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| 12-07-03
| The Heavy Equipment Guy
Posted on 12/07/2003 3:44:56 PM PST by backhoe
The purpose of this post is to begin providing links, tools, and tactics which we can all use to educate the public, fellow citizens, and neighbors about Hillary Clinton.
It is a work in progress- I have provided a starting point, but want others to chime in with more links, stories, and information.
It is the product of conversations with a number of other members, from which several salient tactical points emerged:
1- keep it as contemporary as possible- the old Whitewater and similar items are stale and dead to the public.
2- keep it civil, please- within the board guidelines, or better. We are trying to convert the mushy middle, and stridency puts them off. Badly.
3- source or reference everything. Authenticity is critical to such an effort.
Here's where it started:
Links from this post:
487 posted on
12/07/2003 12:06:47 PM EST by
mathluv
HAL9000 has a great source; he works continually to keep it updated--
Paul takes the fall?
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861
posted on
11/08/2007 8:30:49 AM PST
by
backhoe
(Just a Merry-Hearted Keyboard PirateBoy, plunderin’ his way across the WWW…)
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862
posted on
11/08/2007 4:09:18 PM PST
by
backhoe
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Clinton is the parasitic twin of her husband...
USA Today reports on its latest Gallup polling that Hillary Clinton's negatives put her in the most precarious position in a general election than any other Democratic candidate. Eighty-five percent of Republicans, a majority of married men, and over a third of all women say they will never vote for the former First Lady, worse negatives than any other major contender running against her. While her strategist attempts to spin those numbers, Democrats may be getting nervous:
More than eight in 10 Republicans and more than half the married men in a new USA TODAY/Gallup Poll say they definitely wouldn't vote for Hillary Rodham Clinton for president. The poll provides an early snapshot of who's ruling out Clinton, John Edwards and Barack Obama, the three leading candidates for the Democratic nomination.
Clinton, who tops national polls of Democrats, is strongest within her party. Only 10% of Democrats said they'd rule her out; nearly three times as many said they wouldn't vote for Edwards.
The new poll found that Clinton would defeat the leading Republican, Rudy Giuliani, in a hypothetical matchup. Still, some Democrats wonder whether she's potentially unelectable or a drag on candidates lower on the ballot, and rivals such as Edwards say they're better bets.
Mark Penn tried to shine a little positive light on the polling. He claims that Hillary shows gathering strength against Republican contenders, making her the best choice for Democrats. The shifts seem negligible; the head-to-heads have mostly remained in the margin of error, making most of these dead heats anyway. Rudy and Hillary have exchanged leads all year long.
Penn neglects to take something else into account. The head-to-head polling represents a comparison between apples and oranges. People widely expect Hillary to win the Democratic nomination, so her inclusion in these polls show that calculus. The Republican primary is much more unsettled, and some of the polling answers will include a bias among Republicans and independents that reflects the unsettled nature of the contest. That is, people may be inclined by the passions of the campaign to say, "I may as well vote for Hillary if the GOP nominates [fill in the blank]", or be inclined to say they'll support a third-party candidate instead. Once the Republicans nominate an actual candidate, those numbers will change.
Unfortunately for Hillary, those numbers have only one direction to go. She has alienated too many voters over the years to expect a popular resurgence -- and she doesn't have the campaign style to start one, anyway. She lacks the charisma and charm of her husband, and her recent attempt to soften her approach hasn't exactly won converts. If the Republicans find a candidate that can unite the base and still appeal to independents and centrists disaffected with Hillary, the Democrats will lose their opportunity to take the White House away from the Republicans despite the historical trends that point to a win in 2008.
863
posted on
11/09/2007 5:00:14 AM PST
by
backhoe
(Just a Merry-Hearted Keyboard PirateBoy, plunderin’ his way across the WWW…)
To: backhoe
You do great work. I don’t think I’ve reminded you of that recently.
