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To: EdReform; little jeremiah; scripter; All
I have some questions about this very informative article. The first question concerns this statement:

Homosexual activist groups pressured APA committees to remove homosexuality from the APA’s approved list of disorders. In spite of the long documented history showing that therapists have helped homosexual clients reduce and change their homosexual tendencies, professionals who persist in viewing and treating homosexuality as a changeable condition are labeled unenlightened, prejudiced, homophobic, and unethical.

1) Does anyone know where I might find the "long documented history" showing that therapists HAVE indeed helped homosexual clients reduce and change their homosexual tendencies? Gays are always saying that homosexuality can't be altered because it's "who one is" not "what one does." It would be really handy if I had some evidence that gays have been permanently helped.

Thanks.

78 posted on 02/08/2005 12:30:32 AM PST by Mockingbird For Short
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To: EdReform; little jeremiah; scripter; All

P.S. I noticed in Fast Fact #82 that Throckmorton wrote on article on ex-gays for the APA Journal in 2002; but it no longer appears in the archives of the APA website. Interesting.


79 posted on 02/08/2005 12:42:03 AM PST by Mockingbird For Short
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To: Mockingbird For Short
You may find some of Dr Throckmorton's research a place to find some of the answers to your questions.

I believe freeper EdReform put a lot of documentation together in revision 1.1 of the categorical index in regards to the APA and pedophilia.

Checkout one section of FR profile and scroll down to the "Dr. Spitzer" and click it for some very useful information on ex-homosexuals.

87 posted on 02/08/2005 8:49:44 AM PST by scripter (Tens of thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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Pinging for comments and additional documentation.


91 posted on 02/08/2005 10:03:01 AM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: Mockingbird For Short; EdReform; Coleus
Does anyone know where I might find the "long documented history"

Before you read any of the NARTH stuff you need to start at the beginning.

Sexual Politics And Scientific Logic: The Issue Of Homosexuality

It's a long read and it may take you a few times to get through it, it did me, but you have to understand this before you can go on. Ed probably gave you this along with others but it's important you start here.

Ed, I must have missed your ping the first time.

94 posted on 02/08/2005 11:28:45 AM PST by Clint N. Suhks
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