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Daily Campaign Finance Reform thread

Posted on 12/11/2003 8:58:58 AM PST by Valin

Would you be willing to start a daily thread with this intent? Or conversely, a thread that is bumped to the top regularly? I would help. I have too many responsibilities to commit to hosting it. Lazamataz

To get this started my suggetion, Start putting pressure on your local rep. and senator to undo this monstrosity. Everytime you see them, ask them, What are you going to do about this? another idea, let them know that you are cutting back by 1/2 your contribution to them as a protest.

Pressure Pressure Pressure!


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: america; cfr; cfrdailythread; cfrlist; firstamendment; mccainfeingold; silence
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To: Lazamataz
My bad.

Gay marriage one week in my home state; SCOTUS protecting the Incumbents Defense Act; a Loot the Young for Free Drugs bill; a married buddy from college sent off to Iraq...

The 'raise awareness' concept without dealing with the fundamental metaphysical problem addressed in my first post will be a misuse of energy, IMO, but I am always open to ideas.
21 posted on 12/11/2003 9:42:30 AM PST by JohnGalt ("Nothing happened on 9/11 to make the federal government more competent.")
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To: JohnGalt
The 'raise awareness' concept without dealing with the fundamental metaphysical problem addressed in my first post will be a misuse of energy, IMO, but I am always open to ideas.

Consider this: A) This is not a 'raise awareness' campaign; this is a 'get off your butts and call and write and visit offices and get people who care about it elected' campaign.

B) Wihtout free speech, the ability to affect change on your other issues, dies.

22 posted on 12/11/2003 9:45:37 AM PST by Lazamataz (Hillary Clinton is a CLINQUANT without the LINQA.)
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To: Lazamataz
Also remember Zell Miller voted for it.
23 posted on 12/11/2003 9:45:46 AM PST by Dane
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To: Mr. Bird
Is there a website which shows the voting records?
I went to Americans for Democratic Action.
They only rate from a leftist perspective.
Sen.Feinstein 85%
Sen. Boxer 95%
Rep Elton Gallegly 0%
24 posted on 12/11/2003 9:46:07 AM PST by international american
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To: proud American in Canada
"However, Tom Tancredo is nearby and used to appear often on Mike Rosen's AM radio show. Perhaps I'll write Mr. Tancredo and suggest that he start this bill to repeal CFR on the first day of the next session... If we can get something going on Rosen's show, perhaps this can snowball"

Very good idea.
25 posted on 12/11/2003 9:47:54 AM PST by international american
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To: proud American in Canada
However, Tom Tancredo is nearby and used to appear often on Mike Rosen's AM radio show. Perhaps I'll write Mr. Tancredo and suggest that he start this bill to repeal CFR on the first day of the next session... If we can get something going on Rosen's show, perhaps this can snowball.

Outstanding. Please pursue.

26 posted on 12/11/2003 9:47:56 AM PST by Lazamataz (Hillary Clinton is a CLINQUANT without the LINQA.)
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To: Lazamataz
But my critique remains that the entire system is corrupt and hopeless for reform. Energies would be better spent not fighting along the narrow battlelines of CFR but across the entire front.

Is it worth electing good men (by which I mean moral) to sit in the White House? Of course, but when it comes to the single issue you have to understand the issue in greater perspective.

The role of a politician is to be re-elected. There are probably less than 70 'real' conservatives in the House and maybe, maybe 24 in the Senate. If we could not get term limits in 1994, the peak of 'our' political strength in recent times, there is no point in hoping to create momentum to 'correct' CFR.
27 posted on 12/11/2003 9:53:59 AM PST by JohnGalt ("Nothing happened on 9/11 to make the federal government more competent.")
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To: Valin
Letters and emails went out yesterday to my senators and representative urging them to repeal the CFR bill.
28 posted on 12/11/2003 9:57:00 AM PST by rustbucket
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To: Valin
Don't just concentrate on the Republicans .... We need Judges that will vote to reverse the current decision.

Here's your Senators that voted Yea........

