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End-of-Life Choices Launches Statewide Campaign
Yahoo! News ^ | 12-05-03 | End-of-Life Choices

Posted on 12/05/2003 9:14:09 AM PST by phenn

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To: msmagoo
Here is the FLorida Senate. King must be removed. The hell with his legacy of murder.
cc to JEB.........Jeb.Bush@MyFlorida.com

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21 posted on 12/07/2003 5:58:53 AM PST by KDubRN
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To: phenn
So many slippery slopes; so little time!
22 posted on 12/07/2003 6:02:30 AM PST by verity
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To: phenn
Yes, I noticed the tilt toward death being almost an obligation - one anonymous columist (maybe Felos doing a guest piece?) went so far as to tell readers that he/she would opt out from artifical feeding.
The message seems to be: anyone who would want to have a feeding tube is selfish, and taking too long to die.
Spare me...
Next they will push for people who don't meet some as-yet-unknown standard, as those who should 'bow out gracefully.'

23 posted on 12/07/2003 6:36:46 AM PST by msmagoo
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To: phenn
BTTT/Thanks for the ping.
24 posted on 12/07/2003 7:15:19 AM PST by Cayenne
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To: gcruse
>> Those abortion laws were supposed to be for the benefit of rape and incest victims.

> You make that sound like a good thing.

OpusatFR was saying, accurately, that this was among the original arguments for legalizing abortion and it was supposed to sound like a good thing. Evil doesn't sell, so bad things are always sold as good things. Plenty of people saw through it at the time but we were shouted down.

Once the principle is established, the evil practice will be expanded. Abortions, income taxes, socialized medicine, paper money, etc. Then all these pretty arguing points will vanish. Nobody's going to give a rat's rear whether the old folks were "mentally competent" to make a decision. They'll be killed off for the very simple reason that their medical care costs too much. It happens already, here.

Surrender to an evil and things always get worse. That's the nature of do-everything government.

25 posted on 12/07/2003 7:21:13 AM PST by T'wit
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To: gcruse
> I hope you feel the same way about the burgeoning size of gov't under Bush and what it might lead to.

Bush? It burgeons under every president, and more to the issue, under every congress. That's the nature of government.

26 posted on 12/07/2003 7:42:41 AM PST by T'wit
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Yikes! More uninformed press:
http://tampatrib.com/News/columns/MGAA30QNWND.html
27 posted on 12/07/2003 8:16:25 AM PST by phenn (http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: msmagoo
>> Next they will push for people who don't meet some as-yet-unknown standard,

Many years ago, before anyone had thought of "right to die," G. K. Chesterton used the idea to try to satirize busybody liberal thinking. He meant it to be the most outrageous, bizarre, unthinkable example anyone could imagine of do-gooder thinking running amok. It was bonkers. Nuts. Crazy. It was so insane they'd take you to the funny farm.

But it's difficult to make fun of liberals, as Chesterton knew well. No matter how ridiculous your satire, you won't have to wait long before the real-life liberals will embrace something worse.

28 posted on 12/07/2003 8:18:17 AM PST by T'wit
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To: T'wit; All
Please contact hemlock and voice your anger

The majority of people in this country believe murder of a disabled, brain damaged woman is against the law. Even more agree that murder is against the law. This is not a political issue. However, politicians are smack in the middle of this mess due to the lobbying of special interest groups (EOLC), and personal agendas, which are to the detriment of the citizens of this country. You are the minority. You need assist to advance your euthanasia, so head for Florida where there is controversy over Terri Schiavo, ill and infirm elderly, illiterate, and cultural and language barriers. Baby step the populace into the idea.

First, I address the PVS misinformation of Terri Schiavo. PVS is misdiagnosed 40% of the time. Some studies give higher percentages of misdiagnosis among the experts. Neurologists cannot agree on a definition or diagnosis. If the medical experts cannot agree, since 1972, why does the Florida legislature and Jim King, create laws defining a medical disease? They are not licensed to practice medicine, nor do they understand medical pathophysiology. There are three times the number of specialists that disagree with Schiavo's docs. That is on the record.

Secondly, Terri had no documents stating her wishes. Thus, we have hearsay evidence presented by the husband and his family, with a definite conflict of interest, and with the courts acknowledging Michael Schiavo's hearsay Vs no acknowledgment of Terri Schiavo as a disabled American. Any conversation this gal had with her husband prior to her injury did not include feeding tubes as a method of life support. Further, the bill deeming feeding tubes as such, was not in existence prior to Terri's collapse. Nobody knows Terri's true wishes. These are facts.

