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Think Canada's the Place to Be? Think Again (A Canadian expat explains)
The Seattle Times ^ | December 12, 2003 | Jennifer Meeks

Posted on 12/12/2003 10:03:20 AM PST by quidnunc

It has been said that Seattle mirrors Canada in its tolerant attitudes, but there is a dark side to this utopia across the border.

My husband and I left Canada six years ago to start a new life in the United States. Tens of thousands of university-educated, middle-class Canadians leave Canada for the U.S. every year. The Canadian government even has a name for us — "The Brain Drain."

Why do we leave?

Taxes – Ever wonder why you see so many rusty cars up north? It's not just because they salt the roads in the wintertime. People can't afford new ones.

Fifty percent of the Canadian paycheck goes to taxes. And, in Ontario, for example, there's a 15-percent tax at the cash register. Think about paying that every time you buy a car, a fridge or clothes. The Canadian middle class has almost been taxed out of existence.

Official bilingualism – This is what most of the taxes pay for.

Learning and speaking another language may seem like fun to most Americans. Forget about that textbook Parisian you learned in high school. My husband speaks French fluently but not by Canadian government standards. He'd be passed over in employment by someone who speaks a government-approved level of French.

Canada is officially bilingual and that means everything must be in French and English. Everything. It's the law.

If you or your company do not comply with regulations then the official language "police" will be at your door. If you want to pursue a career in retail, the police, the post office, government, business and even the military, you must be bilingual.

The U.S. has its issues with African Americans and Canada has its issues with French Canadians. Affirmative action in the name of official bilingualism has resulted in a great deal of conflict.

Employment – If you are English-speaking in Canada, it's difficult to find a job.

Salaries are much lower than in the U.S. When we moved to the U.S., my husband almost tripled his salary.

Our standard of living is beyond what we could have ever achieved in a lifetime living in Canada. Our relatives can't believe how well average, middle-class Americans live. Our son, who has a learning disability, is getting the best education ever in an American public school.

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1 posted on 12/12/2003 10:03:21 AM PST by quidnunc
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To: quidnunc
Sounds like a Socialist 'paradise' to me.
2 posted on 12/12/2003 10:08:24 AM PST by kb2614 (".....We've done nothing and were all out of ideas!!")
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To: quidnunc
I hear Americans complain about the cost of medical bills but I would rather my child be alive and have a bill to pay than to be dead at no charge.

Just about sums it up, ey?

3 posted on 12/12/2003 10:09:20 AM PST by PaulJ
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To: PaulJ
bttt
4 posted on 12/12/2003 10:10:21 AM PST by Pikamax
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To: quidnunc
It has been said that Seattle mirrors Canada

Ah.  So that's why Seattle's such a little suck pot.

I've been here since 91 and now it all makes sense.

5 posted on 12/12/2003 10:13:01 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny
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To: quidnunc
If you or your company do not comply with regulations then the official language "police" will be at your door. If you want to pursue a career in retail, the police, the post office, government, business and even the military, you must be bilingual.

I think this statement is inaccurate. I lived in western Canada for three years, and the only French I ever saw (I never heard anyone actually speak it) was on road signs in national parks. Even the legal documents I signed were in English.

6 posted on 12/12/2003 10:17:17 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Alberta -- the TRUE North strong and free.)
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To: quidnunc
Official bilingualism – This is what most of the taxes pay for.

And if Tom Ridge has his way, we can enjoy this benefit too.

7 posted on 12/12/2003 10:20:49 AM PST by ppaul
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To: Psycho_Bunny
Ah. So that's why Seattle's such a little suck pot.

You need to develop a sense of intellectual challenge.

I lived here from 1971-74, 1989-93, and 1997-present. I wouldn't live anywhere else.

The people who make this a miniature Canada are my friends and neighbors, and I don't have a problem with them. I enjoy their liberal foibles, and I especially enjoy pricking their little balloons. All it takes is a smidgeon of intellectual rigor and an understanding of the Constitution -- and pop! goes their balloon. It's so easy and so much fun.

Despite the problems pointed out most eloquently by the author of this article, if a plebiscite were held in Western Washington about seceding from the US to become a Canadian province, it would narrowly win.

