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Naval Academy Alumni Association Rejects Gay Alumni Chapter
ap ^ | 12/5/03

Posted on 12/05/2003 7:21:32 PM PST by knak

ANNAPOLIS, Md. (AP) - The governing board of the Naval Academy Alumni Association on Friday unanimously rejected a bid by 32 graduates to establish the first official gay and lesbian alumni chapter of any U.S. service academy.

The board of trustees released a memorandum saying they denied the application because it was based too specifically on a special interest, its membership would be too exclusive, and it wasn't centered on a geographical area.

"I know that there are people who are part of the board of trustees who don't have open minds toward recognizing gays and lesbians," said Jeff Petrie, a 1989 Naval Academy graduate who organized the effort to establish a gay chapter. "I think as time passes, those feelings will fade away and we'll eventually be accepted."

There is no appeal process for the organizers of USNA Out, but they aren't barred from filing their application again, said Skid Heyworth, vice president of communications for the military college's alumni association.

Petrie said his group has not yet decided whether to reapply.

The rejection sends a message to gay men and women in the military that they are not considered equal, said Aaron Belkin, director of the Center for the Study of Sexual Minorities in the Military at the University of California, Santa Barbara.

"It's a signal that the military is still on the wrong side of history, and that they are continuing to refuse to recognize gay sailors who risked their lives for their country," Belkin said.

Naval Academy alumni are able to join the Service Academy Gay and Lesbian Alumni Association (SAGALA), an 150-member alumni association that isn't officially sanctioned by any of the military academies. Many of its members are anonymous.

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1 posted on 12/05/2003 7:21:32 PM PST by knak
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To: knak
Well, that will give the ACLU something to do </sarcasm>
2 posted on 12/05/2003 7:22:38 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: knak
Since I'm Army and my brother is Navy there is a joke to be made here but in the spirit of the season I will refrain.
3 posted on 12/05/2003 7:23:02 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
Reminds me of Churchill's comment about the traditions of the Royal Navy: Rum, Sodomy and the lash.
4 posted on 12/05/2003 7:23:50 PM PST by 07055
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To: jwalsh07
Hubby is Army son is Navy. Thanks for your restraint! ; )
5 posted on 12/05/2003 7:26:13 PM PST by annyokie (One good thing about being wrong is the joy it brings to others.)
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To: jwalsh07
OK, I looked at the SAGALA website and am thoroughly grossed out and disgusted.
6 posted on 12/05/2003 7:27:16 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: knak
"I think as time passes, those feelings will fade away and we'll eventually be accepted."

Don't count on it, poofdah.

7 posted on 12/05/2003 7:27:46 PM PST by Old Sarge (Then let me share the load...)
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To: knak; Travis McGee
Good post, knak.

Matt, I know you can well imagine what my USNA class of '58 husband just said. He didn't know anything about this til now. :)
8 posted on 12/05/2003 7:29:43 PM PST by onyx
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To: knak
The rejection sends a message to gay men and women in the military that they are not considered equal, said Aaron Belkin, director of the Center for the Study of Sexual Minorities in the Military at the University of California, Santa Barbara.

*** *** ****

That is a very good message to send.


BTW: Who the heck funds such a no where "center", I bet the center has a staff of one person, this wacko.
9 posted on 12/05/2003 7:30:56 PM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: knak
Well now I understand why I was told to never pick up the soap on a Navy ship.
10 posted on 12/05/2003 7:32:42 PM PST by U S Army EOD (When the EOD technician screws up, he is always the first to notice.)
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To: knak
I know one guy from the Village People is going to be pissed!

