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Officials boot 'God' from patriotic song
WND ^ | December 7, 2003 | Unknown

Posted on 12/07/2003 1:25:38 PM PST by Kaslin

Lee Greenwood's inspiring Gulf War anthem prompts questions about 'legality of lyrics'

''God Bless the U.S.A.,'' a patriotic anthem made popular by singer Lee Greenwood during the 1991 Gulf War, ignited a war of words between some parents and officials when it was learned an upcoming school performance would substitute the words ''I love'' for 'God bless.''

The show's directors decided to substitute ''I love the U.S.A.'' during rehearsals for the performance at Pacifica High School in Ventura County, California, when someone on the committee suggested the word ''God'' might be a ''problem.''

When angry parents found out about the change, some withdrew their children from the 'Cinemagic' program, while others wrote protesting e-mails to the school board and district leaders, reports the Ventura County Star.

''It's OK for you to say 'God,' '' parent Kaila Kaden told the paper. ''It's not a religious issue. It's a freedom of speech issue.''

The show's sponsor, the Pleasant Valley Education Foundation, provides support for bands, speech programs and choruses. Because it's not officially affiliated with the district, committee members decided to check with school officials to make sure the word ''God'' would not violate laws separating church and state.

The school board OK'd the original lyrics.

According to the paper, School Board President Ron Speakman said the situation was a misinterpretation of state law and district policy. While schools cannot advocate any certain religion, Speakman said laws do not forbid reference to God. ''It was a misguided attempt to be politically correct, and it has been rectified,'' Speakman said.

Committee chairwoman Peggy Smith said words have been changed before in the show's three-year history.

''We didn't want a lawsuit," Smith told the Star. "It could lead to the demise of Cinemagic and arts programs ... because of one word."

Sheila Myers was among the parents who wrote e-mails disagreeing with the words "I love the U.S.A."

She says she was moved to tears when she heard the children sing the song with "God" in the lyrics again.

''It just really moved me,'' she told the Star. ''It's one area in our lives not being tainted by political correctness.''


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Miscellaneous; US: California
KEYWORDS: god; godblesstheusa; leegreenwood; school

1 posted on 12/07/2003 1:25:39 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
''We didn't want a lawsuit," Smith told the Star. "It could lead to the demise of Cinemagic and arts programs ... because of one word."

to paraphrase a wise aphorism: All that is needed for the scum to triumph is for the sheep to remain gutless. Go on ahead, Smith, go on and pay the Danegeld, see if the Dane goes away.

2 posted on 12/07/2003 1:31:03 PM PST by King Prout (...he took a face from the ancient gallery, then he... walked on down the hall....)
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To: Kaslin
When a songwriter finds out their classic song is altered illegally to alter the message, that will become a NASTY fight.

Earlier this year another Nashville-based songwriter was engaged in a dispute after one of her classic songs was butchered with altered lyrics without her permission by a Filipino artist.

Mr. Greenwood would sue because the secularists have altered his song without his permission.
3 posted on 12/07/2003 1:31:33 PM PST by Bobby Chang
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To: Kaslin
I had a boss one time who handed me a stack of job applications and told me to throw out the ones who looked black. He quickly defended himself saying "It's not that I'M prejudiced but someone above me might be". This whole "removing God" thing reminds me of that. They always say it is because some OTHER person might be offended.
4 posted on 12/07/2003 1:32:00 PM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: Kaslin
Since Lee Greenwood wrote that song, he could likely prohibit its use under copyright, if he chose to.

Now, this is also less ridiculous than being upset about "In God We Trust" on money or the "One nation under God" in the Pledge, since both of those are officially sanctioned and traditional phrases, but Greenwood's song is now.
5 posted on 12/07/2003 1:32:36 PM PST by TheAngryClam (Don't blame me, I voted for McClintock.)
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To: TheAngryClam
er, not, not now.
6 posted on 12/07/2003 1:33:40 PM PST by TheAngryClam (Don't blame me, I voted for McClintock.)
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To: Kaslin
a patriotic anthem made popular by singer Lee Greenwood during the 1991 Gulf War

Wow, I didn't know the song was that recent. It just seems like it's always been here.