For the life of me, I could not understand why republican officials were so hell bent on killing this girl. I researched End-of-Life Choices, who changed their name from Hemlock Society, as that is more aesthetically pleasing and acceptable to the populace, as a whole. I am profoundly curious as to why you and your organization feel the need to change medical ethics, and shove your euthanasia issue down my throat. I am aware of the organizations who support Hemlock, and their contributions. Dr. Crandall, involved in the Schiavo case, who diagnosed Terri as PVS, is a known member of Hemlock/EOLC.

I am sure you are well aware of Felos and his landmark Browning case. So, we have another death culture advocate involved here. I know his agenda. I am most curious in what he has to say about legalizing murder/euthanasia at the expense of Terri Schiavo. Your organization is using Michael Schiavo, and Terri, who is a victim, to advance your agenda of mercy killing. Psychology labels your actions as sociopathic.

I am familiar with Jim King and his sloppy legislation on the feeding tube inclusion on his original bill. I also know his comments and ego driven legacy, and why he won't allow the Wise bill on the floor for discussion. He is a member of EOLC/Hemlock as well, and is on the Board of the Hospice where Terri resides. Thus, we have another death culture advocate. At least the Wise bill takes measures to correct another Terri situation. What King did in advancing his bill to include feeding tubes, was push politics into the medical profession. We now have a medical definition of PVS, and we have a Florida law definition of PVS. We have judges mandating death based on a diagnosis, but the medical or the state diagnoses? We now have politics in the medical profession, and they are dictating care. Do you feel comforted by this knowledge?

Lastly, Living Wills and Advanced Directives have never been an issue in all the years we have used them in medicine. You tell me what underground movement is at play here. End-of-Life Choices/Hemlock Society has been trying to legalize murder by a physician for years. That is no secret. Futile care? It doesn't exist in medical textbooks. Ethics in medicine has evolved into a killing culture by lobbyists and some medical professionals. Are these the people you want caring for you in a critical situation? My ethical standards have never changed. I fight for a life. I do everything in my power to save and heal. If you have documentation stating otherwise, I abide by your wishes within the law. I do not kill because some court, who has no knowledge of medicine and the ethics involved, or ignorant politicians pushed or paid by lobbyists, make a bill saying so.

I send this lengthy saga to inform you that you will not force your culture of death on me. You may use scare tactics to instill fear in the elderly and the ignorant. I will advocate against you until my last breath is drawn.
chapter@endoflifechoices.org,
publicrelations@endoflifechoices.org,
caringfriends@endoflifechoices.org,
info@endoflifechoices.org

With a BCC to.........WHBUNKLEY

William H. Bunkley
Legislative & Governmental Consultant

The Bunkley Group, Inc.
P. O. Box 273196
Tampa, FL. 33688-3196
Office 813-264-2977 Fax 813-969-4772


29 posted on 12/09/2003 4:32:44 PM PST by KDubRN
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To: KDubRN
BTTT, KDub.
30 posted on 12/09/2003 6:32:02 PM PST by T'wit
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To: KDubRN
Great letter!
31 posted on 12/09/2003 7:59:48 PM PST by msmagoo
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To: msmagoo; KDubRN
I've been ruminating again, Magoo. (I know, dangerous pastime :-) ) The question at hand is, how did we get hold of the bone scan? I recall something like Felos handing it to Pat Anderson in court, along with some other papers (?). But did he mean to, or was that a blunder? Big mistake, yes?

He knows perfectly well what that bone scan means. He went to the trouble of hiring a doctor to come up with a conceivably innocent medical explanation of the scan. Felos is covering up a crime and he knows it. Is there no legal, professional or ethical sanction against him for doing that?

Meanwhile, we have to wonder what else he's covering up by sealing Terri's records.

32 posted on 12/10/2003 11:07:26 AM PST by T'wit
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To: T'wit
I recall something like Felos handing it to Pat Anderson in court, along with some other papers (?). But did he mean to, or was that a blunder? Big mistake, yes?

That's the size of it. Feel louse made a big mistake.
33 posted on 12/10/2003 2:03:07 PM PST by KDubRN
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POLL STAT

http://www.wftv.com/news/2696590/detail.html
34 posted on 12/10/2003 2:41:03 PM PST by KDubRN (POLL STAT)
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