864
posted on
11/09/2007 5:01:55 AM PST
by
FreedomPoster
(Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
To: FreedomPoster
You do great work. I dont think Ive reminded you of that recently.I really appreciate that- I don't know how much good this does, but at least the information on this ghastly woman is available, for those interested.
Every time I see her lecturing us from behind a podium, I remember my first, hated ex-Mother-in-law...
865
posted on
11/09/2007 5:12:17 AM PST
by
backhoe
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BLUNDER PROVES SHE'S NO REAL NEW YAWKER--Flubba, and Bubba... two corrupt clowns...
and cheap, to boot:
"Americans of all political persuasions are coming to the sad realization that our first lady - a woman of undoubted talents who was a role model for many in her generation - is a congenital liar." William Saffire - NY Times January 1996
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866
posted on
11/09/2007 12:17:11 PM PST
by
backhoe
(Just a Merry-Hearted Keyboard PirateBoy, plunderin’ his way across the WWW…)
To: backhoe
The more the public experiences Hillary live the more they’ll turn off. The best case scenario is her piling up a first ballot nomination just as her national polls are tanking.
867
posted on
11/09/2007 12:22:29 PM PST
by
AU72
To: backhoe
Get use to it. If Rudy wins te Rep. Nom. most freepers have pledged not to vote.
Ive just been scrolling te site and cant believe the amount of folks that done care if clinton beats Rudy...Im shocked.
868
posted on
11/09/2007 12:25:28 PM PST
by
maineman
(BC Eagle fan)
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This is growing to Comic Opera ( or perhaps Clown Car ) dimensions:
November 9th, 2007
In case you havent heard, the Hillary Middle Class Express stiffed a waitress in Iowa the other day. The incident was first reported by those notorious rightwing conspirators at National Public Radio.
The report has caused such a stir that Hillarys latest (as of this hour) propaganda site is feverishly trying to spin (read lie) their way out of it.
From the hilariously named Fact Hub: Today, NPR reported that when Hillary and the campaign visited a Maid-Rite diner in Iowa, no one left a tip: Both of those claims are false. Heres the manager of Maid-Rite:
UPDATE: NPR has updated their report.But indeed NPR have updated their report, and it would seem that the Clinton camp are still lying:
Their exegesis on this event is downright hilarious. It boils down to feigned outraged at so much media coverage for such a petty story when there is a war on.
(And of course this isnt the first time that Hillary has neglected to tip a little person.) 4 Comments »
869
posted on
11/09/2007 4:06:07 PM PST
by
backhoe
(Just a Merry-Hearted Keyboard PirateBoy, plunderin’ his way across the WWW…)
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Hillary! is becoming the laughing stock of American politics...
Say it ain't so Joe...
November 10th, 2007
From FOX News:
Democratic presidential candidate Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY) delivers her policy speech during a campaign stop at the Renewable Energy Group in Newton, Iowa November 6, 2007.
Clinton Campaign Confirms Planting Town Hall
Clinton Campaign Confirms Planting Town Hall Question, Says It Wont Happen Again
Friday , November 09, 2007
By Major Garrett
SIOUX CITY, Iowa Democratic presidential frontrunner Hillary Clintons campaign admitted Friday that it planted a global warming question in Newton, Iowa, Tuesday during a town hall meeting to discuss clean energy.
Clinton campaign spokesman Mo Elliethee admitted that the campaign had planted the question
Funny how that works.
Now how will Fact Hub and Media Matters and her other lickspittle slavey apologists explain this? 5 Comments »
"Do we really want someone who leaves a $100 tip on a $157 meal running our country?"" It reads almost like a sitcom."
Hillary No Tipper:
Anita Esterday, a waitress at the Maid-Rite in Toledo, Iowa, told NPRs David Greene in a report that aired on Morning Edition Thursday that nobody got left a tip on Oct. 8, when Clinton sat at the lunch counter and ordered up the restaurants famous loose-meat sandwich.
