replied: "Yes, there is a reward for serving any (living being)." (Sahih Al-Bukhari, 3:646)

In other Islamic traditions, the Prophet prohibited capturing young birds because of the distress caused to their mother, and rebuked his companions who burnt an ant hill.

Hooper also cited the Quran, which says: "There is no beast that walks on earth and no bird that flies on its two wings that is not [God's] creature ... Unto their Sustainer shall they [all] be gathered." (Quran, 6:38)

In 1999, Harvey issued an on-air apology to Muslims for remarks suggesting that Islam was a "fraudulent religion." The apology came after hundreds of concerned Muslims called, faxed and e-mailed both Harvey's office and that of ABC Radio Networks, his program's syndicator.

CAIR, America's largest Islamic civil liberties group, is headquartered in Washington, D.C., and has 25 regional offices and chapters nationwide and in Canada.

CONTACT: Ibrahim Hooper, 202-488-8787 or 202-744-7726, E-Mail: cair@cair-net.org; Rabiah Ahmed, 202-488-8787 or 202-439-1441, E-Mail: rahmed@cair-net.org

NOTE: CAIR offers an e-mail list designed to be a journalist's window to the American Muslim community. Subscribers to the list, called ISLAM-INFONET, receive news releases and other materials dealing with American Muslim positions on issues of importance to our society.

To SUBSCRIBE to or UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, go to: http://cair.biglist.com/islam-infonet/


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ageofliberty; cair; enemywithin; hatespeech; islamicdemocracy; paulharvey; religionofpieces; terrorist
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Another day, another whine by CAIR.
1 posted on 12/05/2003 6:18:42 AM PST by veronica
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Source should include - BizYahoo.com.
2 posted on 12/05/2003 6:22:30 AM PST by veronica (I just realised I have a perfect part for you in Terminator 2....)
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To: veronica
Mr Hooper is very busy these days: seeking an apology from Dr Laura, suing a Congressman from North Carolina, and now going after Paul Harvey.
3 posted on 12/05/2003 6:25:21 AM PST by Rummyfan
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To: veronica
The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) is calling for an on-air apology from syndicated radio commentator Paul Harvey who said on his Thursday program that Islam "encourages killing."

Paul Harvey should apologize...unless he can come up with any examples of Islam "encouraging killing." Something like Islamics flying airplanes into towers, or blowing up civilians, or anything like that. Maybe he could do an internet search and see if he can find any examples...

4 posted on 12/05/2003 6:29:53 AM PST by Onelifetogive
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To: Onelifetogive
Yeah how about the lady in Israel yesterday that got beaten for not blowing herself up?
5 posted on 12/05/2003 6:31:20 AM PST by doodad
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To: veronica
If I've said it once I've mentioned it a million times......
"ISLAM TO THE SWORD
&
THE SWORD TO ISLAM"

No thats not what I said.....it was more like:

"No Islam = No terrorism".

6 posted on 12/05/2003 6:41:30 AM PST by S.O.S121.500 ("Just gag me with a three-skegged surf board!".....(Sorry, Bob Hardy Jr. -- wherever you are))
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To: veronica
Dear Mr. Harvey,

Islam is not a violent religion. If you do not apologize, we will kill you, your family, all your friends, anyone in your neighborhood, your banker, doctor, stock broker, high school teachers and gardener. Islam is a religion of peace.

Thanks for your attention,
CAIR

7 posted on 12/05/2003 6:43:04 AM PST by Blue Screen of Death (,/i)
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To: Onelifetogive
I believe the Koran says you can enslave your non-Muslim enemies; I heard this if anyone can validate. If so, why the heck would Blacks in America be so interested in the Islamic faith? I mean, if the main "operating manual" for your religion says slavery is AOK, why would Black Americans be alright with it?

We traded swords with some Jehovah's Witnesses once. Of course, like the Muslim faith, they come in with a pitch on how simliar their Truth is to Christian Truth. But all the things under the surface (Christ is really the Archangel Micheal, no Trinity, no Heaven, etc.) is never mentioned until you are deeper into the faith. Same with the Muslims...there are all kinds of things "in the book" that are never addressed to the outside observer. I think we should all read the Koran, for the simple reason of understanding what the book says, and being ready to refute it.

[Sort of Subject Change]

Glenn Beck said yesterday that he has read "Mein Kampf" because he wanted to understand how perfectly normal, good-intentioned human beings could arrive at the point they don't bat an eye while trucks full of people pass their front door on the way to the concentration camps. Be aware of what the other guy thinks, and when he says, "Mine is the 'religion of peace", call him out.