8 posted on 12/12/2003 10:22:01 AM PST by Publius
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To: Alberta's Child
I think this statement is inaccurate.

Too much socialism has obviously addled your brain.

9 posted on 12/12/2003 10:22:14 AM PST by ppaul
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To: quidnunc
I spent a week in Ottowa in Aug 2001. Neat visiting, but I wouldn't want to live there. ugh
10 posted on 12/12/2003 10:22:31 AM PST by Prof Engineer (...just a moment, just a moment...I've detected a fault in the AE35 unit.)
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To: quidnunc
The part about bilingualism is really overstated. It is a big factor if you want to work for the government or if you live in Quebec, but outside of that it is just another waste of your tax dollars.

The rest of it is spot on, and could go further into the lack of property rights, restrictions on freedom, the lack of any kind of check or balance against the power of the PM, the corruption in the government, the lapdog media...
11 posted on 12/12/2003 10:22:56 AM PST by Grig
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To: quidnunc
The only thing wrong with Canada is the French-Canadians. This article makes Canada sound like a lot like France.
12 posted on 12/12/2003 10:24:11 AM PST by rllngrk33 (Liberals are guilty of everything they accuse Conservatives of.)
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To: ppaul
Too much socialism has obviously addled your brain.

See #11. Too much time in the U.S. has made you thoroughly ignorant of how things really work in Canada.

13 posted on 12/12/2003 10:25:03 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Alberta -- the TRUE North strong and free.)
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To: Alberta's Child
I agree - though I live in the US, we are on the Manitoba border, have many Canadian friends and go there often. No one I know even speaks French.I think this health care thing is overblown too - just because we wish to be better, doesn't necessarily make it so. My husband waited 7 months here to see a neurologist while fighting the insurance co here - my canadian friend waited 2 days. My Canadian friends are anything but poor - huge new homes. I don't wish to be Canadian, and I also don't wish to see things made to look worse than they are, just to make a point.
14 posted on 12/12/2003 10:26:06 AM PST by Leeann
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To: quidnunc
Anyone know what percentage of Canadian university tuition is gov't subsidized?
15 posted on 12/12/2003 10:26:54 AM PST by ctdonath2
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To: Grig
Right on.

What makes the bilingual requirements for government jobs even more irrelevant is that there are parts of Canada where many government functions are done by non-government people.

When I lived in Calgary, the "post office" location closest to my office was actually a Canada Post counter in a local Seven-Eleven, staffed by Seven-Eleven employees. I'd be surprised if anyone there knew more than eight words of French.

16 posted on 12/12/2003 10:29:06 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Alberta -- the TRUE North strong and free.)
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To: quidnunc
I emigrated from Canada and became a US citizen 10 years ago. I love to visit Vancouver, but I would never go back to live. The differences are subtle, but real. Canadians are less free than we are, and accept a level of government intrusion into their lives that Americans would find intolerable. Unfortunately, nearly 2 generations of socialism had bred an apathy and acceptance of their situation. It frightens me to think that Dean, Hitlery, and the other commie left here in the US want to make us more like our socialist northern neighbors. We must be ever vigilant to make sure our freedom stays intact, despite our politicians.

I am thankful every day that I live here. God Bless America.
17 posted on 12/12/2003 10:30:00 AM PST by Astronaut
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To: Publius
"Understanding of the Constitution" has new meaning to me these days. If you understand and argue the Constitution, which version are you using? You certainly couldn't carry on an "intellectual" ballon popping argument on our Constitution vs. socialism based on the SCOTUS latest version. You are right about Western Wash and Canada however.
19 posted on 12/12/2003 10:30:43 AM PST by caisson71
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To: Leeann; quidnunc
My Canadian friends are anything but poor - huge new homes.

The elitist bourgeoisie almost always laud socialism.
It's so much better for the unwashed masses, eh?

20 posted on 12/12/2003 10:32:13 AM PST by ppaul
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To: caisson71
If you understand and argue the Constitution, which version are you using?

I use the 1787 version. Not the Revised Constitution of 1933. If I argued that Constitution, I'd lose.

