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Cannibal's video reveals mutilation and slaughter (Warning:Graphic text)
The Times (UK) ^ | 12/09/03 | Roger Boyes

Posted on 12/08/2003 4:40:22 PM PST by saquin

(A sickened court sees on film the last agonies of an apparently willing victim)

GERMANY’S cannibal trial took on the air of a grim seance yesterday as the judges drew the courtroom blinds and watched a chilling home video of Armin Meiwes, the self-confessed man-eater, mutilating and killing his victim in preparation for a macabre feast.

“It wasn’t murder; it was a mercy killing,” an increasingly flustered Herr Meiwes told the court before the showing of the film. “I didn’t want to kill anybody or cause pain.”

Nonetheless, it took Bernd-Jürgen Brandes, the slaughtered computer software specialist, ten hours to die from the moment that his penis was severed with a butcher’s knife. The key episodes in this grisly crime were filmed by Herr Meiwes and 19 minutes of it were viewed in the court in Kassel yesterday: a grotesque spectacle that left the lawyers present speechless and green at the gills. A lay judge looked particularly unsteady as she left the darkened courtroom.

Journalists and the general public were barred from watching the film, but a court source gave a detailed account.

The cannibal and his victim are seen first in the kitchen; the conservation is mumbled, but is audible enough to confirm Herr Meiwes’s version of the bloody night in March 2001.

The film rolls: Herr Brandes urges Herr Meiwes to slice off the organ. The knife is too blunt. The camera is switched off until Herr Meiwes returns with a sharper instrument; the victim seems to be saying: “Get rid of it.”

For the defence, the scene is important, bolstering the argument of Herr Meiwes that Herr Brandes was a willing victim. Herr Meiwes emphasised yesterday that he had no interest — nor sexual pleasure — in killing his victim; he merely wanted to eat him.

“This was not a sexual thing — you have sex with a partner in bed, not with a piece of meat,” Herr Meiwes said.

On film, the camera shows him cooking the amputated organ; the victim, clutching his bandaged wound, seems to be watching passively.

The second sequence of the film was, if anything, more stomach-churning. After the amputation, Herr Brandes lies in a warm bath to drain himself of blood. Some hours pass, Herr Meiwes switches off the camera and reads a Star Trek adventure. By the time that the film resumes, Herr Meiwes is dressed in blue pyjamas. Underneath a butcher’s apron he wears the kind of heavy-duty rubber boots used in slaughterhouses. The room shown on camera is a chamber in the attic that once served as a place to smoke meat and sausages. Hooks hang from the ceiling. Herr Brandes is seen on the main table.

On one wall there is a cross of St Andrew and in the corner a wooden cage, both used by Herr Meiwes in earlier sado-masochistic games. A knife and a coiled rope are on a picnic table. The filmed movements are almost wordless, spectral.

In earlier testimony last week Herr Meiwes said that he was at first sure that his victim had already died or was very close to death after he had carried him upstairs and dumped him on the attic table.

The film shows him feeling the man’s pulse. “If you look at the video closely,” said a police superintendent testifying in court yesterday, “you can see Herr Brandes move his head. He is clearly still alive.” The victim can even be seen muttering some words that, according to the court transcript, are: “Put me out of my misery.”

Herr Meiwes is seen taking the knife from the picnic table and clumsily stabbing his victim’s throat. “I don’t remember Bernd’s words. I have a complete blackout about that moment,” the accused said.

The film is unclear, but it seems to support Herr Meiwes’s contention that he kissed his victim and said a prayer for him before stabbing him.

Fortunately, perhaps, for the queasy lawyers, the next segment of film has not yet been shown. This depicts Herr Meiwes decapitating the corpse. According to his own testimony, he talked to the head while cutting up the body.

Police testified yesterday that, in a search of the house, they had found little cocktail flags — the kind used to stick in cheese samples in supermarket promotions — marked with the names of body parts. These had been used in role-playing games with other men, who merely wanted to be threatened with cannibalism rather than undergo the real thing. These games acted as rehearsals for Herr Meiwes’s dissection of Herr Brandes.

A detective said yesterday that she had discovered a double bottom in the deep freeze and chunks of carefully marked meat that turned out to be body parts. When the policewoman opened the freezer, Herr Meiwes — who until then had been a courteous host — left the house and sought out a lawyer.