7 posted on 12/07/2003 1:33:59 PM PST by Sir Gawain
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To: Kaslin
Why not just say Satan Bless the USA and be done with it! This is the way it is going.
8 posted on 12/07/2003 1:34:11 PM PST by ladyinred (The Left have blood on their hands!)
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To: Kaslin
Our "framers" would be none to happy with this!
9 posted on 12/07/2003 1:41:18 PM PST by got_moab? (W went to Iraq on turkey day looking for a hot meal, Reed went to Afghanistan in search of a hot man)
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To: Kaslin
I truly hope a horrible disease strikes all the people that are violating our country and its principles.
10 posted on 12/07/2003 1:41:18 PM PST by INSENSITIVE GUY
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To: ladyinred
Up is down and down is up. Why can't everyone see that this world is going full speed towards destruction?
11 posted on 12/07/2003 1:41:24 PM PST by ImaGraftedBranch (Education starts in the home. Education stops in the public schools)
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To: King Prout; All
What gets me is that now instead the wishes of the majority being held, the minority get everything they want
12 posted on 12/07/2003 1:43:47 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Sir Gawain
I remember singing that song in Airborne School during the summer of 1986. I'd never heard it before, and not much until GWI in 1991.
13 posted on 12/07/2003 1:44:02 PM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: TheAngryClam
Now you all know how fearful school people are and how that fear makes common sense decisions in the school so rare.
14 posted on 12/07/2003 1:44:56 PM PST by RobbyS (XP)
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To: Kaslin
The "Dane" have always numbered less than those they extort for tribute.
15 posted on 12/07/2003 1:49:22 PM PST by King Prout (...he took a face from the ancient gallery, then he... walked on down the hall....)
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To: INSENSITIVE GUY
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1035782/posts

ask and ye might very well
receive what thou desirest, but
in living through the getting,
canst thou live with the smell?
16 posted on 12/07/2003 1:52:48 PM PST by King Prout (...he took a face from the ancient gallery, then he... walked on down the hall....)
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To: SJSAMPLE
I'm confused. When did the song first get released?
17 posted on 12/07/2003 1:54:14 PM PST by Sir Gawain
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To: Kaslin
I am glad to see that there are still some sane people willing to stand up and confront those who have taken political correctness to the extreme!
18 posted on 12/07/2003 1:54:37 PM PST by tapatio (People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought which they seldom use.)
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To: SJSAMPLE
God Bless The U.S.A. Words and Music by Lee Greenwood

© Copyright 1984 by MUSIC CORPORATION OF AMERICA, INC. & SONGS OF POLYGRAM INTERNATIONAL, INC.

All Rights Controlled and Administered by MUSIC CORPORATION OF AMERICA, INC.

19 posted on 12/07/2003 1:54:59 PM PST by SAJ
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To: Kaslin
''It was a misguided attempt to be politically correct,

Aren't they all?

Besides that, if I write a song with specific lyrics I'm not going to change them for ANYONE it would be my work and my work alone. Kerry 'em!

20 posted on 12/07/2003 1:59:36 PM PST by Looking4Truth
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To: Kaslin
You know what? These anti-religious, anti-freedom, law-suit-crazy folks and those who give in to them? They are gonna get what they DESERVE!!!!!

I'm old, I dont care, but when society slips in to satanic worship, anti-God, anti-law, anti-everything-holy...Society will GET what it deserves.

I'm tired of tryring to help, I WANT them to get the society they want, oh yes, I WANT the effing liberal pieces of kr@p to live in a socialist world..their children as well, oh yes, you effing liberals, take it!, yep! take it! destroy all that is decent, and LIVE with it A-HOLES!

