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Bill Clinton (and Ted Kennedy) to Speak at Sen. Paul Simon's Funeral
NBC5 ^ | Dec. 12, 2003 | AP

Posted on 12/12/2003 6:39:54 AM PST by mountaineer

CARBONDALE, Ill. -- Bill Clinton heads a list of past and present government officials scheduled to speak at the funeral Sunday for former Sen. Paul Simon at Southern Illinois University.

Clinton will deliver an address at the public funeral, as will Massachusetts Sen. Ted Kennedy, former Wyoming Sen. Alan Simpson and Illinois Sen. Dick Durbin, university spokeswoman Sue Davis said Thursday.

The funeral is set to begin at 1:30 p.m. Sunday at the SIU Arena. Carbondale is about 100 miles southeast of St. Louis.

Simon, 75, who had served as director of SIU's Public Policy Institute since retiring from the Senate in 1997, died Tuesday from complications after heart surgery.

Other speakers at Simon's funeral will include Illinois Attorney General Lisa Madigan, who once was on his staff, and Abner Mikva, a former federal judge who served with Simon in the Illinois House, Davis said.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: clinton; ghouls; illinois; kennedy; simon
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Looking forward to a Wellstone-like event.
1 posted on 12/12/2003 6:39:56 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: mountaineer
Just what I was going to post. Ditto your thoughts.
2 posted on 12/12/2003 6:43:55 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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The high-powered guests delivering the eulogies may be delivering them to a crowded arena.

Matt Baughman, a spokesman for the Public Policy Institute, has acted as pointman for travel arrangements, offering directions and flight information for getting to Carbondale. Baughman said telephones at the institute have rung almost without pause since word of Simon's death.

"Based on the level of interest from around the nation and from our own region alone we expect several thousand people to be in attendance," Baughman said.

Baughman said the institute also expects a "high turnout" at the funeral by Simon's former Washington, D.C., colleagues.

So far, Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle, D-S.D., and U.S. Sens. Peter Fitzgerald, R-Ill., and Chris Dodd, D-Conn., have said they are coming. State political figures whom Baughman said have made plans to attend are: Gov. Rod Blagojevich, former Gov. Jim Edgar, House Speaker Michael J. Madigan, D-Chicago, Senate President Emil Jones Jr., D-Chicago, Illinois Treasurer Judy Baar Topinka, and Chicago Mayor Richard Daley.

Former Democratic presidential nominee George McGovern also has expressed interest in attending, Baughman said.


full story: http://www.southernillinoisan.com/rednews/2003/12/12/build/top/TOP001.html
3 posted on 12/12/2003 6:44:13 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: Peach
Paul Simon was a good man . He must be rolling over in his coffin right now.
4 posted on 12/12/2003 6:44:24 AM PST by cajungirl (no)
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To: mountaineer
The Rats sure know how to put he fun in funeral.
5 posted on 12/12/2003 6:45:20 AM PST by tractorman
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To: Howlin
Funerally ping!
6 posted on 12/12/2003 6:45:56 AM PST by Miss Marple
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People around Illinois are remembering Senator Paul Simon as a man of integrity. .... Friends, fellow politicians and other admirers spoke of Simon's contributions to the state. Many remembered his down-to-earth nature. "It's a real loss... public service as an honorable profession," said Dawn Clark Netsch, former Illinois comptroller. link to story

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So why insult the man's character by having people like Clinton and Kennedy - utterly devoid of integrity - taint his funeral?

7 posted on 12/12/2003 6:46:57 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: tractorman
The Rats sure know how to put the fun in funeral.

(I guess I need a FR grammar checker)
8 posted on 12/12/2003 6:47:11 AM PST by tractorman
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To: mountaineer
I'm sure Simon's family is relieved that we're not in the midst of an election.
9 posted on 12/12/2003 6:47:41 AM PST by 1Old Pro (Gore as Sec'ty of Interior in Dean's administration? Algor needs a job.)
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To: cajungirl
He was a good man. I was sorry to hear he'd passed away and I'm sure he would not want his funeral turned into a political event. His family should tell Clinton to keep his mouth shut.
10 posted on 12/12/2003 6:48:34 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: mountaineer
Unfortunately, I am not riding the Acela this weekend. I hope someone else is monitoring the RAT Running Dogs.
11 posted on 12/12/2003 6:49:05 AM PST by Redleg Duke (Stir the pot...don't let anything settle to the bottom where the lawyers can feed off of it!)
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To: mountaineer
Simon was Jimmy Carter with a bowtie, but without the charming accent.

That is to say: Nothing at all, and he'll scarcely be missed.
12 posted on 12/12/2003 6:49:29 AM PST by Redbob
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To: mountaineer
Who'll be the first to scream "WE WILL WIN! WE WILL WIN!"
13 posted on 12/12/2003 6:49:31 AM PST by TheBigB (Just because you talk slower...doesn't mean your thoughts are any deeper...)
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To: Miss Marple
The article forgot to mention he endorsed Howard Dean.
14 posted on 12/12/2003 6:51:19 AM PST by katykelly
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To: mountaineer
May he rest in peace -- Simon, that is.