8 posted on 12/05/2003 6:43:57 AM PST by 50sDad ("You used ALL THE GLUE on PURPOSE! It's a MAJOR AWARD!")
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To: veronica
First Mr. Harvey in our society has what we believe to be a God given right of liberty and the ability to follow his own convictions and beliefs--something not found in orthodox Muslim societies, like Saudi Arabia where conversion to Christianity is a crime.

Secong the Koran's prohibition of murder seems to be ignored by terrorists who wantonly take thousands of innocent lives in the name of their Islamic religion. Where is their condemnation of the attack on the World trade Center???

9 posted on 12/05/2003 6:44:02 AM PST by The Great RJ
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To: veronica
I think it's time to write cair a letter.
10 posted on 12/05/2003 6:49:08 AM PST by Bikers4Bush
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To: veronica
Instead of saying Islam "encourages killing," perhaps Mr. Harvey should have said, "Islam encourages serial killing."
11 posted on 12/05/2003 6:49:12 AM PST by tkathy (The islamofascists and the democrats are trying to destroy this country)
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To: The Great RJ
Koran's prohibition of murder

That's in the early or first portion of this book. The latter portion superceeds the first portion. As ole mo got more tribesmen and swords to destroy those who would not call him a scholar and a profit. The later portions says even the rocks and bushes will help you kill Jews. There is no peace in this religion only submission.
12 posted on 12/05/2003 6:51:53 AM PST by BabsC
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To: AnnaZ
Inverted World ping!


13 posted on 12/05/2003 6:56:49 AM PST by diotima
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To: 50sDad
I mean, if the main "operating manual" for your religion says slavery is AOK, why would Black Americans be alright with it?Maybe because if they become Muslims, the Koran says they can become the slavemaster.
14 posted on 12/05/2003 7:05:20 AM PST by lady lawyer
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To: lady lawyer
I mean, if the main "operating manual" for your religion says slavery is AOK, why would Black Americans be alright with it?

Maybe because if they become Muslims, the Koran says they can become the slavemasters.

15 posted on 12/05/2003 7:06:48 AM PST by lady lawyer
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To: veronica
It would be nice if once, just once, these groups representing 'mainstream' Muslims would publicly and loudly denounce the radical fundamentalist elements in their religion and take steps to isolate them.

Perhaps they know that if they did, they might get killed, in the name of Islam of course.

16 posted on 12/05/2003 7:08:11 AM PST by ExpatCanuck
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To: veronica
"We had hoped that a respected broadcast professional like Mr. Harvey would not join the growing number of Islamophobic hate-mongers in our society,"

Well I for one have given up hope that Islam would not remain the principal Judeophobic and Christainophobic hate mongering religion. They preach hatred and then when anyone bravely points it out, they are called a hate-monger.

17 posted on 12/05/2003 7:09:49 AM PST by P-Marlowe
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To: lady lawyer
Ding-Ding-Ding-Ding-Ding!!
18 posted on 12/05/2003 7:12:21 AM PST by 50sDad ("You used ALL THE GLUE on PURPOSE! It's a MAJOR AWARD!")
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To: ExpatCanuck
I saw a post on FR just today where a Muslim leader said that there are two brands of Islam; one which embraces violence as means to an end and pursues a mindless fundamentalism. The other is more peaceful. These forms of Islam are at war around the world.

Isn't that sufficient condemnation?
19 posted on 12/05/2003 7:19:05 AM PST by Little Ray (When in trouble, when in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout!)
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To: veronica
Why would Paul Harvey think that Islam is a violent religion? Why Islamists haven't killed anybody in over 2 hours! Progress already. Islam-The Religion of Satan

Pray for W and The Truth

20 posted on 12/05/2003 7:21:33 AM PST by bray (The Wicked Witch of NY is Melting!)
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To: veronica
INTREP - if the First Ammendment means anything, it means that someone like Paul Harvey can comment on the public aurways, and mot have to apologize if some group is offended.

STAND FIRM, PAUL

21 posted on 12/05/2003 7:29:35 AM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: veronica
Stand your ground, Paul. We need more people who tell it like it is.
22 posted on 12/05/2003 7:30:09 AM PST by CharliefromKS
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To: Little Ray
Perhaps, if they are actively preaching against the fundamentalism in their mosques, in addition to providing soundbites for reporters. Putting their money where their mouths are, so to speak.
23 posted on 12/05/2003 7:31:30 AM PST by ExpatCanuck
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Paul Harvey is a legendary radio commenator who has won numerous awards for his work. He is a very well respected radio commentator who knows what he's talking about when reporting and commenting on the news. He owes no apology whatsoever.
24 posted on 12/05/2003 7:36:48 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: veronica
bump
25 posted on 12/05/2003 8:00:27 AM PST by jtminton (2Timothy 4:2)
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To: LiteKeeper
Great 1st Ammendment point, LK!
26 posted on 12/05/2003 8:37:48 AM PST by Hegemony Cricket (What's so strange about the bookkeeper from Goodlettsville, Tennessee?)
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To: veronica
Hooper is annoying, I have a very hard time watching him speak. He was asked directly by Jerry Falwell of all people a few months ago how old Mohammed's wife Aisha was when he married her and subsequently consummated the marriage, Hooper flat out denied that she was 6 and 9, respectively. Falwell said it's right there in your hadith and Hooper said he had never seen such a reference in his life. Lying or ignorant? Hooper certainly seems familiar with the Koran in this article, so I bet he's just a little familiar with the hadith as well.
27 posted on 12/05/2003 8:38:14 AM PST by agrace
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To: Bikers4Bush

