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Myth and Reality about Homosexuality--Sexual Orientation Section, Guide to Family Issues

Posted on 12/05/2003 6:20:43 PM PST by Coleus

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To: EdReform; little jeremiah; scripter; All

There seems to be some confusion about the initials A.P.A. Sometimes the American Psychological Association is being referred to; other times it's the American Psychiatric Association. What gives? Can't these two huge organizations come up with separate handles??


101 posted on 02/08/2005 11:57:27 AM PST by Mockingbird For Short
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To: nicmarlo

This pedophilia really gets my blood boiling!!!!


102 posted on 02/08/2005 11:59:10 AM PST by Mockingbird For Short
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To: Mockingbird For Short

bttt


103 posted on 02/08/2005 11:59:55 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Mockingbird For Short; Clint N. Suhks; nicmarlo

It sometimes makes it difficult to keep the documentation straight.

FYI, here are two more links to consider in addition to the wealth of 'AmPsychi' and 'AmPsycho' documentation in Scripter's 'Index of Links' thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1026551/posts?page=363#363 - ( note paragraphs 2, 3, and 6 )

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1026551/posts?page=364#364 - ( note last two paragraphs )


104 posted on 02/08/2005 12:16:38 PM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: Mockingbird For Short
Really!? I hope I can run across some documentation on that little fact! Wow.

You'll find that out when you read Socorides paper. When the final referendum came to a vote in 1973 nearly 42% voted against its removal from the DSM. How can you vote on science? Let's see if I can put that in perspective. Lets say the existence of gravity came to a vote and 58% of all the scientists said it doesn't exist and 42% say it does...how comfortable would feel jumping out of an airplane without your parachute? That's basically what APA is dealing with here.

In his paper Socarides talks about the patients he's cured, that should give you some documentation that behavioral therapy works...and that was way before NARTH or any other religious based therapy organizations came into existence.

105 posted on 02/08/2005 12:16:59 PM PST by Clint N. Suhks
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To: Mockingbird For Short
There seems to be some confusion about the initials A.P.A. Sometimes the American Psychological Association is being referred to; other times it's the American Psychiatric Association. What gives? Can't these two huge organizations come up with separate handles??

Think of it in these terms.

American Psychiatric Association are MD's

American Psychological Association are PHD's

And at the bottom of the food chain are Psychotherapists ie. college graduates.

106 posted on 02/08/2005 12:25:13 PM PST by Clint N. Suhks
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To: Mockingbird For Short
This pedophilia really gets my blood boiling!!!!

I would wait until there is concrete documentation on the APA (whichever one) trying to normalize pedophilia before getting to worked up about it. This sounds very much like a quote mining attempt.

107 posted on 02/08/2005 12:36:38 PM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: Coleus

Ping


108 posted on 02/08/2005 12:37:22 PM PST by mongrel
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To: Mockingbird For Short; Clint N. Suhks; scripter; ArGee; lentulusgracchus; little jeremiah; ...

When the final referendum came to a vote in 1973 nearly 42% voted against its removal from the DSM. How can you vote on science? Let's see if I can put that in perspective. Lets say the existence of gravity came to a vote and 58% of all the scientists said it doesn't exist and 42% say it does...how comfortable would feel jumping out of an airplane without your parachute? That's basically what APA is dealing with here.


Additional documentation supporting Clint's statement posted in Scripter's Homosexual Agenda: Categorical Index of Links (Revision 1.1):

American Psychiatric Association: 46, 139, 213, 232, 237, 239, 241, 242, 243, 246, 300, 363, and 364.



"There is a gay activist group that's very strong and very vocal and recognized by the American Psychiatric Association...there's nobody to give the other viewpoint...There may be a few people...but they don't talk" ( Spitzer, 2004 ).

109 posted on 02/08/2005 1:21:33 PM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: Mockingbird For Short

Mine too!! BTW, you have FReepmail, with a link to the site I mentioned.


110 posted on 02/08/2005 4:31:42 PM PST by nicmarlo
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In 1981, however, “Time” announces that arguments pro-pedophilia are becoming popular among sexual counselors. Larry Constantine, a family therapist, proclaims that children “have the right to express themselves sexually, what means they can or cannot have sexual contact with older people”.

I don't understand the last sentence--- "...what means they can or cannot have sexual contact... Huh? Can someone help me out?

111 posted on 02/08/2005 9:37:32 PM PST by Mockingbird For Short
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To: Mockingbird For Short

I'm thinking what that means is, it's the child's choice as to the way (means) of sexual contact


112 posted on 02/08/2005 9:44:47 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Clint N. Suhks
Lets say the existence of gravity came to a vote and 58% of all the scientists said it doesn't exist and 42% say it does...how comfortable would feel jumping out of an airplane without your parachute?

Very fitting example--- did you see my "About" page? Ha ha.

113 posted on 02/08/2005 10:06:57 PM PST by Mockingbird For Short
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To: Mockingbird For Short
Very fitting example--- did you see my "About" page? Ha ha.

No, can you give me a link?

114 posted on 02/08/2005 10:18:30 PM PST by Clint N. Suhks
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To: Clint N. Suhks
Before you read any of the NARTH stuff you need to start at the beginning. Sexual Politics And Scientific Logic: The Issue Of Homosexuality It's a long read and it may take you a few times to get through it, it did me, but you have to understand this before you can go on. Ed probably gave you this along with others but it's important you start here.

Thanks, Clint. Somehow I missed this reply this morning. Looks interesting and will read it tonight.

115 posted on 02/08/2005 10:19:37 PM PST by Mockingbird For Short
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Just click on my name.... you'll see.


116 posted on 02/08/2005 10:20:22 PM PST by Mockingbird For Short
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To: nicmarlo

That is really disgusting, isn't it? I cannot IMAGINE being a child in a home that had these possibilities. I have not finished reading "A Hundred Years of Pedophilia" but what I read so far is so very sad.

We have accumulated so many links on this subject, haven't we? It's getting kinda' difficult to keep it all straight. (no put intended) But it's all very helpful.


117 posted on 02/08/2005 10:24:47 PM PST by Mockingbird For Short
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To: SweetCaroline

AMEN to that, Caroline!


118 posted on 02/08/2005 10:26:22 PM PST by Mockingbird For Short
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did you see my "About" page? Ha ha.

OH MY! I wish I were that clever. That's too funny.

What a quinky dink.

119 posted on 02/09/2005 8:27:01 AM PST by Clint N. Suhks
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bttt


120 posted on 05/06/2008 9:09:22 PM PDT by Coleus (Abortion and Physician-assisted Murder (aka-Euthanasia), Don't Democrats just kill ya?)
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