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Compassionate Society Should Discourage Deadly Homosexual Behavior
American Family Association ^ | March 19, 2001 | Gary Glenn, State Director AFA/Michigan

Posted on 12/12/2003 11:39:40 AM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist

The New England Journal of Medicine reports that men who smoke risk cutting 7.3 years off their lives. Oxford University's International Journal of Epidimiology, 1997, reports "...Life expectancy at age 20 years for gay and bisexual men is 8 to 20 years less than for all men...nearly half of gay and bisexual men currently aged 20 years will not reach their 65th birthday. Judging by the years at risk, homosexual activity is up to three times deadlier than smoking. Click on the link and you will be directed to where you can click on another link to see the official statistics from the Oxford University international Journal of Epidimiology.At that link you will also other links showing that men who have sex with men are 860% more likely to contract a sexually transmitted disease(STD), INCREASING up to 500% their risk of contracting HIV/AIDS. As well, Between The Lines, Michigan's statewide gay newspaper reports the risk of anal cancer "soars" by nearly 4,000% for men who have sex with men. Pap smears for women have dropped the risk of cervical cancer by 75% , from 40-50 per 100,000 to 8 to 10 per 100,000. Even if a pap smear for gay and bisexual men is ever developed, not looking likely at present, a similiar drop of 75% would still mean that men who have sex with increase their odds of developing anal cancer by 800%. Between The Lines states that a condom only offers limited protection against developing anal cancer.


TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: afa; aids; consequences; cultureofdeath; culturewar; gay; gays; health; hiv; homosexual; homosexualagenda; homosexualvice; journalepidemiology; romans1; sin; sodomy; std
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1 posted on 12/12/2003 11:39:41 AM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
I guess it's all in what you "smoke..."
2 posted on 12/12/2003 11:40:36 AM PST by Fangorn
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Darn.

I'm sorry that their lifestyle "choice" means an earlier death.

But, politically speaking, it also means fewer (liberal) older voters in the future....

(Many will still be able to cast their democratic ballots though.)
3 posted on 12/12/2003 11:42:24 AM PST by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only support FR by donating monthly, but ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist; scripter
So if you're a gay smoker, your life expectancy plumets even lower.
4 posted on 12/12/2003 11:42:48 AM PST by NYer (Keep CHRIST in Christmas!)
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To: Fangorn
I just hope that's true. It would be a reaming of another sort if Medicare had to start buying several 100K vials of AZT.
5 posted on 12/12/2003 11:43:01 AM PST by .cnI redruM (Dean wouldn't give you a reach around unless he had a razor hidden in his hand.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Mistake...The article info is found instead at http://www.afa.net/homosexual_agenda/ha031901.asp
6 posted on 12/12/2003 11:43:29 AM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Won't see the government 'nannies' take this cause on.
7 posted on 12/12/2003 11:43:37 AM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
"), INCREASING up to 500% their risk of contracting HIV/AIDS"

This must be a compound probability; I recall reading the % chance for the receiving end of anal sex (female or male) is huge compared to the risk for females being with hiv-positive guy front-side.
8 posted on 12/12/2003 11:43:56 AM PST by WoofDog123
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
I'm not sure what the point of the article is. Do they think this will keep homos from being homos?
9 posted on 12/12/2003 11:44:37 AM PST by Protagoras (Vote Republican, we're not as bad as the other guys.)
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To: NYer
So if you're a gay smoker, your life expectancy plumets even lower.

Yes, and your PC score is cut in half by the smoking. A gay smoker that is HIV positive, however, increases his PC score 33%.

10 posted on 12/12/2003 11:45:37 AM PST by Kenton (This space for rent)
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To: .cnI redruM
Yup. Strange. Smoked sausage tastes good on a cracker, smoking sausage will kill you early.
11 posted on 12/12/2003 11:46:29 AM PST by Fangorn
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To: Protagoras
From the article page,perhaps this is the point:"Compassionate Society Should Discourage Deadly Homosexual Behavior."
12 posted on 12/12/2003 11:46:54 AM PST by John W
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To: Protagoras
Do they think this will keep homos from being homos?