I might have to live for awhile in the horrible- anti-christ world the liberals want, but when it is time for me to die, they will have to LIVE WITH IT! go for it, yep, go for it...some may spit on my grave, but I'll be dead, and I'll be LAUGHING at the world the liberal dem-socialists were allowed to create - cause THEY and their CHILDREN WILL SUFFER!!!! HURAHHHH!!!! They will have to live in the world...yep...they WILL get what they have asked for....HA HA HA...
21 posted on 12/07/2003 2:03:20 PM PST by Roughneck (". . .For there is going to come a time when people won't listen to the truth. . .")
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To: Kaslin
I would think Lee Greenwood would have something to say about this. I presume the program is using his music with implied or express permission, a permission which could be readily revoked if the officials refuse to remain true to the spirit of the song.
22 posted on 12/07/2003 2:07:14 PM PST by IronJack
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To: Kaslin
If I was Lee Greenwood and I found out that they changed the words in my song - I would have sued
23 posted on 12/07/2003 2:41:32 PM PST by rface (Ashland, Missouri - they said my FREEPER coffee mug is in the mail)
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To: rface
Altering song lyrics is technically copyright infringement.
24 posted on 12/07/2003 2:45:41 PM PST by rudy45
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To: Kaslin
Ventura County Star
Angry parents get 'God' back in song
25 posted on 12/07/2003 2:48:46 PM PST by concentric circles
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To: King Prout
Doors fan are ya?

FMCDH

26 posted on 12/07/2003 2:59:27 PM PST by nothingnew (The pendulum is swinging and the Rats are in the pit!)
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To: Sir Gawain; All
Lyrics and Midi to God Bless The USA by Lee Greenwood
27 posted on 12/07/2003 3:20:44 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: AppyPappy
Did you report him?
28 posted on 12/07/2003 3:26:05 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: Kaslin
These liberal sickos are conducting a hate war against America. These people will crush your freedom of speech and freedom of religion while flaunting theirs with public curses such as "God Damn it."
29 posted on 12/07/2003 3:28:12 PM PST by ghostrider
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To: Sir Gawain
I remember watching The Tonight Show in 1984 during the LA Olympics when Lee Greenwood debuted the song. I loved it.
30 posted on 12/07/2003 3:32:02 PM PST by petitfour
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To: Kaslin
"''God'' might be a ''problem.''"

With that attitude, God just might become a problem!

31 posted on 12/07/2003 4:13:34 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: Sir Gawain; SJSAMPLE
This song was played repeatedly and gave much comfort when the Challenger exploded after launch in Jan. '86.
32 posted on 12/07/2003 4:23:48 PM PST by ntnychik
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To: Bobby Chang
Not only that, one must have permission to use any copyrighted work for a public performance. How funny would it be if they never bothered to get permission.

Mr. Greenwood, your attorney is calling. He's hungry.
33 posted on 12/07/2003 4:29:14 PM PST by mabelkitty
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To: TheAngryClam
Tongue in cheek - if you voted Mcclintoc, you might be the problem if you live where I do!
34 posted on 12/07/2003 4:37:33 PM PST by Sunshine Sister
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To: Kaslin
Sickening.
35 posted on 12/07/2003 4:51:54 PM PST by yonif ("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
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To: Kaslin
Just one more reason Christians should pull their kids out of state-run schools.
36 posted on 12/07/2003 4:57:08 PM PST by Texas Eagle
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To: Sir Gawain
GOD BLESS THE USA
By: Lee Greenwood
Submitted By: imissu_dream@hotmail.com
If tomorrow all the things were gone,
I’d worked for all my life.
And I had to start again,
with just my children and my wife.

I’d thank my lucky stars,
to be livin here today.
‘Cause the flag still stands for freedom,
and they can’t take that away.

And I’m proud to be an American,
where at least I know I’m free.
And I won't forget the men who died,
who gave that right to me.

And I gladly stand up,
next to you and defend her still today.
‘Cause there ain’t no doubt I love this land,
God bless the USA.

From the lakes of Minnesota,
to the hills of Tennessee.
Across the plains of Texas,
From sea to shining sea.

From Detroit down to Huston,
and New York to L.A.
Well there's pride in every American heart,
and its time we stand and say.

That I’m proud to be an American,
where at least I know I’m free.
And I won't forget the men who died,
who gave that right to me.

And I gladly stand up,
next to you and defend her still today.
‘Cause there ain’t no doubt I love this land,
God bless the USA.