A central pillar of Herr Meiwes’s defence is that he is a one-off cannibal. He was searching for a substitute brother who he wanted inside him; this, he said, was so effective that he even found himself speaking better English after eating parts of Herr Brandes’s body, reflecting the superior language skills of his victim. There was, in short, no need to carry on eating people; one was enough.

Yet testimony in court yesterday showed that Herr Meiwes was still on the hunt for new victims after Herr Brandes’s death shortly before Easter 2001. By December 2002, the time of the police raid, Herr Meiwes had eaten almost all of the 20kg (44lb) of his deep-frozen victim.

An expert on cannibalism, the writer Jacques Buval, is sure that the single-victim defence is untenable. “Cannibalism is a serial crime,” he told The Times, “If they let him free, he’ll do it again.”

If Herr Meiwes, a 42-year-old former soldier, succeeds in persuading the court that he was just the instrument of Herr Brandes’s death wish, he faces a maximum of five years in jail. Marcus Kohler, the prosecutor, is likely to demand a life sentence.

Herr Kohler is trying to establish that Herr Meiwes is guilty of murder driven by sexual urges. His questions yesterday centred on whether Herr Meiwes derived sexual pleasure from watching the video, as the prosecution alleges, but which Herr Meiwes denies.

Herr Meiwes described his need to eat human flesh yesterday as a temporary, frenzied compulsion: “It was like a roundabout that span and span, quicker and quicker, so you couldn’t get off.”

The trial resumes on Friday.


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KEYWORDS: cannibalism; homosexual; homosexualvice; sexualperversion; weinerschnitzel
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Yikes. That's one jury I think I'd have to beg off of. I've read other articles about this story, but the description of the video is just.... damn. What a pair of freaks, both the cannibaliser and cannabalisee.
1 posted on 12/08/2003 4:40:23 PM PST by saquin
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To: saquin
Gives a whole new level of unwanted meaning to the time-worn schoolyard taunt: "Oh, yeah? Well...eat me!" :)
2 posted on 12/08/2003 4:47:49 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("The Clintons have damaged our country. They have done it together, in unison." -- Peggy Noonan)
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To: saquin
“It wasn’t murder; it was a mercy killing,” an increasingly flustered Herr Meiwes told the court before the showing of the film. “I didn’t want to kill anybody or cause pain.”

Oh, he's flustered? Good almighty God. This is insane, and I hope everyone who had to watch that video receives counseling.

3 posted on 12/08/2003 4:54:23 PM PST by TheSpottedOwl (I'd rather have dead rats in my walls, than Hillary for President.,)
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To: TheSpottedOwl
I love how the Euros are always whining about us vulgar Americans. They'll probably blame this wiener-fest on "Baywatch".
4 posted on 12/08/2003 4:59:53 PM PST by Callahan
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To: saquin
Wondered if the video would confirm what this monster told the authorities. Guess it does. This is not human. This is just pure evil.
5 posted on 12/08/2003 5:01:51 PM PST by ladyinred (The Left have blood on their hands!)
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To: saquin
Just take him outside and shoot him.

Oops. I forgot, he's in Europe. No capital punishment allowed. Oh well, I hope he doesn't do it again when they release him in a couple of years.

6 posted on 12/08/2003 5:03:23 PM PST by Bubba_Leroy
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To: saquin
Good thing the guy he ate wasn't Chinese.
7 posted on 12/08/2003 5:05:39 PM PST by Az Joe
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To: Az Joe
Tastes like chicken, anyways.
8 posted on 12/08/2003 5:15:54 PM PST by ThreeYearLurker
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To: saquin
Why oh why did I read this? I knew better. Yuck.

Makes you wonder when you are out in public, how close are you to sick people like this?
9 posted on 12/08/2003 5:19:44 PM PST by Lijahsbubbe (One person CAN change the world, but most of the time, you probably shouldn't)
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To: saquin
An expert on cannibalism, the writer Jacques Buval, is sure that the single-victim defence is untenable. “Cannibalism is a serial crime,” he told The Times, “If they let him free, he’ll do it again.”

That's just not true. I ate seven people in the 1980s, and I've hardly had even an arm or a leg since then.

