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Has Bush betrayed GOP values?
The Desert Sun ^

Posted on 12/10/2003 11:33:12 AM PST by Stew Padasso

Edited on 05/07/2004 5:43:37 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

"The majority of Repub-licans, at the urging of the president and GOP congres-sional leaders, voted for the $7 trillion prescription drug entitlement to become the nationís new welfare-state party, depriving the Democrat Party of its sole claim as champion of big government."


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1 posted on 12/10/2003 11:33:12 AM PST by Stew Padasso
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To: Stew Padasso
GOP values? Good one. LOL

Richard W.

2 posted on 12/10/2003 11:35:10 AM PST by arete (Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.)
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To: Stew Padasso
Has Bush betrayed GOP values?

No, he seems to be sticking with the values of todays GOP....record pork barrel spending, suppression of free speech before elections, bigger, more intrusive government....

3 posted on 12/10/2003 11:35:51 AM PST by Orangedog (difference between a hamster & a gerbil?..there's more dark-meat on a hamster!)
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To: Orangedog
But he stuck to his campaign promises. ;)
4 posted on 12/10/2003 11:36:48 AM PST by Stew Padasso (Head down over a saddle.)
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To: Stew Padasso
Has Bush betrayed GOP values?

yes he has, we cannot wait for next november so as to vote for the Dean\Hitlery ticket to save us

5 posted on 12/10/2003 11:37:07 AM PST by RckyRaCoCo
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To: Stew Padasso
Now we know what it is like to be a black Democrat
6 posted on 12/10/2003 11:38:40 AM PST by thoughtomator (The U.N. is a terrorist organization)
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To: RckyRaCoCo
Here's the difference between the two parties:

If the dems had the votes, they would vote to scrap the bill of rights, effective immediately...for the children.

The GOP would denounce this move as "extreme" and instead offer their proposal to phase out the bill of rights over the next five years....for the children.
7 posted on 12/10/2003 11:40:16 AM PST by Orangedog (difference between a hamster & a gerbil?..there's more dark-meat on a hamster!)
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To: Stew Padasso
Like we were expecting a politician to tell us the truth.
8 posted on 12/10/2003 11:42:43 AM PST by Orangedog (difference between a hamster & a gerbil?..there's more dark-meat on a hamster!)
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To: Stew Padasso
I am hoping that Bush's "less than conservative" policies are a result of his very narrow victory to the White House. In his efforts to keep republicans in power for at least eight years, he has reached so far across the aisle that he is indistinguishable from a moderate democrat.

A good portion of the deficit spending can be attributed to losses suffered throughout the business community after 9-11, and the resulting war on terror.

The medicare, however, is a farce, as is the excessive pork spending that he refuses to veto.

9 posted on 12/10/2003 11:43:02 AM PST by bjcintennessee (Don't Sweat the Small Stuff)
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To: Stew Padasso

Presidency of George W. Bush -- the first 34 months

 

Banned Partial Birth Abortion

Reversed Clinton's move to strike Reagan's anti-abortion Mexico Policy

Killed the Kyoto Global Warming Treaty

Killed U.S. involvement in the International Criminal Court

Killed Clinton's CO2 rules that were choking off all of the electricity surplus to California.

Killed Clinton's "ergonomic" rules that OSHA was about to implement; rules that would have shut down every home business in America.

Killed the U.S. - CCCP ABM Treaty that was preventing the U.S. from deploying our ABM defenses


Has CONSTRUCTION in process on the first ten ABM silos in Alaska so that America has a defense against North Korean nukes

 

Pushed through THREE raises for our military.

Increased Defense Dept funding which had deteriorated during the previous 8 years

 

Stopped foreign aid that would be used to fund abortions.

Supported and upheld the ban on abortions at military hospitals

Signed E.O. reversing Clinton's policy of not requiring parental consent for abortions under the Medical Privacy Act

Signed TWO bills into law that arm our pilots with handguns in the cockpit

Currently pushing for full immunity from lawsuits for our national gun manufacturers

Ordered Attorney-General Ashcroft to formally notify the Supreme Court that the OFFICIAL U.S. government position on the 2nd Amendment is that it supports INDIVIDUAL rights to own firearms, NOT a leftist-imagined *collective* right


Told the United Nations we weren't interested in their plans for gun control (i.e. the International Ban on Small Arms Trafficking Treaty)

Successfully executed 2 wars: Afghanistan and Iraq. 50 million people who had lived under tyrannical regimes now live in freedom

 

Executed a WAR ON TERROR by getting world-wide cooperation to track funds/terrorists (has cut off much of the terrorist's funding and captured or killed many key leaders of the al Qaeda network)

 

Brought back our EP-3 intel plane and crew from China without any bribes or bloodshed

Started withdrawing our troops from Bosnia and has announced withdrawal of our troops from Germany and the Korean DMZ.