21 posted on 12/12/2003 10:34:06 AM PST by Publius
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To: Astronaut; All
Anyone who has lived on both sides of the border might be interested in a great book about Canadian history. It's called Caesars of the Wilderness, and it chronicles the parallel growth of Canada as a nation and the Hudson's Bay Company as the oldest corporate presence on the continent.

I found this to be a remarkable book, because I think it helps explain why the underlying attitudes of Canadians towards people in positions of authority are so different than the attitudes of Americans in this regard.

23 posted on 12/12/2003 10:35:00 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Alberta -- the TRUE North strong and free.)
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To: Astronaut
Canadians are less free than we are, and accept a level of government intrusion into their lives that Americans would find intolerable.

By some of the replies on this thread, it appears that more and more Americans will tolerate increasingly more gubbamint - even FReepers.
O, how long will our free republic survive?

24 posted on 12/12/2003 10:35:24 AM PST by ppaul
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To: TonyRo76
Which tax to support which kooky policy did you have in mind?
25 posted on 12/12/2003 10:36:44 AM PST by Publius
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To: ppaul
And if Tom Ridge has his way, we can enjoy this benefit too.

Ah, but the second language would be Spanish. I suppose that is better.

26 posted on 12/12/2003 10:36:47 AM PST by GingisK
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To: quidnunc
Good article! Too bad the liberals can't see the error in the way the socialist way works.
27 posted on 12/12/2003 10:37:57 AM PST by sunryse
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To: quidnunc
A lot of people crack on the French influence in Canada, and rightly so...but I find there is a heavy sentimental reliance on Britain too which seems to stultify any independent Canadian spirit.

Will there ever be a separate Canadian identity?

28 posted on 12/12/2003 10:39:07 AM PST by what's up
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To: quidnunc
"It has been said that Seattle mirrors Canada in its tolerant attitudes"

Modern application of 'tolerance' is the government's encroaching on one group of people's rights to allow the spread of another group's decadence. Far from true benevolence, this type of 'tolerance' is the systematic extermination of Christian morality under the two headed beast they have named "civil rights" and "tolerance".

There is nothing 'civil' about homosexual unions, abortion, pornography, feminism, no-fault divorce, and irreligion. It's uncivility posing as freedom. Notice that with the ascendency of 'tolerance' comes the public prohibition of Christianity. Evil has become good, and good has become evil. What we need is another Emporer Constantine.

29 posted on 12/12/2003 10:39:46 AM PST by TheCrusader
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To: Publius
Remember, the Constitution is a "living document" that sprouts a new "appendage" everytime the Supreme Court is in session. It has become the unrecoginzed beast of even the 1933 version. I wonder if "swearing to uphold the Constitution of the United States" means anything anymore?
30 posted on 12/12/2003 10:40:33 AM PST by caisson71
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To: quidnunc
Employment – If you are English-speaking in Canada, it's difficult to find a job

In my part of the country, it is hard to find a job if you are an ENGLISH-SPEAKING AMERICAN.
31 posted on 12/12/2003 10:41:46 AM PST by The South Texan (The Democrat Party and the leftist (ABCCBSNBCCNN NYLATIMES)media are a criminal enterprise!)
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To: ctdonath2
I don't know what the percentage is, but it's probably very high. One thing to remember, though, is that there is almost no Federal involvement in university-level education (or any level of education at all, for that matter) -- most government involvement is at the provincial level.

It's also worth noting that higher education in Canada is far more selective than it is here in the U.S. -- they don't operate under the silly notion that any 18 year-old with a heartbeat and a moderate ability to respond to light and heat is a candidate for college admissions. I was quite started at the capabilities of my peers in Canada, so much so that I determined that Canadian schools in general are one level "above" their American counterparts (i.e., a typical Canadian with a high school diploma is roughly the equivalent of your average American with a bachelor's degree, etc.)

32 posted on 12/12/2003 10:42:12 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Alberta -- the TRUE North strong and free.)
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To: Publius
Why on earth would you laugh away at the mess that these ex-pat Canucks have made of Western Washington? Lets all have a real good laugh at the "foibles" of the leftist-liberal Canuck Eurocrats that have made the Seattle area just like every other crappy socialist cesspool; like New York, Chicago, and Los Angeles.

