Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 7 Dec 2003

Various big media television networks ^ | 7 Dec 2003 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

[Alas Babylon!]

The Talk Shows

Sunday, December 7th, 2003

Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:

FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): White House Chief of Staff Andrew H. Card Jr. and former Vermont governor Howard Dean (D).

MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Former House speaker Newt Gingrich (R-GA) and Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY).

FACE THE NATION (CBS): Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY) and White House Chief of Staff Andrew H. Card.

THIS WEEK (ABC): Former Israeli justice minister Yossi Beilin, former Palestinian information minister Yasser Abed Rabbo and Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY).

LATE EDITION (CNN) : Chuck Hagel (R-NE) and Christopher J. Dodd (D-CT); King Abdullah of Jordan; Dore Gold, adviser to Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon; former Palestinian information minister Yasser Rabbo; Israeli justice minister Yossi Beilin; and White House Chief of Staff Andrew H. Card.

[TomGuy]

He did that this very day on Fox!! When Wallace pressed him on it, his only answer was "Well, some people believe that."

Hmmm...that's the same ones Perky Katie references: "There are those who say..." and "Some people say..."

The only problem is--"some" or "they" are never really identified but remain aloof and ethereal.

[Howlin]

Don't miss it; it's one of the most brazen things I've seen on TV in a long time!

[NormsRevenge]

All these interviews this morning was PR to fix what she said in Iraq to the Troops

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LOL.

Yup! I endured the Mete Out the Propaganda, Timmy is such a lousy host. He couldn't press a leaf in a book.

3 shows down and there is still a hugh crack showing on Hitlary's legacy. What an ass she IS!

[Peach]

Thanks for the information on who to ask. Always ask the expert.

I'd love to see a Hillary file that we could all use to write editorials, using quotes and policy positions.

She is so extreme that we can use THAT against her.

Today's comments on the shows that the middle is where we all want to end up is crap.

I have a Hillary file started on my computer, but would like to see something more formal on FR that we can ALL use for reference material.

[Mo1]

FOFL .. that is so true

[Right_in_Virginia]

Just got home...George Will is interviwing the Empress?!

OMG!

[cyncooper]

You are correct in your analysis and your call that we adopt a smart strategy to defeat her.

The fact is, she is viewed more benignly by the average person than those of us who follow her slimy trail would like to believe.

Case in point: My sister works so catches a bit of The Today Show in the morning and then Tom Brokaw at night to get an idea of what's going on in the world. She'll ask me for the inside scoop if some story catches her attention and she senses there's more to it.

When HRC returned from Iraq and appeared with Katie Couric the appearance was roundly mocked and dissected here on FR, but when I mentioned Couric's biased approach to the questioning, my sister agreed that Katie did appear to favor Hillary, BUT, she thought HRC was NICE about George W. Bush! My sister is not a Clinton fan and would not vote for her, but that was the impression she was left with.

[backhoe]

How do we go about organizing a FR Hillary file...

Here's an example of one I set up:

Hodgepodge O' Hillary

...but as another here sagely noted, this is all old stuff.

We need to unmask her.

And. as another noted, her supporters project their needs, wishes, and fantasies on Hillary- they are effectively unswayable.

We have to educate the mushy middle, who usually decides elections.

[Howlin]

Wow, turn on Fox.

(I think this might be a Klayman case?)

[The Wizard]

this bitch is below human....she is out here today showing her real self and it's disgusting........her comments about GWB are like Dean's full of gas

[backhoe]

Hi, Howlin- see #458!

[Peach]

I'm saving your links to my personal computer.

A bigger project is, how do we start a Hillary reference section on FR for all to access?

[Wait4Truth]

Dean seems to be hedging his bets with the Clintons. He has stated several times that if elected, he would send Bill Clinton to the ME to create a peace accord. Now, that is scary, indeed.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Catty note on Hillary!---she's visited Dr. Botox---for sure!

[Peach]

It's on...

[international american]

"It will take a grassroots effort all over the country. But it CAN be done. If each person, all over the country who really cares, takes the TIME to influence 20 or 30 folks in their neighborhoods, at their work, or in their families, etc., we could stop her. It just takes an effort by all of us. It's not difficult or complicated, but it must be done, and it will take all of us."

You win the cupie doll!! Yes, we will have a grassroots movement, and yes we will dispose of this wretch once and for all! Why? Because we HAVE to!!!!

[spokeshave]

"One clue that the interviewers have strayed from the script will be when she slips into "Ya know, " mode..."

And the converse.....