Signed the LARGEST nuclear arms reduction in world history with Russia

Initiated comprehensive review of our military, which was completed just prior to 9/11/01, accurately reported that ASYMMETRICAL WARFARE was critical.

Changed the tone in the White House, restoring HONOR and DIGNITY to the Presidency

Reorganized bureaucracy...after 9/11, condensed 20+ overlapping agencies and their intelligence sectors into one agency: the Department of Homeland Security.

Initiated discussion on privatizing Social Security and individual investment accounts.

Improving govt. efficiency with .8 million jobs put up for bid...weakening unions and cutting undeserved pay raises. Wants merit based promotions/raises only.

Orchestrated Republican control of the White House, the House AND the Senate.

Killed the liberal ABA's role in vetting federal judges for Congress.

GWB signed an executive order enforcing the Supreme Court's Beck decision (re: union dues being used for political campaigns against individual's wishes)

Turned around an inherited economy that was in recession.

Passed tough new laws to hold corporate criminals to account as a result of corporate scandals.

Signed 2 income tax cuts ---- 1 of which was the largest Dollar value tax cut in world history


Reduced taxes on dividends and capital gains

In process of eliminating IRS marriage penalty.

Increased small business incentives to expand and to hire new people


Signed into law the No Child Left Behind legislation delivering the most dramatic education reforms in a generation (challenging the soft bigotry of low expectations)

Reorganized the INS in an attempt to safeguard the borders and ports of America and to eliminate bureaucratic redundancies and lack of accountability.

Signed trade promotion authority

Committed US funds to purchase medicine for millions of men and women and children now suffering with AIDS in Africa

Passed Medicare Reform (authorized $39.5 Billion per year for preventive medicine such as drugs and doctor visits as well as included a ten year Privatization option)

Urging federal liability reform to eliminate frivolous lawsuits

Supports class action reform bill which limits lawyer fees so that more settlement money goes to victims

Submitted comprehensive Energy Plan--awaits Congressional action (works to develop cleaner technology, produce more natural gas here at home, make America less dependent on foreign sources of energy, improve national grid, etc.)

Endorses and promotes The Responsibility Era ("In a compassionate society, people respect one another and take responsibility for the decisions they make in life. My hope is to change the culture from one that has said, if it feels good, do it; if you've got a problem, blame somebody else -- to one in which every single American understands that he or she are responsible for the decisions that you make; you're responsible for loving your children with all your heart and all your soul; you're responsible for being involved with the quality of the education of your children; you're responsible for making sure the community in which you live is safe; you're responsible for loving your neighbor, just like you would like to be loved yourself. " -----this quote was too good to leave out)

Started the USA Freedom Corps

Initiated review of all federal agencies with a goal to eliminate federal jobs (completed September 2003) in an effort to reduce the size of federal gov while increasing private sector jobs.

Part of coalition (Russia, Israel, EU, Palestine, USA) for Israeli/Palestinian "Roadmap to Peace"

Challenged the United Nations to live up to their responsibilities and not become The League of Nations ( in other words, completely irrelevant)

Nominated strong, conservative judges to the judiciary.

Changed parts of the Forestry Management Act to allow necessary clean-up of the national forests in order to reduce fire danger.

As part of the national forests clean-up, the President restricted judicial challenges (based on the Endangered Species Act and other challenges) and removed the need for an EIS (Environmental Impact Statement) before removing fuels/logging to reduce fire danger.


Significantly eased field-testing controls of genetically engineered crops.

President Bush signs workplace verification bill to prevent hiring of illegal Aliens
S. 1685, the Basic Pilot Extension Act of 2003, was signed by President Bush on December 3, 2003. It will extend for five years the workplace employment eligibility authorization pilot programs created in 1996. It expands the pilot programs from the original five states to all 50 states.