Har-de-har-har.
33 posted on 12/12/2003 10:42:24 AM PST by vanmorrison
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To: ppaul
"O, how long will our free republic survive?"

I wonder, if you asked this question of the Founding Fathers and early American pioneers, if they wouldn't tell you that American freedom is in the late stages of terminal illness, if not already lying the grave? At least as they understood freedom, that is.

34 posted on 12/12/2003 10:45:07 AM PST by TheCrusader
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To: kb2614
Its what the Clintons had in mind for the rest of us.
35 posted on 12/12/2003 10:45:08 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: quidnunc
I'm as big a critic of my country and it's long slide into multicult-liberal irrelevance and overbearing government as anyone but this article is extreme to the point of being moronic.

Ever wonder why you see so many rusty cars up north? It's not just because they salt the roads in the wintertime. People can't afford new ones.

140,000 new vehicle sales in Sept 2003 according to Statistics Canada. Off 3.3% from year before but still historically strong.

http://www.statcan.ca/Daily/English/031113/d031113b.htm

Fifty percent of the Canadian paycheck goes to taxes. And, in Ontario, for example, there's a 15-percent tax at the cash register. Think about paying that every time you buy a car, a fridge or clothes.

I'm in the top marginal tax bracket. My combined federal and provincial taxes equal about 40% of my gross income before deductions for things like retirement plan contributions, charity, and other allowable deductions. Still far too high in my opinion, but it's not 50%.

As for the "15& tax in Ontario" that's the combined 8& provincial sales tax plus the 7% federal sales tax (GST). The GST replaced a 12.5% manufacturers tax that was hidden. All provinces pay this amount except Albertal as they don't have a provincial sales tax. Other provinces individual taxes may be higher or lower by a point or two that the 8% in Ontario. We have no municipal or county levied taxes for retail sales. Property taxes are high in Toronto, but not out of line for any major North American city. Smaller cities and towns tax far less. For example, I pay as much property tax on a 650 sq. ft. condo as my parents do on a large ranch style home on a 1/4 acre lot in a small Ontario city.

Official bilingualism — This is what most of the taxes pay for.

No. It eats up a lot but nowhere near the largest chunk. Health Care (socialized), debt servicing and Aboriginal Affairs eat up more. Not good, but again the article is innacurate.

Canada is officially bilingual and that means everything must be in French and English. Everything. It's the law.

Yes, we are a bilingual nation, but the level of services and depth of committment is determined by the individual province. Retail packaging must be English/French with the exception of really ethnic foods, etc. Quebec is another matter, and is the only place where "language police" exists. They are a pain but the province is majority French speaking and the willingness to bend to these often silly demands has a history going back to the conquest of New France by the British in 1759.

The U.S. has its issues with African Americans and Canada has its issues with French Canadians. Affirmative action in the name of official bilingualism has resulted in a great deal of conflict.

Great deal of conflict? I'm 42 and don't recall any language riots causing major urban centers to burn and drive affluent citizens out of town abandoning the inner cities to the slumlords. A lot of noses out of joint and yes, difficulty getting a good job in the civil service if you're English only, but that's about it frankly.

Employment — If you are English-speaking in Canada, it's difficult to find a job.

Utter Barbara Streisand. In the civil service yes, but outside of Quebec (an majority French speaking province) this dog don't hunt.

Salaries are much lower than in the U.S. When we moved to the U.S., my husband almost tripled his salary.

In some professions this is no doubt true, and mortgage interest deductability would be nice (we don't have it) but in the main earnings are similar outside of some professions like medicine (where the U.S. is much higher).

Our son, who has a learning disability, is getting the best education ever in an American public school.

This person loves the public school system. Alarm bells. Our is probably not much better, but from what I regularly read here it's not any worse on the whole.

Meanwhile, it is the norm for Canadian schools to have at least 40 kids per class — that is, if the teachers are not on strike.

