Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Vanity: An Open Message to the Republican Party Cheerleaders on this Forum...
12-10-03 | Vanity

Posted on 12/10/2003 7:39:21 PM PST by ambrose

Vanity:

An Open Message to the Republican Party Cheerleaders on this Forum...



TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 1sogo3rdpartyalready; ambrosethepitbull; assbrose; backstabbing; brainwashedgop; bushforpresident; bushisarino; bushisliberal; bushscotuscfr; callingrossperot; catsanddogs; cfr; chat; cratroll; daschlenotrepublican; deanbotsunite; dutroll; getoveryourself; gop; goplemmings; grumpyoldman; lessexclamationpkm; liberalrepublican; lies; mccain; mcclintocklost; omission; oughtabeinchat; paleossuck; peroutka2004; pompomgirlsunite; postfordean; purityordeath; republicans; rinosbetterthanrats; thirdpartieslose; thisischat; tombot; zotcandidate
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-100101-150151-200 ... 651-672 next last
The McCain-Feingold assault on our First Amendment rights was passed by a Republican-controlled Congress, signed into law by a Republican President, and affirmed by a Republican-controlled Supreme Court.

The Free Republic is first and foremost a forum to advance conservative ideals and not the Republican Party agenda. The two causes are (sadly) often on wildly divergent paths.

So please, put down your GOP pom poms.

I submit that ideas are more important than party loyalty.

1 posted on 12/10/2003 7:39:21 PM PST by ambrose
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: TheAngryClam
ping.
2 posted on 12/10/2003 7:39:54 PM PST by ambrose
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ambrose
Free Republic is first and foremost a forum to advance conservative ideals ...


Just win, Baby! Somebody else can pay for it later. ;-)

3 posted on 12/10/2003 7:42:20 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: ambrose
Well, what do you propose?
4 posted on 12/10/2003 7:43:19 PM PST by Jim Robinson (All your ZOT are belong to us.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ambrose
I am totally disgusted. Why the he!! did President Bush sign this wretched thing? Why did the Congress pass it? (The Senate is more understanding considering Hatch, Spectre, and the other RINOS there, what to speak of McCain.)

Sick to my stomach, I am.

I like what Rush said today. Sodomy is a protected right, free speech isn't. He's wondering if it is legal for candidates to get sodomized 30 or 60 days before an election...?
5 posted on 12/10/2003 7:43:35 PM PST by little jeremiah
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: ambrose
Now you're going to draw the ire of the Bushbots. Woe unto you if you're haled up before the Inquisition, condemned as a heretic!

Hit your knees, infidel, and pray the Prayer of Penitence:

Republicans can do no wrong.
Republicans can do no wrong.
Republicans can do no wrong.

6 posted on 12/10/2003 7:43:37 PM PST by IronJack
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ambrose
So vote Dean.
7 posted on 12/10/2003 7:43:52 PM PST by squidly
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ambrose
All right, then...we'll all pick up our Dem pom-poms and root for Howard Dean and Hillary.

Would that satisfy Your Majesty?
8 posted on 12/10/2003 7:44:40 PM PST by Palladin (Proud to be a FReeper!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ambrose
So when are you running for President.??

GOP Pom Poms.?? Sure.
9 posted on 12/10/2003 7:45:41 PM PST by Pompah (If it ain't broke,fix it 'til it is.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ambrose
The McCain-Feingold assault on our First Amendment rights was passed by a Republican-controlled Congress, signed into law by a Republican President, and affirmed by a Republican-controlled Supreme Court.

Let me help you out.

The McCain-Feingold assault on our First Amendment rights was passed by a nominallyRepublican-controlled Congress, signed into law by a Republican President, and affirmed by a in name onlyRepublican-controlled Supreme Court.

10 posted on 12/10/2003 7:45:57 PM PST by NeoCaveman (who the F is John Kerry?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ambrose
With all due respect, get bent, ambrose.

You are free to ignore posts that support the GOP, just like most of us ignored your McClintock rantings.

