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Stone Age Sites Found Under North Sea (8,000BC)
University Of Newcastle On Tyne ^ | 9-12-2003

Posted on 12/09/2003 5:30:54 PM PST by blam

Stone Age sites found under North Sea

Date released 12 September 2003

Experts have discovered the first ever evidence of Stone Age settlements in the British North Sea, dating back as far as 10,000 years. Subject to further investigation, one of them could be the earliest underwater archaeological site in the UK.

The exciting find, discovered by accident by a team from the University of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK, could lead to a rewriting of the history books and revolutionise our understanding of the way our ancestors lived.

The discovery of several stone artefacts, including tools and arrowheads, have pinpointed two 'submerged sites' - as archaeologists call them - off the coast of Tynemouth, near Newcastle upon Tyne in North East England, as potential Mesolithic settlements. Mesolithic people were hunter-gatherers and lived in the Middle Stone Age - the era between the end of the last Ice Age, ten thousand years ago, until the start of the agricultural revolution, five thousand years ago.

One site dates back to the late Mesolithic period (8,500 to 5,000 years ago), while the other, found further out to sea at the end of a of a long, rocky outcrop which would have once been a small cliff face, is thought to be early Mesolithic (8,500 to 10,000 years ago).

Both sites would once have been on dry land but have been gradually submerged as sea levels rose following the end of the last Ice Age.

An archaeological team, from the University's School of Historical Studies, discovered the sites by accident while they were training to enable them to look for suspected submerged sites elsewhere on the British coast as part of an Arts and Humanities Research Board project.

The flint artefacts they have found at the sites, which are under up to eight metres of water, range from a core, which was used to make knives and other sharp objects, to a microlith - the experts' word for an arrowhead.

This is only the second such find in the UK. An early Mesolithic site has been discovered in the Solent near Southampton, and because so little evidence of submerged sites exists, archaeologists know little about these early coastal dwellers.

Dr Penny Spikins, who is leading the international research team behind the Submerged Prehistoric Landscapes Project, said: "Archaeologists thought that the sites left by people who lived five to ten thousand years ago had simply been lost to the sea but our finds could change our understanding of the earliest occupation of the British Isles."

Explaining how the find came as a surprise, she said: "I was learning to scuba dive and was in the middle of a training session in the sea when I noticed lots of pieces of flint beneath me, on the sea bed. To the average person they would seem like ordinary stones you would find on the beach, but to a specialist they were something very exciting indeed.'

David Miles, chief archaeologist, English Heritage, said: “This is a tremendously exciting discovery. We know that there is a prehistoric Atlantis beneath the North Sea where once an area equal to the size of present day Britain attached us to the continent and where prehistoric people and animals roamed.'


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1 posted on 12/09/2003 5:30:55 PM PST by blam
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To: farmfriend; RightWhale
Ping.
2 posted on 12/09/2003 5:31:45 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
They must have been really good swimmers.
3 posted on 12/09/2003 5:36:35 PM PST by DallasMike
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To: blam
Pre-historical global warming drowned vast regions of European low lands, such as the North Sea where Britain was linked to the Continent. Must have been all those Fred Flintstone SUVs and the evil paleolithic corporate giants.
4 posted on 12/09/2003 5:40:35 PM PST by friendly (Man is so made that whenever anything fires his soul, impossibilities vanish.)
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To: blam
One site dates back to the late Mesolithic period (8,500 to 5,000 years ago), while the other, found further out to sea at the end of a of a long, rocky outcrop which would have once been a small cliff face, is thought to be early Mesolithic (8,500 to 10,000 years ago). Both sites would once have been on dry land but have been gradually submerged as sea levels rose following the end of the last Ice Age.


Blam, I knew it was you when I read the Headline.
Do you suppose that they had "Global Warming" that raised the sea level?
Did those humans produce too much Co2?
(I lived on the Eastern Shore of the Bay in Daphne)

5 posted on 12/09/2003 5:44:11 PM PST by jrushing
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To: blam
Wow. Another advancement in the field of science.
6 posted on 12/09/2003 5:51:14 PM PST by Killborn (I'd rather have Big Bizniz than Big Guvmint.)
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To: jrushing
"Do you suppose that they had "Global Warming" that raised the sea level?"

Sure. The same global warming we have now. We're not out of the last ice age yet.