Head Bobbing indicates a question she (sp) has previously given the interviewer

[Howlin]

Well, yes, I can *see* it.......but how do we get started? Just have a list of all the threads we can find?

[Peach]

Didn't Alamo-Girl have a huge file on the Clintons that could be accessed by anyone using FR?

[Miss Marple]

Interview with Tonken's attorney. Covering the Rich pardons. Fox asks if the money went through Tonken from Rich to Clinton. Attorney won't comment but says he leaves it to reporters to speculate. (I found that answer quite interesting.) Also there is talk of the big name stars, who they won't name today, who profited from charitable fundraisers, but names will come out next week. Also, politicians profited from these charitable fundraisers.

Apparently stars and politicos were skimming from the money collected.

[maica]

If you have time, could you post the times that these shows are actually produced? The local channels air at different times, and the array of time zones make it impossible to deduce. Thanks.

[Mia T]

exactly. and some urgent damage control was her only reason for appearing...

Russert should shame himself. When the seditious creature complained about insufficient troop numbers, where was his followup about the clinton military slashes. What a dishonest wimp.

And gingrich, reverting to his familiar clinton-deferring form, was more dead weight than counterweight... pathetic.

[Peach]

IF the press does its job, this will be a huge story. Profiting personally from charitable fundraisers is viewed as one of the sleeziest tactics, and even the leftist press will have a hard time condoning this behavior.

[Tribune7]

I missed it.

[backhoe]

I'm saving your links to my personal computer. A bigger project is, how do we start a Hillary reference section on FR for all to access?

If you would, ping me later & I will explain the simple way to gather links using Outlook Express's "source" tab-- it's very simple & fast. I have a sick bird on my hands, and I am trying to figure out the "what next"-- we don't have any avian vets in my little city, so I'm dosing old Flea with erethromycin and hoping for the best.

[Peach]

Pathetic is right.

I simply could not believe that when she referred to Kosovo and Bosnia as the correct way to run a war, not one person asked her why we are still there, despite being assured by the former administration that the troops would be sent home in a matter of months.

Not one reporter asked her where all the mass graves were that the former administration assured us would be found. Thus far, I believe approx. 4,000 bodies have been found.

[Mo1]

THE DOWNSIDE LEGACY ARCHIVES
http://www.alamo-girl.com/

[The Wizard]

It's amazing to me how repulsive the beast is......why did they let her look like that on georgies show.....and what's with the lip sores under her bottom lip....

[Peach]

Okay; will do.

We're going to a cocktail party later, but I'll ping you later and hopefully will find your bird is in better health.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Hillary is smooth. She's building her resume and her husband's legacy.

And, no one this morning, save George Will, has questioned either.

[Peach]

Thanks for that link to Alamo-Girl's files.

That's what I have in mind for the Hillary file that we could all reference and access when writing about her.

[StriperSniper]

If only they'd let George Will have a go at her.

No, actually both Georges were questioning her. I had it on in the other room so I didn't hear much but her cackle loud and clear. I don't think Mr. Will got in anything she wasn't expecting since everything sounded smooth, no, "ya know"s.

[NittanyLion]

No one seems to get more undeserved respect on this forum than Hillary Clinton. It's like watching Duke basketball; their opponents are so convinced of Coach K's genius they're beaten before even taking the court. Instead of playing to their own strengths, Blue Devil opponents are trying to figure out how to adjust in order to beat Duke.

We attribute such sinister motives to the Clintons, as though they're evil geniuses. The fact is that they're politicians, nothing more, and their time is past. And I'm convinced their politican acumen has been overestimated since 1992. Just have confidence in our own folks' ability and it will turn out fine. There's no way Hillary is a legitimate threat in 2004.

[StriperSniper]

If only they'd let George Will have a go at her.

No, actually both Georges were questioning her. I had it on in the other room so I didn't hear much but her cackle loud and clear. I don't think Mr. Will got in anything she wasn't expecting since everything sounded smooth, no, "ya know"s.

[mathluv]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1003911/posts
Hillary Clinton 10-16-03 Senate Speech
http://thomas.loc.gov/home/thomas.html ^ | 10-16-03 | HILLARY CLINTON

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/834207/posts
HLLLARY RODHAM, U.S. Senate Armed Services Committee = Future Disasters
Posted on 02/01/2003 8:13 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE

[Yaelle]

Timmy is such a lousy host. He couldn't press a leaf in a book.

Chortling. Awesome expression!