10 posted on 12/10/2003 11:44:09 AM PST by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: RckyRaCoCo
yes he has, we cannot wait for next november so as to vote for the Dean\Hitlery ticket to save us

I realize that you are being sarcastic, but that is exactly what Commissar Bush knows won't happen.

Our Beloved Leader is using the WOT to hold us hostage to his socialist agenda.

What choice do we have? Vote 'RAT and go socialist or get killed by terrorists (whichever comes first), or vote RepublicRAT and stand a chance a going socialist and live.

11 posted on 12/10/2003 11:45:22 AM PST by putupon (Dubya, the RINOs, and SCOTUS have trashed the Constitution! I'm deeply saddened, and POed too!)
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To: Orangedog
Right. There is no middle ground in Washington. It's become so fuzzy in the middle, they're all a bunch of jacka$$es.
12 posted on 12/10/2003 11:46:38 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper
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To: Southack
Gee, all that for the low, low cost of the 1st, 2nd, 4th and 10th amendments....what a bargain.
13 posted on 12/10/2003 11:47:08 AM PST by Orangedog (difference between a hamster & a gerbil?..there's more dark-meat on a hamster!)
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To: Stew Padasso
If we reelect Bush and Give him a better Senate that is the only way to really find out.

Remember he really did not have a mandate and Jump Jim of course.
14 posted on 12/10/2003 11:47:10 AM PST by funkywbr
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To: Southack
and yes, I'm more than a little upset about his gamble with the supreme court that blew up in all of our faces today.
15 posted on 12/10/2003 11:49:02 AM PST by Orangedog (difference between a hamster & a gerbil?..there's more dark-meat on a hamster!)
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To: bjcintennessee
Screw the other side of the aisle. They have their agenda, he has his. He got elected POTUS on his agenda, not theirs. Good Conservatives never compromise.
16 posted on 12/10/2003 11:49:10 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper
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To: Southack
Federal Spending

Federal spending is up to historic levels, even discounting for national defense and the new Department of Homeland Security. Below, find the latest work Cato scholars have done on runaway federal spending.

From the Tax & Budget Bulletin

"On Spending, Bush Is No Reagan," by Veronique de Rugy and Tad DeHaven, Tax and Budget Bulletin No. 16, August 2003.

"The Federal Government in 2040," by Chris Edwards, Tax and Budget Bulletin No. 15, June 2003.

"Federal Government Should Increase Firing Rate," by Chris Edwards and Tad DeHaven, Tax and Budget Bulletin No. 10, November 2002.

"Corporate Welfare Update," by Chris Edwards and Tad DeHaven, Tax and Budget Bulletin No. 7, May 2002.

"“Sunsetting” to Reform and Abolish Federal Agencies," by Chris Edwards, Director of Fiscal Policy, Tax and Budget Bulletin No. 6, May 2002.

"Farm Reform Reversal," by Chris Edwards and Tad DeHaven, Tax and Budget Bulletin No. 2, March 2002.

Studies

"The Balanced Budget Veto: A New Mechanism to Limit Federal Spending," by Anthony W. Hawks, Policy Analysis No. 478, September 4, 2003.

"Farm Subsidies at Record Levels As Congress Considers New Farm Bill ," by Chris Edwards and Tad DeHaven, Cato Briefing Paper No. 70, October 18, 2001.

"The Return of the Living Dead: Federal Programs That Survived the Republican Revolution ," by Stephen Moore and Stephen Slivinski, Cato Policy Analysis No. 375, July 24, 2000.

Opinion and Commentary

"Reformed to Death," by Chris Edwards and Tad DeHaven, A Cato Commentary, Tech Central Station , August 1, 2003.

"The Mother of All Big Spenders: Bush spends like Carter and panders like Clinton.," by Veronique de Rugy and Tad DeHaven, A Cato Commentary, NRO, July 28, 2003.

"Bush’s Bigger, Fatter Welfare State," by Chris Edwards and Tad DeHaven, A Cato Commentary, NRO, July 18, 2003.

"Drugs for the Elderly . . . and Taxes for the Children.," by Chris Edwards, A Cato Commentary, NRO, June 24, 2003.

"What Fiscal Discipline?," by Veronique de Rugy and Tad DeHaven, A Cato Daily Commentary, June 14, 2003.

"Hey, Big Spender," by Veronique de Rugy and Tad DeHaven, A Cato Commentary, Tech Central Station, March 26, 2003.