Daphne is a nice area, I'm on the west bay.

7 posted on 12/09/2003 6:15:06 PM PST by blam
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To: jrushing; blam
Kinda makes you wonder what other ancient civilizations are now submerged?
8 posted on 12/09/2003 6:35:17 PM PST by BenLurkin (Socialism is Slavery)
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To: jrushing
..... a very big flood would just about do it.
9 posted on 12/09/2003 6:51:26 PM PST by Down South P.E.
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To: blam
We know that there is a prehistoric Atlantis beneath the North Sea where once an area equal to the size of present day Britain attached us to the continent and where prehistoric people and animals roamed.'


ATLANTIS FOUND!
10 posted on 12/09/2003 6:56:12 PM PST by tet68
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To: BenLurkin
"Kinda makes you wonder what other ancient civilizations are now submerged?"

A couple more mentioned in this posting.

Submerged City May Be Older Than Mesopotamia

11 posted on 12/09/2003 6:57:27 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
Hm mmm . . .
12 posted on 12/09/2003 6:58:41 PM PST by BenLurkin (Socialism is Slavery)
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To: blam
bump
13 posted on 12/09/2003 7:05:04 PM PST by Ciexyz
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To: blam
I wonder what the climate was like up that way about 10,000 years ago. The English channel must have been a creek about that time.
14 posted on 12/09/2003 7:49:25 PM PST by dr_who_2
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To: dr_who_2
"I wonder what the climate was like up that way about 10,000 years ago. The English channel must have been a creek about that time."

I'm sure the answer is on the internet...but, I'll accept that it was a creek...maybe a small river.

15 posted on 12/09/2003 8:12:47 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
Both sites would once have been on dry land but have been gradually submerged as sea levels rose following the end of the last Ice Age.

That's what they deserve for driving SUVs.

16 posted on 12/09/2003 8:16:41 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Proud member - Neoconservative Power Vortex)
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To: blam; *Gods, Graves, Glyphs; abner; Alas Babylon!; Andyman; annyokie; bd476; BiffWondercat; ...
Gods, Graves, Glyphs
List for articles regarding early civilizations , life of all forms, - dinosaurs - etc.

Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this ping list.

17 posted on 12/09/2003 8:32:10 PM PST by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: jrushing
Maybe they farted a lot.
18 posted on 12/09/2003 8:44:55 PM PST by mathurine
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To: mathurine; shaggy eel
This isn't New Zealand we are talking about.
19 posted on 12/09/2003 8:58:10 PM PST by Little Bill (The Bard of Avon Rules, The Duke of Cambridge was a Mincing Quean.)
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To: farmfriend
Please add me to the list.
20 posted on 12/10/2003 1:18:35 AM PST by jimtorr
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To: DallasMike
You owe me a new monitor and keyboard.................
21 posted on 12/10/2003 1:23:55 AM PST by RightOnline
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To: blam
Global Warming must have did them in! he he he
22 posted on 12/10/2003 1:24:42 AM PST by Fledermaus (Fascists, Totalitarians, Baathists, Communists, Socialists, Democrats - what's the difference?)
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To: jimtorr
Consider yourself added. If you ever change your mind, or I get you on the wrong list, just let me know.
23 posted on 12/10/2003 8:53:58 AM PST by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: Little Bill
,,, did you hear the "fart tax" plan has been dropped like what follows a fart?
24 posted on 12/10/2003 11:22:00 AM PST by shaggy eel
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To: shaggy eel
Yeah, but the reply reminded me of the Idiots running amock in the English speaking world and your boys (girls) popped into my head, had to share.
25 posted on 12/10/2003 11:36:20 AM PST by Little Bill (The Bard of Avon Rules, The Duke of Cambridge was a Mincing Quean.)
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To: Little Bill
,,, good on ya mate! [LOL]
26 posted on 12/10/2003 12:56:29 PM PST by shaggy eel
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To: blam
These are found in several places around the world. submerged cities. Where'd all the extra water come from?
27 posted on 12/10/2003 1:45:39 PM PST by Havoc (If you can't be frank all the time are you lying the rest of the time?)
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To: farmfriend
Be kind enough to add me to your ping list.

