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Ford vice president acquires Mexican citizenship, ID card
Detroit Free Press ^ | December 6, 2003 | ALEJANDRO BODIPO-MEMBA

Posted on 12/06/2003 2:23:23 AM PST by sarcasm

Edited on 05/07/2004 7:13:14 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Ford Motor Co. Executive Vice President James Padilla became one of Detroit's most prominent Mexican citizens Friday, receiving his citizenship and the controversial Matricula Consular identification card.

Padilla's symbolic gesture was a bold move politically and from a business standpoint, considering his position with the world's second-largest automaker.


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TOPICS: Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: aliens; ford; immigrantlist; immigration; matricula; turass

1 posted on 12/06/2003 2:23:24 AM PST by sarcasm
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To: sarcasm
But he points to the hundreds of thousands of Mexicans across the country and in Michigan who are here legally and work and pay taxes and who can benefit from the consular ID cards.

Legal immigrants can get drivers licenses or State ID cards.

2 posted on 12/06/2003 2:29:23 AM PST by clee1 (Where's the beef???)
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To: clee1
When did dual citizenship with Mexico become legal? Seriously, I want to know.
3 posted on 12/06/2003 2:50:13 AM PST by CasearianDaoist
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To: sarcasm
The liberal press is simply amazing............you will never read that illegal aliens also bring tuberculosis, covicted felons, wife beaters, welfare cheats, etc. and a Mexican culture that relies on graft, fraud and kickbacks to deliver goods and services to its citizens.

This "culture" will become a major problem within a generation as millions of illegals are allowed into the USA every year.

4 posted on 12/06/2003 3:18:23 AM PST by Tripleplay
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To: All
Another bold Ford executive, former-CEO Jacques Nasser, told an audience of Ford corporate HQ personnel that, "I do not like the sea of white faces in the audience."

Being the sensitive person that I am I go out of my way to avoid my white face offending FoMoCo and its subsidiaries. "Diversity is job one." Back when Ford was an American company quality was job one. My how things change.

RE: "When did dual citizenship with Mexico become legal?"

Uh, 12:01PM 20 Jan., 2001 I think.

5 posted on 12/06/2003 3:20:42 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
Well, one day real soon (too soon) I will be buying a new car. It ain't gonna be a Ford. I thought they had "a better idea", but now I see they are overly concerned with pleasing the editorial board of the NY Times.

This guy should be relocated to Guadalajara.
6 posted on 12/06/2003 4:14:46 AM PST by jocon307 (The Dems don't get it, the American people do.)
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To: sarcasm
There are other domestic automobiles I can buy besides "El Fordo"!

"El Fordo" has lost another customer.

7 posted on 12/06/2003 4:16:16 AM PST by Redleg Duke (Stir the pot...don't let anything settle to the bottom where the lawyers can feed off of it!)
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To: sarcasm
""I've lived overseas and I know, to get integrated into a new society, you have to have ID in that society," said Padilla, a Detroit native who now has dual citizenship in the United States and Mexico."

A US citizen does not have dual citizenship. Or has this changed?

8 posted on 12/06/2003 4:23:28 AM PST by OpusatFR (If you don't like our laws, live in accordance with our laws, and believe in oun way of life: leave)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
See:

Experts: `Transnational citizens' will change U.S.-Latin relations

9 posted on 12/06/2003 4:23:49 AM PST by sarcasm (Tancredo 2004)
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To: sarcasm
Dual citizenship is a bad idea...
No man can serve two masters either he will love the one and hate the other or hate the one and love the other..
A house divided against itself cannot stand.
10 posted on 12/06/2003 4:23:50 AM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: sarcasm
Padilla should be required to give up his American citizenship.
11 posted on 12/06/2003 4:40:46 AM PST by Dante3
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To: sarcasm
There already is in place an internationally recognized process for Mexicans (and other foreigners) to possess valid ID while in the U.S.A.

It's called a passport.

Just like all other law-abiding foreign nationals, they apply to their respective countries for a passport.

Once they receive a passport issued by their own country of citizenship - they take it to the nearest U.S. Consular Office and apply for a Visa to visit the U.S.A. legally.

Then, during their legal, lawful stay in the United States, they will possess a valid ID.

SIMPLE.

12 posted on 12/06/2003 5:18:43 AM PST by skip2myloo
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To: CasearianDaoist
I'm curious too. If I got dual citizenship with Mexico, could I get free health care and housing from the US too?
13 posted on 12/06/2003 5:34:52 AM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: Redleg Duke
BMW, the new Nissan truck . . . .
14 posted on 12/06/2003 5:37:22 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: OpusatFR
As a US citizen, you can "buy" citizenship from Monaco, New Zealand (rather expensive there, you must deposit $1,000,000.00 cash in a NZ account first. A pretty good way to keep out the riff-raff though), Costa Rica, Belize, and a few more. Many extremely wealthy (former) American citizens have taken this one step further and have turned in their PP at American Consulates around the world, to relieve themselves of the responsibility of paying taxes in the US. Clintoon tried unsucessfully to put a stop to this. But there's a lot of wealthy Americans who don't want to go down with the ship.
15 posted on 12/06/2003 5:39:42 AM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: sarcasm
When I flew Delta last week, I was required to show a government issued photo-ID to board the plane. They were very specific about that.