Wherever Clinton goes -- that is hell.

15 posted on 12/12/2003 6:53:28 AM PST by thinktwice (America is truly blessed ... with George W. Bush as President..)
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To: cajungirl
Agreed. Even though I didn't agree with many of his positions, the former senator seemed to be a decent and honorable man, unlike the two pigs that will be using his funeral for political photo-ops (and also ego massaging, in BeelzeBubba's case). I wonder if this white trash duo will be laughing as they enter the cemetary, only to muster up a tear when they notice the cameras rolling?
16 posted on 12/12/2003 6:55:03 AM PST by HenryLeeII
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To: mountaineer
Simon would roll over in his grave if he knew Clinton was coming to his funeral.
17 posted on 12/12/2003 6:56:11 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Redbob
I don't know if it is fair to sum up the life of a man with such a small statement. I think he will be missed by alot of people. He was more than a jimmie carter lookalike.
18 posted on 12/12/2003 6:57:00 AM PST by cajungirl (no)
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To: TheBigB
You read my mind.
19 posted on 12/12/2003 6:58:47 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I will defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: mountaineer
Wellstone Round II.
20 posted on 12/12/2003 7:00:27 AM PST by The_Victor
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Simon was one of the first to defend the sinkmeister. He was just another typical Rat who won his senatorial seat using massive illegal campaign contributions from Richard Denis to defeat Chuck Percy.
21 posted on 12/12/2003 7:01:09 AM PST by sharkhawk (I want to go to St. Somewhere)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Simon would roll over in his grave if he knew Clinton was coming to his funeral.

Clinton wil manufacture a teary eye, humbly bow his head, ask forgiveness, and then pronounce that Simon didn't really mean to endorse Howard Dean the day before his death.

22 posted on 12/12/2003 7:01:18 AM PST by TheRightGuy (ERROR CODE 018974523: Random Tagline Compiler Failure)
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To: mountaineer
Simon always reminded me of Mr. PotatoHead.

However, his was empty.

I cannot forget how he claimed to have "grown" in his knowledge of racial issues when he was lecturing someone who was up for confirmation before his committee that had been nominated by Reagan.

Quite an accomplishment to be pandering, pompous and condescending in one single statement.

Does he have any kids to "rally" the Dumbocrap base in attendance?

23 posted on 12/12/2003 7:06:24 AM PST by N. Theknow (Be a glowworm, a glowworm's never glum, cuz how can you be grumpy when the sun shines out your bum.)
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To: TheRightGuy
Get ready for the cameras to roll...The DNC will produce a campaign ad in there somewhere.
24 posted on 12/12/2003 7:06:47 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: sharkhawk
He was a good man, yes, a decent man who scuttled the impeachment trial of a, uhm I guess, a decent and good President! (Good and decent when he dies, by this logic!) Yes, a good man and a decent scoundrel. Heck, Bubba and Teddy could pick up handy quotes from this hate site to compose their oratories at the cemetery oratory!
25 posted on 12/12/2003 7:08:43 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Merry Shopping Season and a Happy Pre-Christmas Storewide Sales Event!)
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To: mountaineer
Clinton at a funeral:

26 posted on 12/12/2003 7:09:32 AM PST by haywoodwebb (American, Negro, Conservative!)
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To: Liberty Valance
Will the Dem 9, and Gore, and the Clintons, all attend...gonna be cute, no?
27 posted on 12/12/2003 7:09:59 AM PST by ken5050
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To: thinktwice
You miss so many shades in between with such a black and white perspective...
28 posted on 12/12/2003 7:18:16 AM PST by Eowyn-of-Rohan
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To: ken5050
Will the Dem 9, and Gore, and the Clintons, all attend...gonna be cute, no?

Myself, I just can't wait to hear Al Sharpton's eulogy.

29 posted on 12/12/2003 7:20:48 AM PST by TheRightGuy (ERROR CODE 018974523: Random Tagline Compiler Failure)
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To: mountaineer
It's ironic, just two months ago, Simon hosted an appearance by Walter Cronkite at that very same arena. I was there. It was... interesting.

I might attend, and give Freepers a report after.

30 posted on 12/12/2003 7:26:03 AM PST by wizardoz
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To: mountaineer; cajungirl
So why insult the man's character by having people like Clinton and Kennedy - utterly devoid of integrity - taint his funeral?

Listen, I know as Freepers we don't want to be like DU-ers and slam the dead, but let's not get carried away about Simon. I'm here at Carbondale. He took part in an America-bashing seminar after 9/11 where many students were required to attend by their professors. He was a huge fan of sending American soldiers to die in civil wars in Africa if and only if we had no vested interest to protect. He thought the marxist ANC in South Africa was great, and when I pointed out that they were hand in glove with the CPSA and that South Africa was worse off in terms of crime and human rights, he compared me to some nut who used to write him saying that Lithuanians secretly rule the world.