Thanks
28 posted on 12/10/2003 1:55:21 PM PST by Koppite
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To: Koppite
Consider yourself added. If you ever change your mind, or I get you on the wrong list, just let me know.
29 posted on 12/10/2003 1:56:46 PM PST by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: farmfriend
Please add me to the G­³ list as well.

Many thanks,
CD

30 posted on 12/10/2003 1:58:16 PM PST by Constitution Day (Thomas: "Apparently, the marketplace of ideas is to be fully open only to defamers, nude dancers...")
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To: Constitution Day
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31 posted on 12/10/2003 1:59:09 PM PST by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: Havoc

32 posted on 12/10/2003 4:59:48 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
Nice map. Where'd all the extra water come from.
33 posted on 12/11/2003 4:29:09 AM PST by Havoc (If you can't be frank all the time are you lying the rest of the time?)
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To: blam
This glaciation may well come again and again.

It will mean war as northerners must migrate south.

IMHO, such repeated climate forced migrations bred territorial wars into our genes. Survival of the fittest and fiercest.

The Brits could move to Baja Land's End. The Germans would surely take France again again.
34 posted on 12/11/2003 4:41:37 AM PST by SevenDaysInMay (Federal judges and justices serve for periods of good behavior, not life. Article III sec. 1)
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To: Havoc
It's from that super secret water plant in every city. They make water there. Usually they hide them on the other side of town.
Problem is there isn't enough water disposal sites. The water keeps running away at the dump.
35 posted on 12/11/2003 4:49:27 AM PST by Quick Shot
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To: SevenDaysInMay
... and New Yorkers - Miami....
36 posted on 12/11/2003 4:50:43 AM PST by Quick Shot
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To: Prof Engineer
ping
37 posted on 12/11/2003 7:33:02 AM PST by msdrby (US Veterans: All give some, but some give all.)
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To: SevenDaysInMay
"IMHO, such repeated climate forced migrations bred territorial wars into our genes. Survival of the fittest and fiercest."

Yup. The survivers who are in place will homoginize(sp) and become a group with a dinstict identity the ice will melt and we'll be trying to figure out who we are again.

38 posted on 12/11/2003 12:05:04 PM PST by blam
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To: Quick Shot
Two non-answers. Any takers at all? Multiple cities submerged under varying depths of water. One at least 80 feet. So where'd all the extra water come from.
39 posted on 12/11/2003 12:37:19 PM PST by Havoc (If you can't be frank all the time are you lying the rest of the time?)
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To: DallasMike
BTTT
40 posted on 02/06/2004 5:14:15 PM PST by carpio
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To: Battle Axe
Try this theory--there was a water canopy which encircled the earth, thus raising barometric pressure a lot, and filtering out damaging ultra violet rays, such that people lived a really long time. Then something happened, the fountains of the deep opened, and the water canopy in the sky rained down for forty days and nights, basically disappearing forever, the water level of the whole earth was raised several feet, and man no longer lived to be 500 years old.
42 posted on 02/15/2004 4:43:16 PM PST by esquirette (Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there.)
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To: Battle Axe
"There is certainly something going on inside the earth, causing earthquakes and such."

Yes, there is something going on that is called "Plate Tectonics." Do a google on that phrase and you will learn more than you presently know.
44 posted on 02/15/2004 6:52:24 PM PST by LaMudBug
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To: mathurine
Maybe they farted a lot.

Or had really big cows back then.

45 posted on 02/15/2004 8:56:57 PM PST by Ophiucus
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To: blam
Experts have discovered the first ever evidence of Stone Age settlements in the British North Sea, dating back as far as 10,000 years.


46 posted on 02/15/2004 9:01:33 PM PST by Polybius
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To: Havoc
These are found in several places around the world. submerged cities. Where'd all the extra water come from?

What "extra water"?

Coastlines change, landmasses shift, rise, and fall, the ice caps expand and contract. The Earth is a dynamic system.

47 posted on 02/15/2004 9:01:34 PM PST by Ophiucus
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To: Ophiucus
Nice general dodge. Where'd all the extra water come from?
49 posted on 02/16/2004 4:31:28 AM PST by Havoc ("Alright; but, that only counts as one..")
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To: blam
Any depth reported?
50 posted on 02/16/2004 4:40:54 AM PST by johnny7 (C'mon! You sons 'o bitches wanna live forever!?)
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