But come to think of it, they didn't say which government...

16 posted on 12/06/2003 5:44:19 AM PST by snopercod (The federal government will spend $21,000 per household in 2003, up from $16,000 in 1999.)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
Here’s the clincher. We have all had a good laugh over the years about “FoMoCo” here in Panama because it translates into Spanish as: “Phew!!! Snot.!!!
17 posted on 12/06/2003 5:49:46 AM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: snopercod
Not even government ID

To access these new checkpoints you will be required to present a BOARDING PASS and PHOTO IDENTIFICATION.  Tickets and ticket confirmations (such as a travel agent or airline itineraries) will no longer be accepted at these checkpoints.

18 posted on 12/06/2003 5:53:15 AM PST by sarcasm (Tancredo 2004)
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To: sarcasm
It's way beyond the information in your link, and is in force now at all airports, not just those on the list.

Enroute from ONT to AVL via ATL, I had to show my government issued photo ID 5 times. Checked baggage was 100% X-rayed. Every single passenger had to remove his or her shoes and belts, as well as jewelry, watches, and pocket change at the screening station. I was patted down once, and had to unbutton my blue jeans (must have been that large bulge down there, eh?)

After that experience, I'll never fly commercial again if I can help it.

The few people I spoke with agreed with me that the Taliban have won.

19 posted on 12/06/2003 6:35:27 AM PST by snopercod (The federal government will spend $21,000 per household in 2003, up from $16,000 in 1999.)
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To: sarcasm
I'm waiting to see the first "James Padilla" faked Matricula Consular cards.
20 posted on 12/06/2003 8:03:13 AM PST by lelio
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To: sarcasm
Well I will no longer buy or use a Ford ever again...
21 posted on 12/06/2003 8:05:39 AM PST by KevinDavis (Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
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To: HiJinx; gubamyster
ping
22 posted on 12/06/2003 8:28:14 AM PST by Libertarianize the GOP (Ideas have consequences)
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To: snopercod
When I flew Delta last week, I was required to show a government issued photo-ID to board the plane. They were very specific about that.

Interesting comment! I wrote Delta a few months ago suggesting that they not accept drivers licenses as ID from those states that issue them to illegals. Evidently they went me one better. Good news.

23 posted on 12/06/2003 10:24:19 AM PST by Oatka
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To: *immigrant_list; A Navy Vet; Lion Den Dan; Free the USA; Libertarianize the GOP; madfly; B4Ranch; ..
ping
24 posted on 12/06/2003 11:14:16 AM PST by gubamyster
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To: KevinDavis
Well I will no longer buy or use a Ford ever again...

Same here, I'd rather buy a used Yugo than one from Ford.

25 posted on 12/06/2003 11:52:24 AM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: sarcasm
If Padilla is trying to lend legitimacy to the invasive hordes I hope he doesn't mind if his company remains on my boycott list. I tell everyone I know about the Ford Foundation, how they were distanced from by the company during the Sixties and how the latest crop of execs do indeed embrace the concept that "Diversity is Job-1".

Let's not forget that fine example of Mexican-American teamwork, the Festiva (or Fester, as most of its unfortunite owners came to call it). Little kids could be found whacking on them with sticks, mistaking them for pinatas.
26 posted on 12/06/2003 11:55:00 AM PST by NewRomeTacitus (Refuses to buy into the dogma of self-delusional political correctness.)
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To: sarcasm
Experts: `Transnational citizens´ will change U.S.-Latin relations

That article was over 2 years old. It's sure nice to see that things are going as planned. (/sarcasm)

27 posted on 12/06/2003 11:56:11 AM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: sarcasm
"Matricula Consular cards are the focal point of a heated national debate. Supporters, like Padilla, say Mexican nationals need access to valid photo identification to conduct everyday business."

So.....doesn't Mexico issue passports? What's the problem?

28 posted on 12/06/2003 11:58:39 AM PST by cookcounty
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To: clee1
At this moment, I am waiting for an auto dealer to call me with pricing on a Ford or Dodge 1 Ton truck. This makes me consider not dropping $46,000.00 on a Ford. Unfortunately, my present Dodge 1T is built in Mexico and I think the new ones are too. Now what in the heck do I do.
29 posted on 12/06/2003 12:00:15 PM PST by Lion Den Dan
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To: Lion Den Dan
Chevrolet!

I am sure some of their parts come from other countries, but I think they still make them here.

They have good incentives, cash back and 0% financing.

Get their lowest price, and then say it is worth it, but more than I planned to pay.

Make sure the Sales Manager hears you, and he will crunch the numbers down most likely.

I saved 5 grand that way.
30 posted on 12/06/2003 12:06:55 PM PST by Syncro
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To: FITZ
Ping to you...
31 posted on 12/06/2003 12:07:22 PM PST by Syncro
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To: DumpsterDiver
What will American citizenship mean twenty years from now?
32 posted on 12/06/2003 12:09:19 PM PST by sarcasm (Tancredo 2004)
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To: sarcasm
American citizenship now doesn't mean much more than being qualified for jury duty. In 20 more years it'll be the butt of jokes.