Well, I can't speak for British Columbia (our "left coast"...mired in labour strife regularly) but I have numerous friends who teach high school in central Toronto and class sizes are in the 25-35 range...about the same it was when I was in high school in the 1970's. To be sure, teacher's unions are nightmares wherever you encounter them.

Hospitals are miserable. There are long waiting lists for the most basic treatments and operations.

While our Health Care system is strained it's far from on the verge of collapse. Recently, and I'll spare everyone the details, I needed some outpatient surgery for an unpleasant but in no way life threatening issue. My specialist saw me the same day I consulted my family GP and I had the surgery the next day at aprivately run (but taxpayer paid for) outpatient clinic. I'm nobody with any special connections except a long term relationship with my GP. Is the U.S. system better? I'd say yes without question, and I have several family members who are American doctors. That said, it's a give and take thing with most Canucks.

In Canada, there is one system of health care for everyone — except the elite or government bureaucrats, who go to the U.S. and pay for decent health care.

We absolutely should allow private medical delivery to bleed the excees off the public system if one can afford it but we stubbornly don't, on this I'm consistant. Still it's not just the "elites" that can go to the States. My Dad, in no way an elite (except to me that is) recently had an MRI in Michigan because he didn't want to have to wait the few months it would have taken here. His life was not in danger, BTW, it was just to check for complications to an event that he had that passed.

The last bit about Chretien and the Libs rings true, but the political right shot itself in the foot in the 1990's...we'll see if things change with the new unitied Conservative party. That said, I recall the Dems holding control of congress for a lot more than 10 years over the past century. Corrections welcome if I'm wrong.

Look, my country is NOT utopia, but then nothing is. It's got too much Euro baggage in it's history and we try too often to be all things to all people here when the government should stop the social engineering and just keep the lights on and the armories full. Maybe we'll learn, I don't know. But the author sounds like someone to me who will be making an endless list of complaints and whines about her adopted nation in a few years just like she does today about Canuckistan.

There's a lot I don't like about Canada and the way it's run but this article is innacurate, exaggerated and often plain wrong. Enjoy this person...I doubt you've heard the last of her.

36 posted on 12/12/2003 10:46:54 AM PST by mitchbert (Facts are Stubborn Things)
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To: ctdonath2
I think a lot more than American. I believe a student at University pays around $3000 for a $7000 per year bill.

That's only what the government pays. Of course Universities are built and were funded by private grants.
37 posted on 12/12/2003 10:47:33 AM PST by Dunedain
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To: TheCrusader
What we need is another Emperor Constantine.

Unfortunately, we may end up with the Mahdi instead.

38 posted on 12/12/2003 10:49:33 AM PST by ppaul
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To: ppaul
Huh? My friends run their own businesses - resorts, car dealerships, and another a plastic mfg. business.I just think people here seem to think Canada is much different than what we see - people here move back and forth across the border all the time -we like each, why is that a bad thing? We can't get any doctors up here and are sharing some from Canada. I think Canada is a great neighbor, I love the people there, and we all seem to get along fine.
39 posted on 12/12/2003 10:55:46 AM PST by Leeann
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To: mitchbert
Look, my country is NOT utopia, but then nothing is.

In fact, after living there for a few years I determined that your country isn't really a "country" at all by modern standards -- it's actually very close to what the Founding Fathers of the United States envisioned when the United States was created!

I'll dig up a famous quote from the past, which got a lot of laughs from co-workers who wanted to know why someone from the U.S. would move there:

"I didn't move to Canada -- I moved to Alberta."

;-)

40 posted on 12/12/2003 11:01:46 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Alberta -- the TRUE North strong and free.)
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To: quidnunc
The poster must be from the East. I feel sorry for you. :)

I'm Western Canadian, so I don't have to deal with the bilingual crap too much. I voted against the Charlotten Accords which was an attempt to bribe Quebec not to leave Canada. If they want to leave, leave, but I'm not paying you to stay. My bigger beef with our politicians is that THEY made the French thing an issue. It could have simmered away as people got bored with the separatists, but NOOO, the Tories and the Liberals had to constantly throw it in our face.