It's up to Jim Robinson to conduct purges, not you.

11 posted on 12/10/2003 7:46:02 PM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Jim Robinson
I propose everyone who reads this should email President Bush and other appropriate Congresscritters and tell them our opinion, and that if they want us to continue to vote Republican, they should act like conservatives and protect the Constitution.

I don't propose sitting out the election or voting for protest candidates.

What do you think could/should be done?

12 posted on 12/10/2003 7:46:27 PM PST by little jeremiah
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: ambrose
Ideas, like facts, can be stubborn things. They can also be really stupid things that go clunk in the night and lead people to vote for scammers and borderline nuts - the initials "HB" and "PB" come to mind...
13 posted on 12/10/2003 7:46:28 PM PST by 185JHP ( "What seest thou, Jeremiah?")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Palladin
Its time to look deeper.

14 posted on 12/10/2003 7:46:44 PM PST by ocean
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Jim Robinson
I think it may be prudent to withhold our support to the Congresscritters who have betrayed us. On the other hand, the Islamofascist threat is too real, and Dean is too nutty, to even consider being less than 100% in support of the President. We won't be able to argue about the merits of McCain-Feingold if the Islamofascists and their enablers in the West have their way.
15 posted on 12/10/2003 7:46:49 PM PST by ambrose
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: little jeremiah
Sounds like a good start.
16 posted on 12/10/2003 7:47:38 PM PST by Jim Robinson (All your ZOT are belong to us.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: little jeremiah
Why the he!! did President Bush sign this wretched thing?

Maybe it was a bluff in a game of TeXas Hold'em that went bad.

17 posted on 12/10/2003 7:47:59 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: 185JHP
I see troubled times ahead, what about thou?
18 posted on 12/10/2003 7:48:09 PM PST by little jeremiah
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: ambrose
I didn't like it when Bush signed this idiotic unconstitutional bill. There are other things I don't like either.

On the other hand there are many things about Bush that I do like. The reality is that I will vote for Bush. The alternatives are unthinkable to me.

Please tell us what other electable candidate you would prefer to support.
19 posted on 12/10/2003 7:49:02 PM PST by Columbine
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ambrose
I admit, I am not 100% thrilled with the current GOP's spending agenda. But some blame Bush outright when it wasn't Bush that created the pork barrelling.

He has to play the gov spending game in order to negotiate support for issues that need to be passed. Is he really supportive of large gov spending? We may not know while he is in office.

Will he be the best choice while in office? Absolutely.

We will never get the gov spending/pork barrelling out of office until we, the citizens, privatize it on our own.
20 posted on 12/10/2003 7:50:06 PM PST by Calpernia (Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ambrose
First, let me put my cards on the table. Bush's signature on this steaming turd was a mistake. I know why he did it, however. Had he vetoed it, McCain would have screamed bloody murder, declared himself an independent, and would have caucused with Daschle. You folks are forgetting that Daschle had turned Jeffords. It would have been easy for him to flip McCain.

That said, those of you who wish to stand by principle come what may forget everything Ronald Reagan tried to teach you. Reagan understood when to compromise. Barry Goldwater didn't . Reagan never lost an election. Barry Goldwater got creamed in the only election that counted.

Principle can only be advanced through a two-steps forward, one step back approach. It is a long hard slog, sort of like a Supreme Court nomination fight. My way or the highway won't win the cultural battle on gun rights, abortion, or any of the other social issues. You don't like this? Get your reps to start reforming the law. It's how things are done.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

21 posted on 12/10/2003 7:51:38 PM PST by section9 (Major Kusanagi says, "Click on my pic and read my blog, or eat lead!")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ambrose
Tell you what. I plan to vote for whichever Republican runs against Barbara Boxer. I plan to vote for my Republican Congressman George Radanovich. And despite some of his decisions that I hate, I plan to vote for George W. Bush as president. The alternative is unthinkable. And there's no way in hell I'll ever give up and surrender to the left without a fight.
22 posted on 12/10/2003 7:52:52 PM PST by Jim Robinson (All your ZOT are belong to us.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: Columbine
I didn't like it when Bush signed this idiotic unconstitutional bill. There are other things I don't like either.