Illegal immigration needs to be stopped. Hell, it should've been stopped years ago.

33 posted on 12/06/2003 12:19:11 PM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: sarcasm
Well, I can't wait un til he moves to his new country and finds gainful employment there, running whatever car Manufacurer Mexico has.
34 posted on 12/06/2003 12:23:23 PM PST by SAMWolf (Study Art and Logic - and learn to draw your own conclusions)
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To: gubamyster; A Navy Vet; Lion Den Dan; Free the USA; Libertarianize the GOP; madfly; B4Ranch
Dual-Citizenship?

Either you're an American or you are not! You can not have divided loyalties.

If anyone claims to have "citizenship" with another country they must IMHO be registered as a foreign agent and watched very closely!
35 posted on 12/06/2003 12:58:32 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: gubamyster
I saw this this morning. It was only a matter of time. Citizenship in this nation is being devalued as we type. Anyone can get in and once here they have more rights than citizens.
36 posted on 12/06/2003 1:12:20 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: DumpsterDiver
Maybe we'll be able to get a new passport, good from Labrador to Tierra del Fuego, the new Commonwealth of the Americas!
37 posted on 12/06/2003 1:12:28 PM PST by sarcasm (Tancredo 2004)
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To: SandRat
I've read that all Mex nationals that are now US citizens have dual citizenship.This is in case the US is in trouble and we have to start drafting they can just go home.







38 posted on 12/06/2003 1:36:22 PM PST by rubofthebrush
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To: Lion Den Dan
I just bought a new GMC pickup two weeks ago. Made in the USA by Americans.

Ford has been bought by the Mexican lobby, and Dodge is a subsidiary of "Daimler-Chrysler" -- you know how good a buddy the Germans have been lately.
39 posted on 12/06/2003 4:48:08 PM PST by clee1 (Where's the beef???)
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To: Redleg Duke
There are other domestic automobiles I can buy besides "El Fordo"!

"El Fordo" has lost another customer.

As if I didn't have enough reasons already with their funding of the enviornmentalist wacko Sierra Club, through the Ford Foundation.

40 posted on 12/06/2003 8:32:24 PM PST by c-b 1
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To: clee1
I just bought a new GMC pickup two weeks ago. Made in the USA by Americans.

Don't crow too loudly, GM recently donated a bunch of new Suburbans to the Nature Conservancy.

41 posted on 12/06/2003 8:38:28 PM PST by c-b 1
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To: c-b 1
Yeah, yeah....

ALL big companies do things for all kinds of organizations. Its called advertising. If loaning a few vehicles out generates 1% more good will or 1% more in sales, it is a cost-justified business expense.

To not do business w/ a company strictly over that type of would force you to NEVER buy anything from anyone.

GM is the only American car maker that comes close to "American" built.

42 posted on 12/06/2003 9:20:41 PM PST by clee1 (Where's the beef???)
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To: rubofthebrush
This is in case the US is in trouble and we have to start drafting they can just go home.

Suits me just fine. I would NOT want some unloyal "bastard citizen" next to me in a foxhole, fer DAMN sure.

TLI

43 posted on 12/07/2003 2:34:21 AM PST by TLI (...........ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA..........)
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To: sarcasm
Alfaro Lopez is chief of the forfeiture division of the prosecutor's office

Gee, that fits. A woman who is actually a foreigner with loyalty to another country in charge of taking property away from Americans.

Why is a person who is an avowed citizen of a foreign nation allowed to prosecute the laws of the United States against us and our countrymen? She swore an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution. She just negated that oath by swearing an oath of loyalty to another constitution, that of Mexico.

If I were in court and she asserted that she had the right to take my property, I would move for a mistrial on lack of standing. She doesn't - and cannot - represent "The People" - i.e., the citizens - of the United States.

44 posted on 12/07/2003 9:32:37 AM PST by Regulator
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To: sarcasm
What will American citizenship mean twenty years from now?

Right now, it means you had $29 to give to a Mexican Consular official. After you do that, you basically can do everything a U.S. citizen can.

45 posted on 12/07/2003 9:37:12 AM PST by Regulator
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To: Regulator
You have made a very good point.

Lopez should not be in charge of anything. Anyone with a dual citizenship should not be paid by the American taxpayers. Let her get her money from Mexico.
46 posted on 12/07/2003 9:50:19 AM PST by texastoo (What a Continent!!! (sarcasm))
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To: sarcasm
I wonder, how does one say "conflict of interests" in espanol?
And how did Mexico vote on the Iraq?
How many millions of illegals pour across the border every year taking how many millions of dollars in health, education, housing & welfare?

"Have you driven a Ford lately?". I'm sorry to say I own 2 late model Fords. They will be my last.
47 posted on 12/07/2003 10:00:17 AM PST by LibertyAndJusticeForAll
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To: sarcasm
Well that's that, no Ford autos for me. And I'd been considering a new Ford truck.
48 posted on 12/08/2003 6:30:38 AM PST by Bikers4Bush
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