Canadians and Americans assume a lot of things about our tax systems. Both systems are good and bad for various reasons. One thing that annoys me is that gas tax in Canada gets into general revenue. It does NOT largely get spent on roads. But Canada also has larger exemptions than the US. I know because I did my wife's taxes. She is an American living in Canada with me.

I live in Victoria and its one of the most beautiful places on earth.

The biggest problems we have compared to America isn't taxes.

The first one is healthcare. America has problems too. But Canada refuses to acknowledge that the system is unsustainable. As the population ages we will likely spend 100% of tax revenue on healthcare. Trying to suggest that perhaps the patient should pay a portion of the cost (say 10% of a 100,000 procedure) gets thrown back in your face as anti-Canadian.

Our other problem is we are run as a socialist regime. The CRTC (TV regulation branch of the government) had the police confiscating satellite dishes? Why? Because they picked up 100% US content. Canada wants to control how much US content we watch on TV.

We have a lot of socialists. Too many. Even Christians who profess to believe in socialism. Which is not rational if they knew the tenents of that belief.

Really nothing can be done to change how things are here. Canadians are not known to take action. Separation is unlikely. But it could be worse. We could be France.
41 posted on 12/12/2003 11:01:52 AM PST by Dunedain
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To: Alberta's Child
Canada is far more selective than it is here in the U.S. --
they don't operate under the silly notion that any 18 year-old with a heartbeat
and a moderate ability to respond to light and heat
is a candidate for college admissions.

You are kidding of course.
I teach mathematics in a Canadian university.
I would say the average IQ of my students is 100
ie. that of the general public.
That would not be too bad
except for the fact
that because of their dismal high school education
they are unable to do mathematics at the grade 10 level.

42 posted on 12/12/2003 11:04:59 AM PST by Allan
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To: Dunedain; mitchbert
I'm also willing to bet that I'm one of the only people in the United States who knows that the "Petro" in Petro-Canada is actually an acronym . . .

Pierre Elliott Trudeau Ripped Off - Canada

LOL.

43 posted on 12/12/2003 11:06:14 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Alberta -- the TRUE North strong and free.)
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To: Alberta's Child
"I didn't move to Canada -- I moved to Alberta."

Good one!

44 posted on 12/12/2003 11:06:16 AM PST by mitchbert (Facts are Stubborn Things)
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To: Dunedain
Canukistan IS France...
45 posted on 12/12/2003 11:07:15 AM PST by vanmorrison
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To: quidnunc
Bilingualism:

After a certain level in any Federal dept (military, civil service,...) there is a legal requirement for being bilingual. Since a frenchman is much more likely to speak English than the other way around, the result is that in a lot of departments, some 70% and more of the senior managers,commanders are french.

Health Care:

They have a top notch (equipment, personnel) Defense Dept. hospital in Ottawa - the catch: only senior military, civil servants, and politicians are allowed in! Shades of the Soviet Union.

Also, the universal access - oh yeah, looks good on paper, but you can die on the waiting list for service and the equipment is simply not there. To get to the front of the line, it's who you know.

It's been calculated that this taxpayer health care comes out to about $3000CDN per capita. You can get a lot of private insurance coverage for this amount in the US. So this health care is a false sacred cow.

46 posted on 12/12/2003 11:07:49 AM PST by americanSoul (Better to die on your feet, than live on your knees. Live Free or Die. I should be in New Hampshire.)
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To: Allan
Like I said . . . heh-heh.

Where do you teach? Most of the people I worked with were engineering grads from the University of British Columbia, the University of Alberta, and the University of Calgary -- so maybe I'm a little biased towards engineers here.

Having said that, I will point out that most PhD.-level students in the U.S. probably couldn't do 10th-grade mathematics, either.

47 posted on 12/12/2003 11:09:46 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Alberta -- the TRUE North strong and free.)
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To: Publius
The people who make this a miniature Canada are my friends and neighbors

Are these the same that voted for having a giant statue of Lenin put up in the city?

48 posted on 12/12/2003 11:10:32 AM PST by americanSoul (Better to die on your feet, than live on your knees. Live Free or Die. I should be in New Hampshire.)
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