11 posted on 12/08/2003 5:23:40 PM PST by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans
What, "Cannibal," "Mutilation" and "Slaughter" weren't tip-offs?
12 posted on 12/08/2003 5:24:18 PM PST by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: Bubba_Leroy
If they put him on death row, would he fantasize about eating himself?
13 posted on 12/08/2003 5:25:05 PM PST by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: saquin
The cannibalism is completely beside the point. It's the murder that gets me. Almost sounds as if the victim were perfectly willing.
14 posted on 12/08/2003 5:25:11 PM PST by Agnes Heep
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To: xm177e2
Is there a 12 step program for that?
15 posted on 12/08/2003 5:25:40 PM PST by Lijahsbubbe (One person CAN change the world, but most of the time, you probably shouldn't)
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To: saquin
Another European for therepy.
16 posted on 12/08/2003 5:28:43 PM PST by onedoug
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To: Agnes Heep
Well, I guess if the victim consented, there is nothing the authorities can do. After all, this was in the privacy of the guy's house. (sarcasm)
17 posted on 12/08/2003 5:31:50 PM PST by 07055
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To: xm177e2
I wasnt expecting a "play by play" of the video and the whole "cutting off the penis with blunt knife" deal
18 posted on 12/08/2003 5:33:36 PM PST by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: saquin
Germans always killing other Germans in the most brutal way.... can't wait to see what the old Krauts do next.
19 posted on 12/08/2003 5:34:37 PM PST by Porterville (No communist or french)
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To: xm177e2
What, "Cannibal," "Mutilation" and "Slaughter" weren't tip-offs?

Just for the sake of clarity, it was more than just the tip off.

20 posted on 12/08/2003 5:41:55 PM PST by IncPen ( If it's bad for the Clintons it's good for the rest of us)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans
I wasnt expecting a "play by play" of the video and the whole "cutting off the penis with blunt knife" deal

(Jack Nicholson voice:)

"You can't handle the truth!"

Thanks, I'll be here all night.

21 posted on 12/08/2003 5:43:10 PM PST by IncPen ( If it's bad for the Clintons it's good for the rest of us)
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To: saquin
no need to carry on eating people; one was enough.

Well, then. I guess it's OK.

22 posted on 12/08/2003 5:46:53 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (France delenda est)
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To: ladyinred; saquin
Here is an earlier thread with additional details: Homosexual Cannibal Admits To Eating Victim
23 posted on 12/08/2003 5:50:50 PM PST by Stop Legal Plunder
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To: ladyinred
"This is just pure evil"

Although words fail me you have summed it up nicely.

This is raw, satanic, unadulterated EVIL coming from the bowls of Satan himself.
24 posted on 12/08/2003 6:00:28 PM PST by TSgt (I am proudly featured on U.S. Rep Rob Portman's homepage: http://www.house.gov/portman/)
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To: MikeWUSAF
The cannibal was a soldier?

I wonder if he was in Kosovo?

This is surely not his first victim...not at the age of 42.
25 posted on 12/08/2003 6:09:53 PM PST by Palladin (Proud to be a FReeper!)
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To: saquin
Well, you know, these things happen. I mean, how many of us haven't found ourselves in this kind of situation?
26 posted on 12/08/2003 6:13:40 PM PST by zook
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To: MikeWUSAF
Guarantee you both these guys are (were) gay.
27 posted on 12/08/2003 6:15:40 PM PST by Contra
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To: MikeWUSAF
Guarantee you both these guys are (were) gay.
28 posted on 12/08/2003 6:17:02 PM PST by Contra
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To: xm177e2
That's just not true. I ate seven people in the 1980s, and I've hardly had even an arm or a leg since then.

LOL!