On the other hand there are many things about Bush that I do like. The reality is that I will vote for Bush. The alternatives are unthinkable to me.

My sentiments exactly. The fact that Bush isn't perfect is a bummer. The fact the he is President instead of Gore is a great good fortune. Any of the Dem'o'craps getting elected would be a tragedy.

23 posted on 12/10/2003 7:53:09 PM PST by little jeremiah
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: ambrose
oops, ignore my post. I was on another thread and had too many windows open.
24 posted on 12/10/2003 7:53:26 PM PST by Calpernia (Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: section9
Well said. ditto.
25 posted on 12/10/2003 7:54:09 PM PST by hobson
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: ambrose
Before the final draft was even submitted, the "powers that be" of BOTH sides had already determined that ALL the restrictions could be overcome.

McCain-Feingold was as meaningless today as the day it was signed. There are pleanty of work arounds.

It does however point out that occonor is no longer to be trusted.
26 posted on 12/10/2003 7:54:27 PM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Jim Robinson
I'm happy to be in such good company.
27 posted on 12/10/2003 7:54:46 PM PST by Columbine
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: sinkspur
AMEN
28 posted on 12/10/2003 7:55:39 PM PST by cyborg (far right extremist american...........)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: dubyaismypresident
Oh, excuses, excuses.

I bet you thought election Arnold Schwarzenegger governor was a great idea too.
29 posted on 12/10/2003 7:55:40 PM PST by TheAngryClam (Don't blame me, I voted for McClintock.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: ambrose
"So please, put down your GOP pom poms. I submit that ideas are more important than party loyalty."

What's all this gnashing of teeth.

Really, CFR is insignifigant in the scheme of things, especially when compared to things such as national security, taxes, religious freedom, and business regulations.

I am willing to bet that this new law doesn't make a whit of difference in this election.

Why? Cause people just find a way around it, just as they have done in regards to ALL OTHER election finance laws which have been passed previously.

The most that happens when a CFR law is broken is that some organization gets a fine, AFTER the election is over.

Check it out. When's the last time you've heard of any signifigant punishment for breaking a old CFR law?

30 posted on 12/10/2003 7:55:40 PM PST by Edit35
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ambrose
I will support whom I please thank you. If I happen to like President Bush - I will feel free to say so no matter how any purists think about it.

I may not like everything he does - but, he does not control everything in government - we have the democrat party trying to destroy this country.

When it comes time to chose who I wish to lead this country the next four years - I can wholeheartedly say - I want George Bush - perfect or not.
31 posted on 12/10/2003 7:55:42 PM PST by ClancyJ (It's just not safe to vote Democratic.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: little jeremiah
Did you just love Rush's show today? All those hen peckers calling in about Rush saying testicles...lol
32 posted on 12/10/2003 7:56:36 PM PST by cyborg (far right extremist american...........)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Jim Robinson
Well, what do you propose?

I would propose contacting one's CongressCritters and Senate reps and demanding that steps be taken to have CFR repealled as quickly as possible. Its not too often I find myself at variance with Dubya however in this case, I'm on the other side and have to disagree with his position. Any infringement on the enumerated rights spelled out in Constitution can not be a good thing.
33 posted on 12/10/2003 7:58:00 PM PST by pyx (Is this really all there is ?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Jim Robinson
Don't we risk suffering the same fate as black voters? The Rats can safely ignore black voters because they know on election day, they'll go 90% for the Rat candidate, no matter what. If we support Republican candidates, no matter what, they will similarly take us for granted.

Voting against a shrill Marxist like Babs Boxer is too easy. What about a race of Gerald Parsky vs Dianne Feinstein?