No hypocrisy was involved, though, since she supports increasing the minimum wage.
JD, though, adds:
Dan, I read elsewhere that the Clinton group, in this particular instance, had a bill around $50, and left a $100 tip for the entire staff. I think someone shafted this waitress. I dislike Hill as much as the next, but in this instance, she should be criticized for trying to purchase votes, not for not tipping.
So, a 200% tip is pretty generous, Id say.
MayBee chimes in, and the plot thickens:
The always fabulous clarice at JOM posts this follow up (via NPR)
A Clinton campaign staffer called on Esterday at the restaurant Thursday after the story aired. The staff member apologized to her and gave her a $20 bill, according to Esterday. The Clinton campaign confirmed that visit. The campaign also produced photocopies of receipts showing $157.46 was paid to Maid-Rite on a VISA card on Oct. 8 for meals consumed by the candidates entourage. The tip was supposed to have been paid in cash, and the campaign insisted such a payment was made but has declined to make available a staff member who was present at Maid-Rite and left tip money.
Maid-Rites manager, Brad Crawford, said Thursday that while he was not present at the restaurant on Oct. 8, he knew that a bill was paid by the campaign that day. He also said that he believed three of six servers working that day received tips from people he thought were working for or affiliated with the Clinton campaign.
Crawford said he didnt know if campaign staffers meant for their tips to be distributed to everybody or whether they were meant only for individual servers.
The manager said he cant say for sure if Esterday was tipped for serving Clinton and her guests, Christie Vilsack and Ruth Harkin. (Vilsack is the wife of former Iowa Gov. Tom Vilsack and Harkin is the wife of Iowa Democratic Sen. Tom Harkin). But Crawford said he believes Esterdays account that she received no tip.
Where Hillary was sitting, there was no tip left, Crawford said.
The restaurant has a lunch counter, where Clinton and her guests were seated. Esterday and several other servers were working behind that counter. There are a dozen or so other booths and tables around the restaurant, and other servers were helping diners seated there.
Esterday, speaking to NPR from home later Thursday, said the Clinton campaign staffer who visited the diner apologized to her and said a $100 tip was left on a credit card the day of Clintons visit. Esterday said the staff member said the money was meant to be shared.
I explained to her that our credit card machine, you know, doesnt add on the tip, Esterday said. And she said, Well, then, they left a $100 bill there. And I said, Well, it didnt get divided up amongst us, because I had gotten nothing.
She just said, Well, there was one left, Esterday said. She just kept repeating, There was one left.
[b]After the campaign staffer stopped at the diner Thursday, Esterday said, the $100 tip was a hot topic.
Two others that had worked with me that day turned around and said, We didnt know about any $100 tip, because they both turned around and said We didnt get a part of it. And they didnt. So, its like OK, where did it go? Thats the mystery question: Where did it go?
Esterday said it would surprise her if money that was intended to be split among the staff was never shared.
The ladies that were working that day have been working there for years some of them for 30 years, some of them for 25 years, Esterday said. And Ive known a lot of these ladies most of my life living here, too. And I cant imagine them pocketing it.[/b]
(Emphasis supplied.)
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=16143435>NPR
Clarice observed:
I cant believe that it helps Hillary more that her staff is obviously trying to peg Iowa minimum wage earners as thieves rather than accept blame for not having taken care of this properly themselves.
Holy Mother of God. This is just so Clintonesque. I mean, who else can make going to lunch such a grotesquerie?
Sgt. Ted has thoughts on this matter:
The Clintons: Pathological Liars
This small story goes to show the casual mendacity and
chutzpah of the Clinton Campaign machine.
It was reported on Drudge that the Hillary Clinton stiffed a waitress at a lunch stop. There was a quick press release from HRCs campaign claiming that a $100.00 tip was left. On the face of it, it's hard to tell what the truth is. But, the story linked from NPR points up this:
Esterday(the waitress), speaking to NPR from home later Thursday, said the Clinton campaign staffer who visited the diner apologized to her and said a $100 tip was left on a credit card the day of Clinton's visit. Esterday said the staff member said the money was meant to be shared.