29 posted on 12/08/2003 6:22:50 PM PST by dware (ingredients include mechanically separated chicken and beef parts)
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To: saquin
I wonder what they'd give me for going over there and plugging this So and So for them. Most likely 5 to 10 instead of an award. I'd do this creep and never think anything of it. Blow him straight to heaven and let him float back down to hell.
30 posted on 12/08/2003 6:26:28 PM PST by crz
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To: Agnes Heep
The internet makes it much easier for these psychos to meet up...
31 posted on 12/08/2003 6:27:45 PM PST by ItisaReligionofPeace (I'm from the government and I'm here to help.)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans
Hey, you takes your chances when you decide to read an article with "Cannibal's video reveals mutilation and slaughter" as the title.
32 posted on 12/08/2003 6:30:38 PM PST by nuconvert ("There's no point playing Christmas jingles in a section selling sausages.")
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To: saquin
Don't I recall hearing that there were some hungry lions and tigers at the Baghdad zoo? Seems like two problems could be solved at once here.
33 posted on 12/08/2003 6:32:18 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: saquin
If the queers and child molestors get their way, this will be accepted behavior in the near future.
34 posted on 12/08/2003 6:41:20 PM PST by mrfixit514
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To: Callahan
>>I love how the Euros are always whining about us vulgar Americans. <<

Or, like during the Monica days..."The Europeans are laughing at us because of our morality."

Demonic.
35 posted on 12/08/2003 6:51:07 PM PST by SerpentDove (www.neatophotos.com)
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To: Agnes Heep
>>Almost sounds as if the victim were perfectly willing.
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This isn't an isolated case. From what I understand, this is a trend in the German homosexual community. And I'm not kidding.
36 posted on 12/08/2003 6:53:07 PM PST by SerpentDove (www.neatophotos.com)
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To: saquin
Wieners - they're not just for Fruehstuck anymore...
37 posted on 12/08/2003 6:55:13 PM PST by bwteim (BWTEIM=Begin With The End In Mind)
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To: saquin
Sort of brings" Silence of the Lambs" to mind. Yuck
38 posted on 12/08/2003 6:59:51 PM PST by celtic gal (sweet)
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To: saquin
A detective said yesterday that she had discovered a double bottom in the deep freeze

Uh, nevermind.

39 posted on 12/08/2003 7:03:18 PM PST by GnL
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To: SerpentDove
I've seen some pretty grotesque things in my day, but I'm too sure I'd want to see that video.
40 posted on 12/08/2003 7:09:11 PM PST by Agnes Heep
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To: GnL
LOL! I had to read that sentence about 3 times before I understood what it meant, too.

How about this one?

"Herr Meiwes emphasised yesterday that he had no interest — nor sexual pleasure — in killing his victim; he merely wanted to eat him."

Hey, I don't want to hurt you, I just want to have you for lunch.
41 posted on 12/08/2003 7:19:27 PM PST by wimpycat ("I'm mean, but I make up for it by bein' real healthy.")
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To: Az Joe
Sure was because he would have been hungry again in 30 mins.
42 posted on 12/08/2003 7:20:07 PM PST by U S Army EOD (When the EOD technician screws up, he is always the first to notice.)
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To: saquin
Ugh. Love life or love death... it's obvious which side these two were on.
43 posted on 12/08/2003 7:25:32 PM PST by grimalkin (All wisdom is not new wisdom. - Winston Churchill)
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To: saquin
Herr Brandes urges Herr Meiwes to slice off the organ. The knife is too blunt. The camera is switched off until Herr Meiwes returns with a sharper instrument; the victim seems to be saying: “Get rid of it.”

Feminist influence must be heavy in Germany.

44 posted on 12/08/2003 7:25:32 PM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: saquin
We need to ban knives.
45 posted on 12/08/2003 7:29:10 PM PST by wi jd
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To: wi jd
and teeth.
46 posted on 12/08/2003 7:44:03 PM PST by 07055
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To: Agnes Heep
I'll probably have nightmares as it is.

Can you imagine being that given over to darkness?

Shudder.
47 posted on 12/08/2003 7:56:38 PM PST by SerpentDove (www.neatophotos.com)
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To: GnL
Could have had a nice rump-roast.
48 posted on 12/08/2003 7:57:43 PM PST by SerpentDove (www.neatophotos.com)
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To: saquin
If anyone has any doubts that we are living in the very last days, then this should dispel those doubts. Heavenly father, please forgive them.
49 posted on 12/08/2003 8:01:51 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: zook
I mean, how many of us haven't found ourselves in this kind of situation?

I never have. Not even once. I keep my knives properly sharp, thank you.

50 posted on 12/08/2003 8:10:00 PM PST by Billthedrill
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