John McCain is up for re-election this year. Many would argue that it is important that he be re-elected so that the Senate stays in GOP hands. But I think he causes more trouble as a Republican senator than any freshman Rat senator could create.
34 posted on 12/10/2003 7:59:24 PM PST by ambrose
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: longtermmemmory
"Before the final draft was even submitted, the "powers that be" of BOTH sides had already determined that ALL the restrictions could be overcome. McCain-Feingold was as meaningless today as the day it was signed. There are pleanty of work arounds.

You are 1000-percent correct.

I am astounded at all the teeth gnashing going on regarding this issue.

People constantly violate previous campaign laws, and the most that happens is a fine, and even that is rare.

35 posted on 12/10/2003 7:59:41 PM PST by Edit35
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: ambrose
Everyone disgusted with this should take a pledge: If contacted by a polster, tell them you're voting for the democrat. Scare some sense back into those jack ass republicans.
36 posted on 12/10/2003 7:59:47 PM PST by DManA
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ambrose
FREEDOM is more important than party loyalty. So far the Republicans have done more than Clinton to undermine our freedom and sovereignty. Enough is enough. Vote them out!
37 posted on 12/10/2003 8:00:31 PM PST by ETERNAL WARMING
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ambrose
It hurt more RAT groups than it did GOP groups. Who cares, not me.
38 posted on 12/10/2003 8:01:41 PM PST by John Lenin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: cyborg
He was in fine form. Some of those gals kind of make me think that (some) women shoudn't have gotten the vote - present company excepted, of course!
I think since coming back from rehab he's sharper than ever - like several years ago. And *funny*! But he was po'ed today, he's not pleased with the SCOTUS (aka the evil buffoons, although around 3 of them are human).
39 posted on 12/10/2003 8:02:09 PM PST by little jeremiah
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: Jim Robinson
I'm voting Keyes. I'll write him in. I will never again support the two party hydra. There isn't a bit of difference between the two except rhetoric. Enough is enough.
40 posted on 12/10/2003 8:02:11 PM PST by ETERNAL WARMING
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: ambrose
This is one Bush Republican that has no intention of stopping her support of President Bush because of the ruling of the SCOTUS. I don't work that way and this The Sky is Falling nonsense is getting annoying.

Instead of figuring out ways to work around this ruling some people would rather whine and put their heads in the sand that it is all over.

Do you see the NRA whining -- not on your life -- they are exploring ways to buy a media outlet. If you get dealt a bad hand, you play with the cards you are dealt. Your way elects a Dean or Hillary but then that is what some of you want it seems. Then you can get everyone on your side to complain.

Well this Bush Republican is not giving in to your The Sky is Falling Crowd! Maybe some of you should wake up and realize what this Country would be like under Hillary Clinton since you and others are trying to undermine Pres Bush every step of the way with your vanity posts just as you did Arnold. Well it didn't work with Arnold and it won't work with Bush.

All this post of yours had done is make me convinced to work even harder for the reelection of Bush-Cheney. I am not a one issue voter and will be because you will never find the perfect candidate.

A Hillary or Dean as President are not an option for the health of this Nation and for me personally.

If you don't like the fact that Bush Republicans are on this forum then ban us! What makes you the sole power to determine just what is conservative -- I didn't realize you were my judge and jury and frankly I resent this starting up like it did with Arnold.



41 posted on 12/10/2003 8:02:32 PM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- OU Sooners are #1in the BCS)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ambrose
I posted my comments on this subject on another thread, so I won't repeat them here.
42 posted on 12/10/2003 8:02:51 PM PST by Joe Bonforte
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Jim Robinson; ambrose
And there's no way in hell I'll ever give up and surrender to the left without a fight.

I'll certainly BUMP that remark!

43 posted on 12/10/2003 8:02:54 PM PST by potlatch (Whenever I feel 'blue', I start breathing again.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: Jim Robinson
Put the pressure back on Bush. He needs to hear our outrage loud and clear, and he needs to tell us what he's going to do about it. No excuses. He's the leader of the majority party in the Senate and House. If he says, "We screwed up. Let's repeal this abomination," they will listen to him.