"Bush’s Achilles’ Heel: Governement Spending Is Out of Control," by Veronique de Rugy, A Cato Commentary, NRO, February 12, 2003.

"Bush's Overspending Problem," by Chris Edwards, A Cato Commentary, The National Post, February 6, 2003.

"Averting War Between the Generations," by Chris Edwards, A Cato Commentary, Trenton Times, November 26, 2002.

"'Sunsetting' to Reform and Abolish Federal Agencies," by Chris Edwards, A Cato Daily Commentary, April 26, 2002.

"Bush Budget Reads Well, Numbers Disappoint," by Chris Edwards, A Cato Commentary, Liberty Magazine, April 2002.

"Save the Farms -- End the Subsidies," by Chris Edwards and Tad DeHaven, A Cato Commentary, Washington Post, June 3, 2002.

"The Grapes of Graft," by Chris Edwards and Tad DeHaven, A Cato Commentary, New York Post, December 19, 2001.

"Real Emergencies and Farm "Emergencies"," by Chris Edwards and Tad DeHaven, A Cato Daily Commentary, October 8, 2001.

"How Much Reform Can Taxpayers Afford?," by Chris Edwards, A Cato Commentary, The Washington Times, September 11, 2001.


17 posted on 12/10/2003 11:49:12 AM PST by Stew Padasso (Head down over a saddle.)
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To: putupon
Our Beloved Leader is using the WOT to hold us hostage to his socialist agenda.

That is depressingly accurate. I doubt he's doing it deliberately, but the end result is the same.

18 posted on 12/10/2003 11:49:27 AM PST by ThinkDifferent
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To: Stew Padasso
Hi Todd!
19 posted on 12/10/2003 11:49:33 AM PST by TomServo ("That felt good... Now I'm going to turn my daughter into a woodchuck.")
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To: Orangedog
"Gee, all that for the low, low cost of the 1st, 2nd, 4th and 10th amendments....what a bargain."

I've still got all of my rights, but then again, I'm a real, Southern, American man.

How did you lose yours, and specifically, *what* can you not do today that you *could* do before Bush was sworn in as President? I'm curious about just what specifically you think that you've somehow "lost."

20 posted on 12/10/2003 11:49:53 AM PST by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: RckyRaCoCo
If Dean is smart, and I think he is, he won't put Hillary on the ticket - he needs crossover votes and won't get them with her. Besides, if anything she would run for president herself before settling for vice-president, imho.
22 posted on 12/10/2003 11:50:28 AM PST by Born in a Rage
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To: Stew Padasso
Gee, so "spending" is up.

Goodness, we had better gloss over what we got for that spending, right?! After all, we've got to have something to bash Bush about (such as hype) besides facts, policies, and people.

23 posted on 12/10/2003 11:51:31 AM PST by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: bjcintennessee
The medicare, however, is a farce, as is the excessive pork spending that he refuses to veto.

Yup. This is what REALLY disappoints me about W. He signed that HUGH education bill that the Swimmer backed / penned, and now this prescription drug bill pork.

To use Tom Dascle's expression, "I am saddened. Deeply saddened;" at W's signing these pork bills. Robert KKK Byrd could not push more pork through the legislature than Porky Pig and W!

24 posted on 12/10/2003 11:52:05 AM PST by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: scrutiny
Nothing will change until the sheeple realize that the real power is the media

That's a quandry for a conservative because the person who wants to 'break-up' the media monopoly is Dean.

25 posted on 12/10/2003 11:52:16 AM PST by Born in a Rage
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To: Stew Padasso
http://www.cato.org/research/fiscal_policy/2003/factsfigs.html
26 posted on 12/10/2003 11:53:21 AM PST by Stew Padasso (Head down over a saddle.)
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27 posted on 12/10/2003 11:53:47 AM PST by putupon (Dubya, the RINOs, and SCOTUS have trashed the Constitution! I'm deeply saddened, and POed too!)
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To: Wait4Truth
I don't want to get your blood pressure up, but I knew you would like to comment on this thread.

I know some conservatives are all a-dither over some of President Bush's actions. Not me. Over the long haul, we will look back on his first four years as president, as earth shattering, mind boggling to the left. He's well on his way to proving Republicans don't starve babies, kill old folks, poison the air and water. The left, even the loony toon voters, will have to acknowledge that republicans aren't mean-spirited devil racists. Ok, boo hiss, he's had to go further than many of us would like in proposing government programs, we can live with it in order to correct the Clinton lies against us, that began with the Contract For America.