11 posted on 12/05/2003 7:33:36 PM PST by MizzouTigerRepublican (82nd ABN Gulf war vet)
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To: knak
The phrase "Village People" comes to mind.
12 posted on 12/05/2003 7:35:19 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Chilling Effect-1, Global Warming-0)
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To: MizzouTigerRepublican
I'm too slow.
13 posted on 12/05/2003 7:35:36 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Chilling Effect-1, Global Warming-0)
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To: jwalsh07
Do you know what the navy definition of "good buddy" is?
14 posted on 12/05/2003 7:36:25 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Chilling Effect-1, Global Warming-0)
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To: knak
nobody is telling them that they can't join a chapter for crying out loud!!!!! We should start having whine and cheese alerts.
15 posted on 12/05/2003 7:39:19 PM PST by Mercat
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To: knak
Guess those stories about the navy do have some basis of fact.
16 posted on 12/05/2003 7:40:17 PM PST by cynicom
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To: knak
There are no gays in the Navy. TMy boatmate on my sub who kept dropping the soap in the shower told me so.
17 posted on 12/05/2003 7:42:10 PM PST by Az Joe
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
No idea I guess regarding the number of lesbos and homos who comprised the 32 graduates? My husband is 'hoping' it's more of a lesbo thang.
18 posted on 12/05/2003 7:42:57 PM PST by onyx
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To: annyokie
I'm sorry but .... GO ARMY .... BEAT NAVY!!!(Even if navy likes it....)
19 posted on 12/05/2003 7:52:05 PM PST by Yasotay
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To: onyx
Well here is the good news and the bad news. Most of these people were lesbians but they graduated from the Naval Acadamy before they started admitting women.
20 posted on 12/05/2003 7:53:17 PM PST by U S Army EOD (When the EOD technician screws up, he is always the first to notice.)
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To: Az Joe
All you got to do in a case like that is lock your cheeks, stand up and drag the culprit up to see the captain.
21 posted on 12/05/2003 7:54:58 PM PST by U S Army EOD (When the EOD technician screws up, he is always the first to notice.)
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To: Yasotay
My sentiments exactly!
22 posted on 12/05/2003 7:59:17 PM PST by annyokie (One good thing about being wrong is the joy it brings to others.)
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To: U S Army EOD
Well here is the good news and the bad news. Most of these people were lesbians but they graduated from the Naval Acadamy before they started admitting women.

ROFLMAO! Husband thanks you for the laugh also. Wow, was he livid. Women were not allowed in the USNA when he was there.

23 posted on 12/05/2003 8:00:41 PM PST by onyx
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To: jwalsh07
Where can you find pleasure, search the world for treasure,
Learn science, technology?
Where can you begin to make your dreams all come true
On the land or on the sea?
Where can you learn to fly, play in sports or skindive,
Study oceanography?
Sign up for the big band or sit in the grand stand
When your team and others meet.

In the Navy, yes, you can sail the seven seas.
In the Navy, yes, you can put your mind at ease.
In the Navy, come on now people, make a stand.
In the Navy, can't you see we need a hand.
In the Navy, come on, protect the motherland.
In the Navy, come on and join your fellow, man.
In the Navy, come on, people, and make a stand.
In the Navy, in the Navy.

They want you! They want you! They want you as a new recruit!

If you like adventure don't you wait to enter
The recruiting office fast.
Don't you hesitate, there is no need to wait;
They're signing up new seamen fast.
Maybe you are too young to join up today
But don't you worry 'bout the thing
For I'm sure there will be always the good Navy
Protecting the land and sea.

In the Navy...

They want you! They want you! They want you as a new recruit!
They want you! They want you! They want you as a new recruit!
..But..but..but I'm afraid of water!
..hey..hey..look, men...
I get seasick even watching it on the TV!
They want You! - Oh my goodness!
They want you! - What am I gonna do in a submarine?
They want you! They want you!
In the Navy.

In the Navy...

24 posted on 12/05/2003 8:00:57 PM PST by I got the rope
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To: onyx
Did he check to make sure while he was there?
25 posted on 12/05/2003 8:03:49 PM PST by U S Army EOD (When the EOD technician screws up, he is always the first to notice.)
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To: Darksheare
Since I'm Army and my brother is Navy there is a joke to be made here but in the spirit of the season I will refrain.

Looks like possible cannon fodder to me.

26 posted on 12/05/2003 8:04:07 PM PST by I got the rope
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To: knak
If the Naval Academy approved this application - a charter based upon sexual orientation - what next?
27 posted on 12/05/2003 8:06:40 PM PST by TrueBeliever9
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To: U S Army EOD
Did he check to make sure while he was there?

Too funny. I'll pass on asking him THAT question. LOL!

28 posted on 12/05/2003 8:07:42 PM PST by onyx
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To: TrueBeliever9
This could help solve the problem the Navy has now of the crew being larger coming back into port than when it left.
29 posted on 12/05/2003 8:09:24 PM PST by U S Army EOD (When the EOD technician screws up, he is always the first to notice.)
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To: Yasotay
I'm sorry but .... GO ARMY .... BEAT NAVY!!!(Even if navy likes it....)

My VMI graduate brother, retired Army - agrees! My West Point friend is still laughing over the concept because of all the Navy jokes. My Marine son has ridden a lot of waves with the Navy and he assures me that he never encountered, hum, I can't type this, but he was with the Force Recon Team and no one messes with them.

30 posted on 12/05/2003 8:13:08 PM PST by TrueBeliever9
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
You may want to remove some cookies....
31 posted on 12/05/2003 8:14:59 PM PST by yooper
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To: TrueBeliever9
What exactly do you mean by the statement, "Riding the Waves"?
32 posted on 12/05/2003 8:17:52 PM PST by U S Army EOD (When the EOD technician screws up, he is always the first to notice.)
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To: TrueBeliever9
I could not help myself .... with a subject like this .... with the Army - Navy Game this weekend .... USNA was just asking for trouble!
33 posted on 12/05/2003 8:21:11 PM PST by Yasotay
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To: Yasotay
I hope you enjoy the game - the football game!