Put the pressure back on Bush. He can do more than any other single person--if he has a mind and will to.

44 posted on 12/10/2003 8:03:00 PM PST by Kevin Curry
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: pyx
True enough. I believe that ALL campaign finance laws are unconstitutional. The first amendment says the congress shall make NO law abridging the right of the people to free speech, free press, and free assembly, etc. I'm in favor of taking out all laws that violate the first amendment. Writing and calling these people would be a place to start.
45 posted on 12/10/2003 8:03:06 PM PST by Jim Robinson (All your ZOT are belong to us.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: ambrose
I concur. Here are mine.

1. As angry as I am, I believe that "the next civil war" is not necessarily upon us.
2. Here is the plan of action that I think we must pursue:
a) We must start a grass roots campaign to begin writing ALL of our Senators (regardless of party affiliation) and the President and DEMAND that the FIRST order of business of the New Congress next year is to repeal McCain-Feingold IN ITS ENTIRETY.
b) Failing that, we must apply pressure to our state governments to recall their senators from Washington and strip them of their political office and their Senate credentials and appoint replacement senators to complete the remaining terms.
c) The FORMER senators (assuming they refuse to repeal McCain-Feingold) should be placed on trial for treason, malfeasance, knowingly violating their oath of office and knowingly violating the Constitution.
d) The President, having signed a bill into law that he KNEW was flawed, is also guilty of treason, malfeasance, knowingly violating his oath of office and knowingly violating the Constitution. He should also be recalled from office and tried for these crimes.

ALL of these people played "pass-the-buck" politics. The senate, knowing that the bill was flawed, passed it anyway, assuming the President would veto it. The President passed the buck when he signed this flawed bill into law, assuming that the SC would strike down the unConstitutional portions of the bill. The SC has passed the same buck, leaving us - ALL of us, regardless of political affiliation - with a law that violates our Constitutional rights. Since the people we entrusted to "protect, defend and support" the Constitution of the United States have failed in their most important and sacred duty, it is up to us to take these issues in our own hands and ensure that the Constitution is restored as the rule of the land. As part of the ultimate corrections that we must demand to protect our freedoms, SC Justices can no longer be appointed for life but, instead for a 10-year term. They may be re-appointed to a second 10-year term only once; after that, they retire.

This is just a basic plan of action. We can flush it out as we move forward.
46 posted on 12/10/2003 8:03:48 PM PST by DustyMoment
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ambrose
I submit that ideas are more important than party loyalty.

That is the sort of bravado stance that sounds sooo good, yet if followed would result in political disaster. Suppose all of us who usually vote Republican decided to withhold our vote unless the candidate agreed at least 95% with our personal positions, while the Dems (as they always do) rally around whomever emerges as their nominee???

I will repeat what I have said earlier on this subject:
Politics is the art of compromise. It is not Political Philosophy 100A. It is not Burger King, and you can't always have it your way.

47 posted on 12/10/2003 8:04:01 PM PST by ARepublicanForAllReasons (Where would we be, in 2003, had we elected 'The Tree'???)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: TheAngryClam
I bet you thought election Arnold Schwarzenegger governor was a great idea too.

Huh?

48 posted on 12/10/2003 8:04:05 PM PST by NeoCaveman (who the F is John Kerry?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: little jeremiah
I wish Rush24 took AMEX...lol today's show alone is worth it. A female caller actually said to Rush that he better not change. He's as sharp as a tack now. Yeah I thought he was really off the deep end. Clarence Thomas, Scalia,etc. they get it. What's up with the others?
49 posted on 12/10/2003 8:04:10 PM PST by cyborg (far right extremist american...........)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]

To: ETERNAL WARMING
Help yourself. But you're living in a fantasy world.
50 posted on 12/10/2003 8:04:16 PM PST by Jim Robinson (All your ZOT are belong to us.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-100101-150151-200 ... 651-672 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson