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Muslims threatening France's core values, says head of presidential panel
MSNBC ^ | 12-12-03

Posted on 12/12/2003 8:01:26 AM PST by SJackson

PARIS, Dec. 12 — Muslim groups are chafing at the core values of modern-day France, the head of a presidential panel said Friday, a day after it called for the outlawing of Islamic head scarves in schools.

Bernard Stasi said outlawing head scarves and other religious symbols from schools will not solve all France's problems with its large immigrant community. But he said the nation cannot tolerate those who seek to undermine its values, which include a strict separation of church and state.

''There are indisputably Muslims or ... groups seeking to test the resistance of the republic, that bear a grudge against the values of the republic, that want France to no longer be France,'' Stasi said on France-Inter radio. ''We cannot tolerate that.''

Stasi is the former minister for France's overseas dominions from 1973-1974 and author of ''Immigration, a chance for France'' in 1984. He said that France has not succeeded in integrating its millions of immigrants, many from former colonies in North Africa.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: france

1 posted on 12/12/2003 8:01:28 AM PST by SJackson
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To: SJackson
core values of modern-day France

And what would those be?

2 posted on 12/12/2003 8:03:59 AM PST by Moosilauke
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To: SJackson
Muslim groups are chafing at the core values of modern-day France

Now there's a challenge

3 posted on 12/12/2003 8:06:17 AM PST by evad (Most politicians lie, cheat and steal. It's all they know to do and they won't stop...EVER!)
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To: Moosilauke
The values of France is the absence of values, of course.
4 posted on 12/12/2003 8:07:29 AM PST by I still care
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To: Moosilauke
is this not the bottom of the barrell calling the dirt,dirt ?
5 posted on 12/12/2003 8:08:29 AM PST by cars for sale
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To: SJackson
Not kidding....
6 posted on 12/12/2003 8:09:29 AM PST by traumer (Even paranoids have enemies)
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To: SJackson
The French are going to have to face the simple fact that everything their country strives to achieve (tolerance, women's rights, multi-culturalism, eliminating religion from public life) is the complete opposite of what the Islamic radicals insitute in areas they control. It's only a matter of time before these radicals in Europe start trying to institute sharia laws within their community.
7 posted on 12/12/2003 8:09:53 AM PST by bobjam
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To: Moosilauke
"And what would those be?"

Christianity in France, though greatly diluted now, is beginning to feel the squeeze of Mohamedism. Here's hoping the rest of France wakes up in time.

8 posted on 12/12/2003 8:11:03 AM PST by TheCrusader
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To: SJackson
France soon will be over run by the Mulsim hord...
9 posted on 12/12/2003 8:16:57 AM PST by JamesA (Stand together, stand your ground and don't back down. Its ours to lose!)
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To: Moosilauke
And what would those be?

How to surrender quickly.

10 posted on 12/12/2003 8:23:20 AM PST by ChefKeith (NASCAR...everything else is just a game!)
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To: SJackson
"Muslim groups are chafing at the core values of modern-day France"

Which are??????

Too bad you rotten Frenchies. See how La France will look forested with minarets and your homely women swathed from head to toe in Burkas. You'll also loose your precious nasal/gurgling language to Arabic.

And guess what?


It'll ALL be your own fault!!

Long live Henry VI!!
11 posted on 12/12/2003 8:25:15 AM PST by ZULU (Remember the Alamo)
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To: SJackson
Core values? And what would that be, removing Crucifix, removing God from life of others! Somewhere, something is wrong with his statement.
12 posted on 12/12/2003 8:26:46 AM PST by matrix2225
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To: JamesA
"France soon will be over run by the Mulsim hord.."

Oh well, at least we got to see Brigitte Bardot without a burqua. The Muslim pinup girls will bodly reveal a square inch of ankle bone.

13 posted on 12/12/2003 8:26:55 AM PST by TheCrusader
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To: SJackson
Rotten to the core values..
14 posted on 12/12/2003 8:31:54 AM PST by Print
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To: SJackson
The muslims are teaching the french to not eat so much cheese and to stop surrendering.
15 posted on 12/12/2003 8:34:33 AM PST by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: SJackson
Let's not underestimate the self-righteousness or ruthless barbarity of the French once they put their minds to something.

I've got as little use for the environutcases as the next guy, but I don't think we should kill them. On the other hand, the Frogs had no compunctions about blowing up the Rainbow Warrior with people aboard when it was interfering with their nuke testing.

If (and that's a pretty big "if") the French government ever decides that they've taken enough crap from their Muslime minority, they'll make the Nazis look like summer camp counselors.

16 posted on 12/12/2003 8:46:13 AM PST by white trash redneck
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To: SJackson
I think that ouwlawing France is what need to be done..
17 posted on 12/12/2003 8:49:10 AM PST by .45MAN ("I am what I am because of what I am")
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To: Moosilauke
And what would those be?

They fight to the death rather than surrender ?

18 posted on 12/12/2003 8:51:00 AM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: white trash redneck
They are numbingly dumb. They put up with violent crime in wholesale lots, millions of young men on the dole gone "wilding", then try to make it all better by oppressing schoolgirls. Wrong target, wrong tactic.
19 posted on 12/12/2003 8:52:05 AM PST by JasonC
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To: bobjam
The same might be said of the USA. America's greatest export is liberal culture in the form of TV, movies and internet porn.

The conservative view never makes it past the water's edge.
20 posted on 12/12/2003 8:53:26 AM PST by bert (Have you harassed a liberal today?)
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To: SJackson
Muslim groups are chafing at the core values of modern-day France, the head of a presidential panel said Friday, a day after it called for the outlawing of Islamic head scarves in schools.

Hey France... Put the SCARVE on it!

21 posted on 12/12/2003 8:58:39 AM PST by Anticommie
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To: SJackson
DING! DING! DING!
22 posted on 12/12/2003 9:00:08 AM PST by pabianice
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To: ZULU
Too bad you rotten Frenchies. See how La France will look forested with minarets and your homely women swathed from head to toe in Burkas. You'll also loose your precious nasal/gurgling language to Arabic.


Yep. And the french bawl-babies we'll want OUR help....
23 posted on 12/12/2003 9:05:14 AM PST by Roughneck (". . .For there is going to come a time when people won't listen to the truth. . .")
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To: ZULU
...also loose your precious nasal/gurgling language to Arabic.

Long live Henry VI!!

ROFLOL

24 posted on 12/12/2003 9:14:01 AM PST by muleskinner
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To: SJackson
"There are indisputably Muslims or ... groups seeking to test the resistance of the republic, that bear a grudge against the values of the republic, that want France to no longer be France,'' Stasi said on France-Inter radio."

Duh! Do ya' think! Moron, they want you all DEAD!

25 posted on 12/12/2003 9:25:42 AM PST by Desron13
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To: SJackson
Nice display of ugly chauvinism on this thread, I must say.

I will bet that France and the rest of Europe will deal with this problem sooner than the country that has practically banned the word "niggardly" from use, and where similar statements by anyone in government, not to say a "presidential panel", would be utterly inconceiveable! A French official spoke the truth, and what do our officials say? Oh, I remember now, "religion of peace"! Yes, that's the ticket!

26 posted on 12/12/2003 9:36:59 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Merry Shopping Season and a Happy Pre-Christmas Storewide Sales Event!)
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To: Revolting cat!
It IS pretty amazing; we will send/spend armies and an armada, tons of money and a fair amount of diplomatic good will to fight terrorism in Iraq, the French will not.

The French will step up and actually SAY something about terrorism at home, SAY something about immigration and undermining of whatever values they possess, and they will
ACT to restore their fundamental "French-ness"; the US will do none of those things.

Instead, the US actively supresses most of the fundamental values that made it the world's only superpower and pleads for understanding and tolerance from its illegals and unappreciative newbies .

Pretty sick actually.
27 posted on 12/12/2003 9:56:18 AM PST by norton
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To: Moosilauke
core values of modern-day France
And what would those be?

To be the only truly existentialist country on earth.

28 posted on 12/12/2003 9:59:59 AM PST by RightWhale (Close your tag lines)
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To: SJackson
are the frenchies finally starting to wake up. heres hoping they do.
29 posted on 12/12/2003 10:15:47 AM PST by holdmuhbeer
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To: bert
Those fundamentalist Muslims look at the entertainment garbage that gets broadcast into their countries- no wonder they despise us. And we insist that we be allowed to sell and broadcast our music, our movies, our products and our mores in places such as Saudi Arabia and Iran?
30 posted on 12/12/2003 10:49:17 AM PST by bobjam
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To: SJackson
Contrast this with the Feds in this country ruling a police force must allow a Muslim woman to wear a hear scarf on the job, against regulations.

Which country is the spineless multicultural sponge, again?

31 posted on 12/12/2003 10:54:06 AM PST by Dr.Deth
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