Go Army!

34 posted on 12/05/2003 8:22:51 PM PST by TrueBeliever9
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To: Yasotay
Speaking of which...

GO NAVY!!

35 posted on 12/05/2003 8:23:22 PM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet ("Does this holster make me look fat?" - Conspiracy Guy)
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To: TrueBeliever9
You Too! I am looking forward to seeing the "stunts" coming out of Iraq and Afghanistan .... as well as the game ... alot of "Spirit" and meaning is there enjoy.... GO ARMY!
37 posted on 12/05/2003 8:30:52 PM PST by Yasotay
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
Lots of "Spirit" there ... any Backbone? Have a great weekend!
38 posted on 12/05/2003 8:33:33 PM PST by Yasotay
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To: U S Army EOD
The other part is don't drop the soap either.
39 posted on 12/05/2003 8:43:15 PM PST by Enterprise
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To: scripter
Faggots and queers ping!
40 posted on 12/05/2003 9:20:43 PM PST by upchuck (This tagline is made from 100% reprocessed, recycled and rejuvenated tags. And they love it!)
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To: knak
The rejection sends a message to gay men and women in the military that they are not considered equal, said Aaron Belkin, director of the Center for the Study of Sexual Minorities in the Military at the University of California, Santa Barbara.

Awwwwww... poor babies.... they're just victims.

Damn right they're not equal. They're queers!

41 posted on 12/05/2003 9:26:29 PM PST by upchuck (This tagline is made from 100% reprocessed, recycled and rejuvenated tags. And they love it!)
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To: I got the rope
My former First Sar was a 'squid' before he went Army, and there's definately all kinds of jokes that this thread brings to mind.
*in slightly shade tree used car salesmen voice*
"I'd ahh.. tell ya the jokes but that'd kinda be'a violatin' don't ask don't tell"

Response as to why we were dragging a camo net, sledge, and some rope through the drill floor area:
"It's got something to do with don't ask don't tell."

Cripes, when Clinton came up with that, he opened the door for ALL kinds of jokes about that alone.

Sidentoe, wouldn't having an officially recognised gay alumni shapter be a violation of don't ask don't tell?
No-one is asking them, but they're telling anyway?
42 posted on 12/06/2003 7:49:47 AM PST by Darksheare ("We're Wombat Artillery! We go anywhere, dig wherever we want, and we look cute & fuzzy too!")
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To: Darksheare
LOL. I remember going to my First Sgt's office one time to update him on the status of something. I knocked on his door and saw our Captain sitting across from him. He glanced at my Captain then looked back at me and said..."WHAT!...Don't tell me your coming out of the closet too?!"


43 posted on 12/06/2003 8:00:55 AM PST by I got the rope
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To: I got the rope
GO ARMY!!!!!! Just a little more than 3 hours until the big game!
44 posted on 12/06/2003 9:34:39 AM PST by MizzouTigerRepublican (82nd ABN Gulf war vet)
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To: I got the rope
Oh no!
We had a Cap that was kinda..
Well, he was married for 'propriety' reasons.
*ugh*
But it made for good jokes.
At least until we got slammed for making "don't ask don't tell" jokes.
*LOL!*
45 posted on 12/06/2003 9:57:55 AM PST by Darksheare ("We're Wombat Artillery! We go anywhere, dig wherever we want, and we look cute & fuzzy too!")
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To: TrueBeliever9
An old friend I know who was aboard British Naval ships, said that those who were found to be homosexuals accidentally fell overboard.

(does anyone remember the number of overboard incidents that happened during the first 100 days of the clinton administration? It was shortly at that point when "don't ask, don't tell" was adopted)
46 posted on 12/06/2003 5:43:42 PM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: Yasotay
Lots of "spirit" there - any defensive line? ; )

You have a good weekend, too!

Hey Army! BOHICA!!!

47 posted on 12/06/2003 7:52:06 PM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (I am in a promising local band.)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
No .... Congrats .... :(
48 posted on 12/06/2003 8:37:20 PM PST by Yasotay
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To: Yasotay
Hey, sorry for ribbing you - there were a few times when I thought it was going to be a really close game. You can be proud.
49 posted on 12/06/2003 9:53:34 PM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (I am in a promising local band.)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
I thought during the 3rd Quarter there was a chance to come back .... but throwing two interceptions is enough to lose any game.....have a Merry X-Mas!
50 posted on 12/06/2003 10:07:40 PM PST by Yasotay
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