"I explained to her that our credit card machine, you know, doesn't add on the tip," Esterday said. "And she said, 'Well, then, they left a $100 bill there.' And I said, 'Well, it didn't get divided up amongst us, because I had gotten nothing.'
"She just said, 'Well, there was one left,'" Esterday said. "She just kept repeating, 'There was one left.'
After the campaign staffer stopped at the diner Thursday, Esterday said, the $100 tip was a hot topic.
"Two others that had worked with me that day turned around and said, 'We didn't know about any $100 tip,' because they both turned around and said 'We didn't get a part of it.' And they didn't. So, it's like 'OK, where did it go?' That's the mystery question: Where did it go?"
Esterday said it would surprise her if money that was intended to be split among the staff was never shared.
"The ladies that were working that day have been working there for years some of them for 30 years, some of them for 25 years," Esterday said. "And I've known a lot of these ladies most of my life living here, too. And I can't imagine them pocketing it."
The now
familiar pattern of
pathological dishonesty and
inability to deal with criticism is shown in the ever shifting story of the staffer talking with the waitress. First, it was left on the credit card. But, when it is pointed out that they don't allow tips on the credit card bills, the payment is then said to have been cash, but the campaign can't name anyone who actually left the money. Then when the accuracy of this is questioned, the staffer still insists that a tip was left. Unsaid is the presumption that the waitresses are dishonest backstabbers who screwed their colleagues out of their fair share of tip money.
They've even set up a
webpage to spin their denial in what seems to be "protesteth too much" moment than an attempt to set the record straight. Is that pathetic or what? Why don't just admit a mistake and correct it?
As Ben Franklin said. " The sting in a rebuke is the truth."
Posted by Dan Collins @
8:01 amComments (51) "According to NPR... three of the six waitresses report that they got stiffed."
Welcome to Hillary!Land... half get goodies, half get screwed...
"Hillary used this womans story on the campaign trail as an example of why the US should be more generous with the taxpayers money while she (Hillary) was being personally stingy.
Thats why I find it so fascinating. Its what I dont like about the Democrats in one little anecdote."
Clintons Leaving The White House
870
posted on
11/10/2007 3:36:06 AM PST
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backhoe
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11/10/2007 6:31:42 AM PST
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backhoe
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11/10/2007 7:23:42 AM PST
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11/10/2007 10:34:37 AM PST
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11/10/2007 12:56:45 PM PST
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November 10, 2007 10:20 AM by Michelle Malkin
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Fox News is reporting on another planting incedent by the Clinton campaign. Heres an excerpt and here the
link: "
For the second time in as many days, Hillary Clintons presidential campaign has had to deal with accusations of planting questions during public appearances."
875
posted on
11/10/2007 3:44:15 PM PST
by
backhoe
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OOPS: "For the second time in as many days, Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign has had to deal with accusations of planting questions during public appearances . . . . In a telephone interview Saturday, Geoffrey Mitchell, 32, said he was approached by Clinton campaign worker Chris Hayler to ask a question about how she was standing up to President Bush on the question on funding the Iraq war and a troop withdrawal timeline."
UPDATE: Tom Maguire: "The latest Hillarity about planted questions has me wondering what will happen to Hillary after she manages to lose the aura of inevitability."
"Second planted question story. Are her visits to restrooms scripted? I read a story yesterday where she and Obama don't hold press conferences and don't speak to their beat reporters on a daily basis as it used to be. She has been in the public areana since 1991 and she still can't risk an unscripted public encounter."
ANOTHER UPDATE: Heh: "She would have gotten away with it if it werent for those darn kids!"