Hell with a letter, I just called 'em up.

"Ibrahim, where do you get off demanding anyone apologize for saying anything in this land of free speech? Go to hell"
28 posted on 12/05/2003 8:57:55 AM PST by BabaOreally
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To: veronica
Hmmm.. so Honor killings aren't part of Islam... interesting, they only seem to be occurring routinely by Muslims... and Islam has from its founding and still to this day encourages "conversion" under threat of death... or maybe you just conviently ignore the slaughter of Jews and Christians and others at the Hands of muslim "missionaries" throughout the world!


Sorry CAIR, you clean up your own house before you tell me how to take care of mine.
29 posted on 12/05/2003 9:00:39 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: veronica
An Islamic group crying out against hate mongers? Now that is the pot calling the kettle black!
30 posted on 12/05/2003 9:03:17 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: veronica
Arabs buy a lot of Dux beds and Bose Wave Radios?
31 posted on 12/05/2003 9:05:20 AM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: veronica

CAIR, Tell me some more damned lies about your oh so peaceful religion!


32 posted on 12/05/2003 9:07:04 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: 50sDad
I believe the Koran says you can enslave your non-Muslim enemies; I heard this if anyone can validate. If so, why the heck would Blacks in America be so interested in the Islamic faith? I mean, if the main "operating manual" for your religion says slavery is AOK, why would Black Americans be alright with it?

Think about it. It's called the revenge factor.

33 posted on 12/05/2003 9:10:49 AM PST by BSunday (I'm not the bad guy. Hillary is.)
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To: tkathy
'Instead of saying Islam "encourages killing," perhaps Mr. Harvey should have said, "Islam encourages serial killing."'

It strikes me that it is real hard for a homocide bomber to be a serial killer. Mass murderer perhaps, but not serial killer.
34 posted on 12/05/2003 9:10:55 AM PST by Geritol (Lord willing, there will be a later...)
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To: veronica
My wife and I stopped listening to Paul Harvey last year because of his strong promotion of feminism. But this news suggests he still maintains some conservative perspectives.
35 posted on 12/05/2003 9:17:26 AM PST by Stop Legal Plunder
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To: veronica
My tag says it all...
36 posted on 12/05/2003 9:18:09 AM PST by CommandoFrank (Peer into the depths of hell and there is the face of Islam!)
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To: veronica
Interesting that when leading muslim clerics in "Palestine" praise baby-targeting killers on official Arab radio, no condemnation escapes Mr. Hooper's lips. He certainly does not call them "Jew-hating Israelo-phobes." Why would he? Those clerics are his pals.
37 posted on 12/05/2003 9:20:08 AM PST by cookcounty
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To: Little Ray
"I saw a post on FR just today where a Muslim leader said that there are two brands of Islam; one which embraces violence as means to an end and pursues a mindless fundamentalism. The other is more peaceful. These forms of Islam are at war around the world."


First, I thought I read somewhere that there were 4 main bodies of islamist philosophy, not that I know what the names are. If there is one well defined, recognized variety of islam that is homocidal in nature and is actively opposed by other variants of islam, should we start calling that variant by name instead of condemning all islam with a broad brush? If it is shiite, or wahabbism (however it is called and spelled, or some other specific "dialect" X of islam, can we start specifically saying "X, a religion of Peace" instead of islam?

In addition, should we start calling on the other flavors of islam to specifically denounce this violent flavor?
38 posted on 12/05/2003 9:21:03 AM PST by Geritol (Lord willing, there will be a later...)
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To: veronica
Mr. Harvey should use this latest CAIR attack on him as an excuse to investigate them for an on-air expose.

If anyone has any contacts with the show (e.g. a phone =), please convey this suggestion to Mr. Harvey.

39 posted on 12/05/2003 9:26:59 AM PST by Stop Legal Plunder
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To: veronica

The RELIGION OF PEACE my ass!

40 posted on 12/05/2003 9:29:38 AM PST by PISANO (God Bless our Troops........They will not TIRE - They will not FALTER - They will not FAIL!!!!!)
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To: veronica
The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) is calling for an on-air apology...