Of course, being Paul Simon, he did it very politely and with charm, but essentially, most of people's adoration of him stemmed from his Cronkite-like ability to deliver stunningly arrogant lines with a self-deprecating chuckle of humility. He was a great speaker. But there's no question what his ultimate goal for America was, and that puts him in the same league as Kennedy and Clinton. He may have refrained from some of the tackier things they have done (sex & alcohol) but... well... let's just not get carried away.

31 posted on 12/12/2003 7:33:54 AM PST by wizardoz
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To: Redbob
I'm glad I sold my stock in that bowtie manufacturer.
32 posted on 12/12/2003 7:39:42 AM PST by aardvark1
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To: wizardoz
I'll second that. His manners were charming, but his politics were poisonous. He did great harm to our country over the course of his career.
33 posted on 12/12/2003 7:44:19 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: mountaineer
Well, Simon never said an intelligent thing in his life so these clowns can continue the tradition.
34 posted on 12/12/2003 7:47:08 AM PST by Chi-townChief
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To: wizardoz
Good point. Simon's politics stunk big time, but even if he had a tiny shred of integrity, it's still an insult to have slimeballs like Clinton and Kennedy delivering bon mots at his funeral.
35 posted on 12/12/2003 7:51:00 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
. .if he knew Clinton was coming. .

I wonder how much BillyBob will charge Simon's estate for his "appearance".

36 posted on 12/12/2003 7:56:02 AM PST by MJemison
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To: haywoodwebb
I never get tired of that film clip,,it is an all time classic!
37 posted on 12/12/2003 7:58:47 AM PST by cajungirl (no)
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To: mountaineer
Paul Simon had an ACU lifetime rating of "5".

A bigger Liberal, one can not imagine. May he "rest" with most of his Liberal friends,... and I think we have a pretty good idea where that is!

38 posted on 12/12/2003 7:59:49 AM PST by Gritty ("Today, elected officials upholding the Constitution would be tarred and feathered!-Walter Williams)
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To: mountaineer
I can see the bitting of the lower lip now....and, will Clinton also CRY if he spots the camera on him?
39 posted on 12/12/2003 8:01:46 AM PST by Moby Grape
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To: mountaineer
Matt Baughman, Development Officer
Phone (618) 453-4009
Fax (618) 453-7800
baughman@siu.edu

Public Policy Institute
Southern Illinois University
Mail code 4429
Carbondale, IL 62901

40 posted on 12/12/2003 8:03:09 AM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: Impeach the Boy
His visit will be free of charge if the Simon camp can find some willing lady Saluki...
41 posted on 12/12/2003 8:04:13 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: mountaineer; Lady Composer
Paul Simon was onto the Clintons and their ilk.

Paul Simon put public service ahead of self and political party

Excerpt:

Paul Simon was above all that pandering and mean-spirited party loyalty that claims many politicians.

"I have seen public opinion polls take the place of leadership too often, and I have seen excessive partisanship harm our decision-making process," he said in a 1998 article in the Illinois School Board Journal. "I think that people in politics have to stand for something. I think one of the reasons for cynicism today is the public doesn't see us standing for anything other than what the latest poll says."

A good Democrat, Paul Simon refused to let party loyalties stop him from speaking the truth.

The "worst part" of the Bill Clinton sex scandal "was when Bill Clinton asked [image consultant] Dick Morris to take a poll on whether or not he should tell the truth," Paul Simon said in that school board journal article. "You don't take a poll on something like that! I never took a poll on anything before I decided how to vote on things. I did what I thought was best for the country."

42 posted on 12/12/2003 8:10:51 AM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: mountaineer
No one has brought up the big question:

Will Paul Simon sing at Paul Simon's funeral?





They did appear together on Saturday Night Live years ago...
43 posted on 12/12/2003 8:21:39 AM PST by GreenLanternCorps (WHO DEY! WHO DEY! WHO DEY THINK GONNA BEAT DEM BENGALS!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: GreenLanternCorps
Since he and Garfunkel are (temporarily) back together, perhaps "Bridge Over Troubled Water" would bring down the house.
44 posted on 12/12/2003 8:24:50 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: mountaineer
Please check your FReep mail.
45 posted on 12/12/2003 8:26:34 AM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: mountaineer
When the Lord determines that it is time for me to depart this earth, I assure you that Mrs. DFU will not allow either a rapist or killer to speak at my funeral. Paul Simon seemed to be a decent enough guy. He deserves better than speeches by these two.
46 posted on 12/12/2003 8:31:33 AM PST by doug from upland (Hillary would get 100% of the Islamist Terrorist vote)
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To: doug from upland
Amen!
47 posted on 12/12/2003 8:38:00 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
thanks - good job!
48 posted on 12/12/2003 8:38:52 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
Yes, Paul Simon was a a man of the highest integrety and was honest with his comments.

Unfortunately, he did not have the good looks to make the presidential nomination. He would have been a great candidate.
49 posted on 12/12/2003 10:50:24 AM PST by Lady Composer
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To: wizardoz
Well said. From a fellow Illinois resident.

Blessings,

bobo1
50 posted on 12/12/2003 1:42:22 PM PST by bobo1
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