March 20, 2002

Grouped By Vote Position

YEAs ---60
Akaka (D-HI)
Baucus (D-MT)
Bayh (D-IN)
Biden (D-DE)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Boxer (D-CA)
Byrd (D-WV)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Carnahan (D-MO)
Carper (D-DE)
Chafee (R-RI)
Cleland (D-GA)
Clinton (D-NY)
Cochran (R-MS)
Collins (R-ME)
Conrad (D-ND)
Corzine (D-NJ)
Daschle (D-SD)
Dayton (D-MN)
Dodd (D-CT)
Domenici (R-NM)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Durbin (D-IL)
Edwards (D-NC)
Feingold (D-WI)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Fitzgerald (R-IL)
Graham (D-FL)
Harkin (D-IA)
Hollings (D-SC)
Inouye (D-HI)
Jeffords (I-VT)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerry (D-MA)
Kohl (D-WI)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Lieberman (D-CT)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Lugar (R-IN)
McCain (R-AZ)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Miller (D-GA)
Murray (D-WA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Sarbanes (D-MD)
Schumer (D-NY)
Snowe (R-ME)
Specter (R-PA)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Thompson (R-TN)
Torricelli (D-NJ)
Warner (R-VA)
Wellstone (D-MN)
Wyden (D-OR)

And the Representatives

--- AYES    240 ---

Abercrombie Green (TX) Napolitano
Ackerman Greenwood Neal
Allen Grucci Oberstar
Andrews Gutierrez Obey
Baca Hall (OH) Olver
Baird Harman Ortiz
Baldacci Hastings (FL) Osborne
Baldwin Hill Ose
Barrett Hinchey Owens
Bass Hinojosa Pallone
Becerra Hoeffel Pascrell
Bentsen Holden Pastor
Bereuter Holt Payne
Berkley Honda Pelosi
Berman Hooley Petri
Berry Horn Phelps
Bishop Houghton Platts
Blagojevich Hoyer Pomeroy
Blumenauer Inslee Price (NC)
Boehlert Israel Quinn
Bonior Jackson (IL) Ramstad
Bono Jackson-Lee (TX) Rangel
Borski Jefferson Reyes
Boswell John Rivers
Boyd Johnson (CT) Rodriguez
Brady (PA) Johnson (IL) Roemer
Brown (FL) Johnson, E. B. Ros-Lehtinen
Brown (OH) Jones (OH) Ross
Capito Kanjorski Rothman
Capps Kaptur Roybal-Allard
Capuano Kennedy (RI) Rush
Cardin Kildee Sabo
Carson (IN) Kilpatrick Sanchez
Carson (OK) Kind (WI) Sanders
Castle Kirk Sandlin
Clay Kleczka Sawyer
Clayton Kucinich Schakowsky
Clement LaFalce Schiff
Clyburn Lampson Serrano
Condit Langevin Shays
Conyers Lantos Sherman
Costello Larsen (WA) Simmons
Coyne Larson (CT) Skelton
Cramer LaTourette Slaughter
Crowley Leach Smith (MI)
Cummings Lee Smith (WA)
Davis (CA) Levin Snyder
Davis (FL) Lewis (GA) Solis
Davis (IL) LoBiondo Spratt
DeFazio Lofgren Stark
DeGette Lowey Stenholm
Delahunt Lucas (KY) Strickland
DeLauro Luther Stupak
Deutsch Lynch Tanner
Dicks Maloney (CT) Tauscher
Dingell Maloney (NY) Taylor (MS)
Doggett Markey Thompson (CA)
Dooley Mascara Thune
Doyle Matheson Thurman
Edwards Matsui Tierney
Engel McCarthy (MO) Towns
Eshoo McCarthy (NY) Turner
Etheridge McCollum Udall (CO)
Evans McDermott Udall (NM)
Farr McGovern Upton
Fattah McHugh Velazquez
Ferguson McIntyre Visclosky
Filner McKinney Walsh
Foley McNulty Wamp
Ford Meehan Waters
Frank Meek (FL) Watson (CA)
Frelinghuysen Meeks (NY) Watt (NC)
Frost Menendez Waxman
Ganske Millender-McDonald Weiner
Gephardt Miller, George Weldon (PA)
Gilchrest Mink Wexler
Gilman Moore Wolf
Gonzalez Moran (VA) Woolsey
Gordon Morella Wu
Graham Nadler Wynn

--- NOT VOTING    6 ---

Brady (TX) Hefley Roukema
Cubin Riley Traficant

29 posted on 12/11/2003 9:57:04 AM PST by deport
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To: Valin
"We're corrupt, and the solution to our corruptness is to limit YOUR freedom of speech."
30 posted on 12/11/2003 10:09:49 AM PST by Guillermo (George W. Bush is a Big Government liberal)
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To: international american; Lazamataz
I just emailed and faxed the following to Mike Rosen and Tom Tancredo:

Representative Tom Tancredo
By fax (202-226-4623) and email

Dear Mr. Tancredo:

As you know, contrary to the expectations of just about everyone in the country, perhaps even of the President who signed the bill, yesterday, the Supreme Court of the United States upheld the McCain-Feingold Campaign Finance Reform bill. Thousands of conservatives in this country, including Rush Limbaugh, have decried this shocking decision that abrogates the right to political free speech just prior to an election. This law must be repealed—-and repealed immediately.