And I’m proud to be and American,
where at least I know I’m free.
And I won't forget the men who died,
who gave that right to me.

And I gladly stand up,
next to you and defend her still today.
‘Cause there ain’t no doubt I love this land,
God bless the USA.
37 posted on 12/07/2003 5:21:27 PM PST by BenLurkin (Socialism is Slavery)
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To: nothingnew
Jim had his moments.
38 posted on 12/07/2003 5:36:07 PM PST by King Prout (...he took a face from the ancient gallery, then he... walked on down the hall....)
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To: ntnychik
It's a great song and, IMHO, much better than some of the crap every talentless redneck seems to be putting out in order to capitalize on 9/11 or Operation Iraqi Freedom.

South Park said it best when they slammed Alan Jackson:
"Where were you when they built the ladder to Heaven. Did it make you cry, or did you think it was kind of gay?"
39 posted on 12/07/2003 7:16:34 PM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: SAJ
"© Copyright 1984 by MUSIC CORPORATION OF AMERICA, INC. & SONGS OF POLYGRAM INTERNATIONAL, INC.

All Rights Controlled and Administered by MUSIC CORPORATION OF AMERICA, INC. "

Two words:

The French! It is owned by Vivendi of France.
40 posted on 12/07/2003 7:28:19 PM PST by Bobby Chang
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To: BenLurkin
The words "lucky stars" have been replaced (legally) in choral usage with "my Lord God". I believe that has been permitted by Mr. Greenwood.

Here is an example of what happened when a Filipino artist was busted for infringement and altered lyrics over another popular song written by a Nashville songwriter:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1027421/posts

The result:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1027422/posts
41 posted on 12/07/2003 7:32:37 PM PST by Bobby Chang (In Christ, Bobby, Deut 31:6-8)
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To: Bobby Chang
Yah, I thought it was when I looked that up. No idea what the surrender monkeys think of revising the lyric to the tune (shrug), nothing worthwhile I'd suppose.

Song copyrights are really odd; at one time Paul McCartney owned the copyright to ''On Wisconsin'', and at another time Michael Jackson owned several copyrights on McCartney-Lennon songs.

Thanks for the confirmation, and I guess we won't either of us worry about this business too much (g!).

42 posted on 12/07/2003 9:54:22 PM PST by SAJ
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To: SAJ
Last I checked, Michael Jackson owned the copyrights to the entire Beatles catalog. One can hope that to pay for impending legal fees he will sell those copyrights - and, one may additionally hope, McCartney will be smart enough this time to buy them and keep his mouth shut about their availability.
43 posted on 12/08/2003 4:53:56 AM PST by King Prout (...he took a face from the ancient gallery, then he... walked on down the hall....)
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To: BenLurkin
And I’m proud to be and American, where at least I know I’m free. And I won't forget the men who died, who gave that right to me.

Minor point, but I never have liked that word choice -- veterans didn't *give* us our rights. I'd rather it said, 'who saved that right for me.'

44 posted on 12/08/2003 5:03:18 AM PST by Sloth ("I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!" -- Jacobim Mugatu, 'Zoolander')
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To: Texas Eagle
Just one more reason Christians should pull their kids out of state-run schools.

More than that.... we need separation of State and School.

Do it for the Children's education!!!!

45 posted on 12/08/2003 7:01:50 AM PST by The UnVeiled Lady
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To: rudy45
I know Steve. He works at a few different pharmacies in North Philly, hence, his needing a CCW permit.
46 posted on 02/25/2004 7:51:30 PM PST by dar1099
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To: Kaslin
I attended a memorial gathering for some of the Pentagon victims about a week after 9/11. Toward the end, they showed a PowerPoint presentation showing some of the victims in happier times juxtapositioned with pictures of the Pentagon after the attack with "God Bless The U.S.A." playing in the background and finishing with the picture of the firefighters lowering the American flag over the impact site.

I observed several soldiers and officers with tears in their eyes and, to be honest, I was a bit misty-eyed myself. This school system is gutless.

47 posted on 02/25/2004 8:06:24 PM PST by Jonah Hex (Another day, another DU troll.)
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