Another plant?-- actually, I feel like an idiot for not having made the connection earlier -- but I first reported this same incident in Politico on April 3: A new New Hampshire poll has Hillary Clinton's lead cut by 11%! hillary's campaign is really coming apart at the seams.
That the story was broken by The Scarlet & Black, the Grinnell College student newspaper, says a lot about todays journalism.
Clinton Campaign Caught in Another Lie at InMuscatine Says:
[
] UPDATE : Don Surber : Hillary wants a Presidency with training wheels. And : Hillarys campaign promises it will never, ever happen again. The college paper and the story that scooped the MSM. Yeah, like thats hard to do.
"You want to be the person who sets the tone of our foreign policy and you cant handle a dumpy guy in a woolly pully?"
Another day, another sockpuppet! Hillary Clinton's campaign has been accused of trying to plant yet another question for an audience member to ask her. And they appear to be trying to lie about it as well.
November 10, 2007 08:30 PM by Michelle Malkin37 Comments And Clintons campaign digs their hole even deeper
would-be plantee DENIES campaigns explanation!
"I liken her plant epidemic to a roach infestation. For every one you see, theres probably a thousand more hiding under the fridge."
Why does this "Hillarity" with Hillarrhea! Matter?
The world is a dangerous, deadly place...
Having a CIC whose main goal is getting elected, and clinging to power ( consult the fruit of Clinton I & II if you doubt... ) is not going to help America stay safe.
Read & weep:
A Chinese attack submarine surfaced within torpedo range of the USS Kitty Hawk without having been detected by the American screening vessels.
When the U.S. Navy deploys a battle fleet on exercises, it takes the security of its aircraft carriers very seriously indeed.
At least a dozen warships provide a physical guard while the technical wizardry of the world's only military superpower offers an invisible shield to detect and deter any intruders.
That is the theory. Or, rather, was the theory.
American military chiefs have been left dumbstruck by an undetected Chinese submarine popping up at the heart of a recent Pacific exercise and close to the vast U.S.S. Kitty Hawk - a 1,000ft supercarrier with 4,500 personnel on board.
By the time it surfaced the 160ft Song Class diesel-electric attack submarine is understood to have sailed within viable range for launching torpedoes or missiles at the carrier.
According to senior Nato officials the incident caused consternation in the U.S. Navy.
The Americans had no idea China's fast-growing submarine fleet had reached such a level of sophistication, or that it posed such a threat.
One Nato figure said the effect was "as big a shock as the Russians launching Sputnik" - a reference to the Soviet Union's first orbiting satellite in 1957 which marked the start of the space age.
The incident, which took place in the ocean between southern Japan and Taiwan, is a major embarrassment for the Pentagon.
That classifies as a warning to America, Japan and Taiwan all at the same time. It also signifies that we have a problem. This is not as isolated an incident as it might appear. There have been multiple "surprises" in the past year. Some real, some not so much. The problem with the western left's obsession with navel gazing is that it exposes the back of the western neck to people that do not have good intentions. It really is not all about us. Other people have other agendas. Many of those agendas are not peaceful or friendly toward us.
(H/T to Fresh Bilge - who found the Crabitat last night and is now on the blogroll.)
Chinese Navy sub forces getting better, or US Navy getting worse...
876
posted on
11/11/2007 2:27:08 AM PST
by
backhoe
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Don't forget to lie --Maine legislators made a big mistake with the term-limits-weakening measure they referred to voters last Tuesday: they forgot to lie.
877
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11/11/2007 5:53:19 AM PST
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backhoe
(Just a Merry-Hearted Keyboard PirateBoy, plunderin’ his way across the WWW…)
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878
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11/11/2007 8:04:21 AM PST
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backhoe
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None. Instead, the govt will declare said citizens hate criminals and terrorists, and go after THEM, not the illegal invaders, whom they prefer to citizens.
879
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11/11/2007 9:00:47 AM PST
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backhoe
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11/11/2007 11:03:21 AM PST
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