[mathluv]

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3923fdd07554.htm
Hillary's delegates spit on and taunt Police Honor Guard at her Convention
Politics/Elections News Keywords: HILLARY'S RADICAL SUPPORTERS
Source: Albany Times Union Posted on 05/18/2000 07:27:28 PDT by 1Old Pro

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1032083/posts
Bagram G.I.: Troops Waited While Hillary Chowed Down
NewsMax.com ^ | 12/02/03 | Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1022571/posts
..HILLARY & TERRORISM's plan to regain the White House..
J.R. NYQUIST Website ^ | 11/09/2003 | RICHARD ROBERTS

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1003138/posts
PETER PAUL SUES BILL AND HILLARY CLINTON FOR FRAUD, CONSPIRACY, UNJUST ENRICHMENT
Judicial Watch ^ | Oct 16, 2003 | Press Office

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1008003/posts
Hillary Stonewalls AP's Questions on Peter Paul Lawsuit
NewsMax.com ^ | 10/25/03 | Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/962304/posts
Hillary Clinton's Biggest Cover-ups

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/926091/posts
Hilary – great cartoons

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/940060/posts
Hillary history

[backhoe]

I'll get back later- my old bird is sick and I'm trying to different antibiotics for him.

[Howlin]

Good luck!

[rintense]

I can't see her as a VP- she's too controlling and wants too much control. She'd completely overpower who'd ever pick her. Dean would be a fool if he picked her- and I don't think he would. A fool like Gephardt or Kerry would, though.

[Howlin]

Go Mia!!

[Howlin]

HAL9000 has a great source; he works continually to keep it updated.

http://www.freerepublic.com/~hal9000/

Also, click on the HILLARY link in the thread that backhoe posted.

[squidly]

Surprisingly, Stephanopoulos and Will gave her a tougher grilling than Russert did. Well, at least Will did.

[Peach]

Thanks for those links.

[Peach]

Thanks for the links on Hillary.

[Carolinamom]

I'll admit it's difficult to see her as VP, but remember that it is primarily an appointed position, an easily attained position, her specialty. Knowing, I'm sure, that she knows Bush will be re-elected, her long-range plan to position herself for '08 would be running now as dem VP.

Dean is not likely to do it, but who would he choose? Graham and Edwards have been mentioned as possible VPs in order to get Southern votes, but I personally can't see Edwards bringing in even his own home state of NC. As for Graham, I've never understood how anyone could vote for him even as dogcatcher.

[Peach]

I've already saved backhoes link to my Hillary file and will save HAL900's as well.

[Yaelle]

You are so right. Hillary is viewed quite benignly. I just spoke to my Democrat brother, who admits that he doesn't "like" Hillary but thinks she would make a great President because he says nice guys don't always make good presidents.

I have listened at my son's gymnastics class and at poolside in Hawaii as people who were reading her book discussed her. They feel for her and identify with her about "what her husband did to her." They think she is a great woman. I am not joking. There are a LOT of people out there who would vote for her.

Plus, Hillary has a secret. She KNOWS that the women's magazine and TV media have primed the pump for her. Women and girls, for the past 35 years, have been forcefed this cheerleading over women's achievements in industry and politics. Most uninformed women (and that means most women) have learned that the right answer is to want a woman President. Hillary's secret is that she knows she will get the votes of millions of women just by being a woman running for President. She will.

Don't kid yourselves. She is a formidable candidate, according to MANY. MANY.

Who thought she could WIN NEW YORK?

The only way to stop her would be serious proof of misdeeds. And she can spin all but a video of her shooting Vince. She is already chattering about the vast right wing conspiracy again. She's trying to cover everything in advance. She is very shrewd. Unelectable? When you spin right, no one is unelectable. We need to work very hard, should she become nominated at the convention, to produce clear facts that will awaken the unwashed masses to the real Hillary.

[Peach]

This is why we need a central location for all who want to access the Hillary files.

Alamo-Girl's files are beautifully catalogued and it's easy to find articles by category.

[FreeReign]

He did an absolutely stunning piece in Iran about the younger generation wanting freedom and peace; during a scene where they were walking down the street filming, a woman came out of nowhere and said, "Tell America to do for us what they have done for Afghanistan."

Away from the left wing TV cameras, the corrupt M.E. dictators and their screaming Muslim fanatics of The West Bank, Fullujah, Tehran, Mecca and other hot spots, that's what you find.

It's human nature, it's the majority -- even there -- and the sooner most here know that, the better off we will be. I find it stunning that some -- even here at FR -- don't recognize this. Instead they believe the propaganda that all the world hates us, and hates freedom because the NY Times wants us to think that.

Freedom for Iran.