If Howard Dean and Al Gore can rid the DNC (and the country), of Clinton power, we can get back to the days of honest political debate, civilized discourse, and reasonable conversation with the other side of the political aisle.

28 posted on 12/10/2003 11:53:56 AM PST by YaYa123 (@President Bush Is An Environmentalist....He's Cleaning Up The Air In Washington.com)
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To: Southack
There any room in here for those of us who admire Bush's accomplishments, but are alarmed at the outrageous level of government spending, gross negligence in immigration matters, and acquiescence to judicial tyranny?
29 posted on 12/10/2003 11:59:44 AM PST by thoughtomator (The U.N. is a terrorist organization)
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To: Southack
How did you lose yours, and specifically, *what* can you not do today that you *could* do before Bush was sworn in as President? I'm curious about just what specifically you think that you've somehow "lost."

You may not have checked the news today, but the CFR bill that he gleefully signed into law was upheld by the supreme court this morning. That means that I or a group can't buy time to run a tv or radio ad pointing out the voting record of any candidate for national office. I call that a loss of a 1st amendment right.

Everyone here already has their mind made up about the patriot act and it's impact on the 4th amendment, so I won't bother with the details (psst...the next dem in the white house will be able to abuse the hell out of that one. Imagine the NRA being labeled a terrorist organization by the AG!)

He has promised to sign the extension of the assault weapons ban if it reaches his desk...and it will, so he will, just like with CFR.

30 posted on 12/10/2003 12:01:51 PM PST by Orangedog (difference between a hamster & a gerbil?..there's more dark-meat on a hamster!)
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To: YaYa123
He's well on his way to proving Republicans don't starve babies, kill old folks, poison the air and water.

Maybe I'm just old fashioned, but I kind of liked being the party that starved babies, killed old folks and poinsoned the air and water. At least when we were being accused of all that, we were actually trying to make government smaller....remember those days?

31 posted on 12/10/2003 12:06:20 PM PST by Orangedog (difference between a hamster & a gerbil?..there's more dark-meat on a hamster!)
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To: Stew Padasso
"The spending is out of control and somebody’s going to have to pay for it, and it’s my children. And I don’t think that’s right

The Federal Debt was on the way to being paid off until the Fed and OBL screwed things up. But it's improving and will be on the way to being paid off once more. Probably there will be a hint of black in a couple years. Next time there won't be an OBL and the Fed is out of ammo, so it looks pretty good in the crystal ball.

32 posted on 12/10/2003 12:07:10 PM PST by RightWhale (Close your tag lines)
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To: RightWhale
The fed has plenty of ammo, they're just done with the short term rates. Just wait until they start buying long term treasuries.
33 posted on 12/10/2003 12:09:32 PM PST by Orangedog (difference between a hamster & a gerbil?..there's more dark-meat on a hamster!)
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To: Orangedog
So per my question about what rights you have lost under Bush that you had under Clinton, you've gone from your original claim of 1st, 2nd, 4th, and 10th Amendments down to just the 1st per the terms of today's Supreme Court ruling about a 60 day no-tv-ad window that doesn't even apply to web pages, billboards, bumper stickers, movie theaters, or even TV news shows.

Hyperbole won't help your argument, I hope that you realize...

34 posted on 12/10/2003 12:10:16 PM PST by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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Bush-bots are back!
35 posted on 12/10/2003 12:10:37 PM PST by FirstPrinciple
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To: Southack
The padded list again, but I like the colors. It's an improvement.
36 posted on 12/10/2003 12:16:07 PM PST by RJCogburn ("Everything happens to me. Now I'm shot by a child."...Tom Chaney after being shot by Mattie Ross)
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To: Southack
Yeah, but what has he done for me lately?
37 posted on 12/10/2003 12:17:32 PM PST by bayourod (Don't start no shit won't be no shit.)
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To: bjcintennessee
he has reached so far across the aisle that he is indistinguishable from a moderate democrat.

You've just about pegged out the absurdity meter with this comment.

38 posted on 12/10/2003 12:18:02 PM PST by Coop (God bless our troops!)
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To: YaYa123
proposing government programs, we can live with

Yes, expanding government at a rate not seen since LBJ is easily lived with by the inhabitants of Bushbotville in the magical kingdom of Bushbotland.