This will continue until the leftists -- including the sexual polymorph advocates -- achieve their goal of making "hate speech" illegal. At that point, they won't ask for an apology; they'll just call for prosecution. It's already happened in Canada...

41 posted on 12/05/2003 9:29:58 AM PST by Stop Legal Plunder
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To: 50sDad
" I believe the Koran says you can enslave your non-Muslim enemies; I heard this if anyone can validate. "

Yes. And killing non-muslims is encouraged, unless they are "people of the Book" (Jews and Christians), in which case their lives are to be spared IF they pay a weekly bribe (called a "djidjia")to the muslim authorities (in my wife's native Morocco, this was done every Thursday).

There are lots of ignorant people out there (including people with PhD's), who say that muslims did not persecute Jews or Christians. According to these ignorant folk (mostly dreamy liberals), having someone come to your house every week and threaten you with "Cash, Conversion or de-Capitation" doesn't qualify as "persecution."

42 posted on 12/05/2003 9:35:42 AM PST by cookcounty
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To: ExpatCanuck
As all Freepers know, media bias is a pretty strong force. Maybe Muslims denouncing the behavior simply is not news worthy. I have read in FR posts about a Saudi cleric (!) saying "We have created a monster" and similar. They do show up from time to time.

I think the inability to actually define factions may be an issue. Sunni, Shiite, Sufi, Wahabbi, what are the brand names of Islam?
43 posted on 12/05/2003 9:47:59 AM PST by Little Ray (When in trouble, when in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout!)
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To: Little Ray
" I saw a post on FR just today where a Muslim leader said that there are two brands of Islam; one which embraces violence as means to an end and pursues a mindless fundamentalism. The other is more peaceful. These forms of Islam are at war around the world."

Isn't that sufficient condemnation?

It certainly isn't. If Baptists were planting bombs in the parking lots of mosques, and Billy Graham was praising it and calling for more while saying muslims eat the livers of Christian children as part of their Ramadan feasting, then other Baptists would be expected to specifically name, condemn and openly excommunicate Rev Graham, and demand that he be banned from every Baptist pulpit in the world.

If it is true that Hooper is in fact somehow enraged about memorials to suicide-killers in Ramallah, or the vile Jew-hating filth of the Arab press, then let me say that he is far too inarticulate to serve in his current post, claiming to "represent" the muslims community in the US.

44 posted on 12/05/2003 9:53:15 AM PST by cookcounty
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To: veronica
Too bad for CAIR that historical evidence indicates Islam is the ideology of murdering dogs. A destroyer of cultures since its vile beginnings.

See the Real History of the Crusades at

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1027242/posts

45 posted on 12/05/2003 9:58:48 AM PST by isrul
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To: CharliefromKS
Paul Harvey should turn it around and ask Hooper to send him a tape apologizing for the hate and violence encouraged by so many FULLY-ACCREDITED imams in the world, and explaining how the religious leaders of the muslims of Palestine and Saudi Arabia are abysmally ignorant of their own Koran do not speak for anyone but themselves.

Unfortunately, Hooper wouldn't do it because Hooper is not a serious man.

46 posted on 12/05/2003 10:00:37 AM PST by cookcounty
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To: Little Ray
" I saw a post on FR just today where a Muslim leader said that there are two brands of Islam; one which embraces violence as means to an end and pursues a mindless fundamentalism. The other is more peaceful. These forms of Islam are at war around the world"

So how come nobody knows where the battlefields are?

47 posted on 12/05/2003 10:07:54 AM PST by cookcounty
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To: veronica
Dear CAIR,

I hereby apologize because Islam encourages the random murder and killing of peoples of the Christian and Jewish faiths. I also am sorry that you towel headed rat-b*st*rds think that killing infants and the elderly is justified becaus you haven't had a decent military in over 700 years.

Sincerely,
Paul Harvey

48 posted on 12/05/2003 10:10:46 AM PST by Beck_isright (If the UN left New York and the Demorats left D.C. forever, would that qualify as the 2nd coming?)
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To: tkathy
"Instead of saying Islam "encourages killing," perhaps Mr. Harvey should have said, "Islam encourages serial killing."


I think Mass Murder might be more appropriate
49 posted on 12/05/2003 10:15:19 AM PST by MPJackal (Right makes Might)
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To: cookcounty
"These forms of Islam are at war around the world"

I'm sorry, but this BS has my blood pressure up. If 98% of the muslims are opposed to religious mayhem and butchery, why is the vast majority so ineffective in putting the violence-preaching people out? Hasn't Allah given them any strength at all?

50 posted on 12/05/2003 10:18:27 AM PST by cookcounty
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