I am a former resident of Denver and enjoyed listening to you on Mike Rosen’s AM radio show. Your true conservative values are also appreciated at a grassroots conservative organization of which I am a member, FreeRepublic.com.

That is why you are the ideal Congressman to initiate a bill on the very first day of the next session, a bill to rid this country of this assault on our most fundamental Constitutional right. As one Freeper has suggested, the bill need not be complex. A simple statement to the effect that, “by a majority of Congress, Campaign Finance Reform and all associated regulatory changes are hereby rescinded.”

There are many of us who hope that President Bush signs this bill, since he broke his campaign promise in refusing to veto CFR.

I also hope that you appear on Mike Rosen’s show to discuss this issue with ordinary people. The issue is complex—I have intelligent friends who have no idea what CFR is. Additionally, perhaps because Americans enjoy so much freedom, they are apathetic about the gradual erosion of their rights, just as they are apathetic about voting. A show in which you and Mr. Rosen explain the importance of repealing this odious law might wake people up and galvanize support for your proposed repeal.

As I explained to my Canadian husband, the loss of rights by increments, like the erosion of rocks on the beach by the persistent tide, occurs so gradually that we don’t notice it. But now is the time to stand up for the First Amendment, before there’s nothing left of it.

When I was a student at the University of Colorado School of Law, I was taught that political speech should receive the highest protection. The Supreme Court failed miserably in its duty yesterday, and we must work to take back this freedom. I sincerely hope that you will help us.
31 posted on 12/11/2003 10:38:08 AM PST by proud American in Canada
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To: All
Okay... I now have to return to grading the 140 final exams that I have been putting off... :)

see you all later.
32 posted on 12/11/2003 10:40:37 AM PST by proud American in Canada
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To: proud American in Canada
Excellent letter. I hope you get a proper response.
33 posted on 12/11/2003 10:42:28 AM PST by international american
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To: Valin
I just did my bit for the day: got a call from the Republican Cong. Reelection Committee. Told the woman making the call EXACTLY why I wanted my name off their list, and told her to please pass it on.
34 posted on 12/11/2003 10:55:07 AM PST by Molly Pitcher
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To: Valin; All
This was my futile attempt to abort this abomination:

Silence, America!:

Silence, America!: for Silence, America!. 

Other Bump Lists at: Free Republic Bump List Register



35 posted on 12/11/2003 11:11:14 AM PST by backhoe (--30--)
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To: Valin
Add me to this list please thank you.
36 posted on 12/11/2003 11:11:35 AM PST by RiflemanSharpe (An American for a more socially and fiscally conservation America!)
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To: Valin; international american; Lazamataz; All
Great news!!!

I just got a reply from Mike Rosen himself: "Great idea. Rational, concise and correct."

I've NEVER received a reply from a talk radio host, so that tells me he's interested--and since he's Tom's friend, if Tom has any reservations at all, perhaps MR can talk him out of them.

Yippee! :)



37 posted on 12/11/2003 11:17:02 AM PST by proud American in Canada
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To: Molly Pitcher
" I just did my bit for the day: got a call from the Republican Cong. Reelection Committee. Told the woman making the call EXACTLY why I wanted my name off their list, and told her to please pass it on."

bump!

Let's hope these people change their minds next session--if they want re-election next fall, that is. :)
38 posted on 12/11/2003 11:19:46 AM PST by proud American in Canada
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To: Valin
What part of "Congress shall make no law" DON'T they understand? Idiots!
39 posted on 12/11/2003 11:20:32 AM PST by 4CJ ('Scots vie 4 tavern juices' - anagram by paulklenk, 22 Nov 2003)
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To: proud American in Canada
Is there any way a guy from commiefornia can listen to Mike Rosen on the net?

Thanks, IA
40 posted on 12/11/2003 11:23:36 AM PST by international american
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