39 posted on 12/10/2003 12:19:04 PM PST by RJCogburn ("Everything happens to me. Now I'm shot by a child."...Tom Chaney after being shot by Mattie Ross)
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To: Stew Padasso
Rep. Mark Souder, a conservative Indiana Republican who voted for the Medicare bill, said that small-government Republicans have been stirred up by conservative talk show hosts like Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity. But when the election comes, the libertarian faction’s anger will be "almost irrelevant," he said.

"Are they going to vote for Howard Dean?" Souder asked.

"Libertarian"? Cutting spending is classic conservatism.

I suppose we could vote for (gasp) Buchanan.

40 posted on 12/10/2003 12:19:26 PM PST by MegaSilver
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To: Stew Padasso
You obviously don't remember Ronald Reagan. We heard the same criticism of Reagan during his first term. (that was when Ron Paul was running on a pro-abortion; legalization of drugs platform)
41 posted on 12/10/2003 12:21:32 PM PST by bayourod (Don't start no shit won't be no shit.)
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To: Southack
I've been typing about this all day, so hopefully you won't mind if I dismiss your dismissiveness.

If you want to think it's a good bargain to trade a web page or bumper stickers for TV ads, that's your right (for now, at least), but I don't think it's what the founders had in mind. What the hell is so unclear about the words CONGRESS SHAL MAKE NO LAW...?!

Lets stick around and see just how wonderful you think some of these new laws are when the dems eventually get back in the whate house. I'm sure that hilliary's AG would never think about using these things against anyone to the right of her.
42 posted on 12/10/2003 12:21:39 PM PST by Orangedog (difference between a hamster & a gerbil?..there's more dark-meat on a hamster!)
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To: YaYa123
...Over the long haul, we will look back on his first four years as president, as earth shattering, mind boggling to the left...

That is the truth.
43 posted on 12/10/2003 12:22:13 PM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: Stew Padasso
"Are they going to vote for Howard Dean?" Souder asked."

No. But they can stay home election night. And they certainly can skip volunteering, donating funds and supporting Bush's relection bid.

44 posted on 12/10/2003 12:27:16 PM PST by KantianBurke (Don't Tread on Me)
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To: Orangedog
And no, I didn't bother to proof read or hit the spell check!
45 posted on 12/10/2003 12:27:33 PM PST by Orangedog (difference between a hamster & a gerbil?..there's more dark-meat on a hamster!)
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To: thoughtomator
There any room in here for those of us who admire Bush's accomplishments, but are alarmed at the outrageous level of government spending, gross negligence in immigration matters, and acquiescence to judicial tyranny?

I'm with you.

46 posted on 12/10/2003 12:28:41 PM PST by petercooper (Proud VRWC Neanderthal)
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To: Stew Padasso
What qualifies as a "GOP value" besides winning the next election?

It's all so fuzzy these days...

47 posted on 12/10/2003 12:37:07 PM PST by k2blader (Haruspex, beware.)
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To: Stew Padasso
to pay for drug bill each family..."pay an additional $1,125 in taxes per year by 2030." Figures don't lie but liars can figure is an old phrase that might work here. At the present time fewer than 13% of all people over 65 have an annual prescription bill over $300. It takes a lot to get that number to triple. and that would mean that one tax payer is paying the drug bill of that elderly person.

By the way who knows what will be happening in 2030? Any number of new drug treatments could knock down drug and medical costs. Like fluoride in the water reduced cavities and dentists had to learn to be orthodontists, doctors in 30 years may be practicing a different kind of medicine.

49 posted on 12/10/2003 1:07:58 PM PST by q_an_a
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To: Southack
Started the USA Freedom Corps

Another useless government program

Nominated strong, conservative judges to the judiciary

He nominated two Clinton appointees to the circuit courts- and could not get any constitutionalists on the bench.

Passed Medicare Reform (authorized $39.5 Billion per year for preventive medicine such as drugs and doctor visits as well as included a ten year Privatization option)
Signed into law the No Child Left Behind legislation delivering the most dramatic education reforms in a generation (challenging the soft bigotry of low expectations)
Passed tough new laws to hold corporate criminals to account as a result of corporate scandals.

All unconstitutional

50 posted on 12/10/2003 1:12:17 PM PST by Fast 1975
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