No, they want smokers to put condoms on their cigarettes.

13 posted on 12/12/2003 11:47:31 AM PST by angkor
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To: Semper Paratus
Won't see the government 'nannies' take this cause on.

Too bad they won't push for laws making it illegal to be queer in public places. I'd even settle for "no screaming pillow-biter" zones.

14 posted on 12/12/2003 11:47:39 AM PST by Orangedog (Remain calm...all is well! [/sarcasm])
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
This should be just as the article says, a reason why homosexuality should NOT be promoted as a "safe" or "alternative" or "ok" lifestyle. Entering into this lifestyle one would find themselves among men who are 320% more likely than heterosexuals to have unprotected sex WITHOUT telling their partners they're HIV positive.

Click on the link. This lifestyle is a death sentence to all who embrace it.
15 posted on 12/12/2003 11:47:46 AM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Protagoras
It obviously isn't directed at homos but to counter the propaganda that it is an acceptable alternative lifestyle.
16 posted on 12/12/2003 11:48:30 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies foreign and domestic agree: Bush must be destroyed.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Not only did you give an incorrect link, you also deliberately falsified the title of the article. How are honesty and integrity served when you knowingly post false information? How can you condem others for their perversion when you refuse to be honest?

The real title is:

Compassionate Society Should Discourage Deadly Homosexual Behavior
17 posted on 12/12/2003 11:48:53 AM PST by jimkress (America has become Soviet Union Lite)
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To: John W
Have at it. If you think it will work. (hint,,,it would be the first time in recorded history)

They think wrong IMO.

Looks like whoever posted this was just throwing raw meat to those who already agree with them.

18 posted on 12/12/2003 11:51:53 AM PST by Protagoras (Vote Republican, we're not as bad as the other guys.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
I guess gays and bisexuals should be complaining about the Social Security tax the most.
19 posted on 12/12/2003 11:53:16 AM PST by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: justshutupandtakeit
It is obviously directed at you. In order to get you to click the link.

Raw meat to those who already agree. It's a poular but ineffective political tactic.

20 posted on 12/12/2003 11:54:09 AM PST by Protagoras (Vote Republican, we're not as bad as the other guys.)
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To: jimkress
So, posting under a different title is the moral equivalent of sodomy?
21 posted on 12/12/2003 11:54:48 AM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: truthandlife
I guess gays and bisexuals should be complaining about the Social Security tax the most.

Good point.

23 posted on 12/12/2003 11:56:55 AM PST by Protagoras (Vote Republican, we're not as bad as the other guys.)
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To: Pyranose1
Perhaps correct, but irrelevant to the reason it was posted .
24 posted on 12/12/2003 11:58:40 AM PST by Protagoras (Vote Republican, we're not as bad as the other guys.)
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To: Mr. Lucky
So, posting under a different title is the moral equivalent of sodomy?

Ask God. He went out of his way to forbid false witness. He left sodomy to a different less decernible list.

25 posted on 12/12/2003 12:01:08 PM PST by Protagoras (Vote Republican, we're not as bad as the other guys.)
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To: Orangedog
I wonder how the Gay community would react if employers discriminated against them in their hiring practices...the same way some do smokers? If keeping healthcare costs down is an excuse to deny smokers employment, than couldn't the same logic be applied, here? Or maybe homosexuals should have to pay a higher premium to cover their "risky" behaviour. With the attack on smokers and overwieght Americans by health providers and government, it's only fair that those involved in this high-risk behaviour also be held accountable.
26 posted on 12/12/2003 12:01:53 PM PST by cwb
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Damn only 50%, I was hoping for closer to 100%.
28 posted on 12/12/2003 12:05:32 PM PST by glaseatr
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To: Pyranose1
It is an issue for the general population.

It's no more of an issue than any other public health issue. Less than most.

Washing hands is more of an issue by a huge margin. Care to have government address that legislatively?

If not, I say, lets have a bunch of threads addressing that as a big issue. I haven't seen one on FR yet.

29 posted on 12/12/2003 12:07:08 PM PST by Protagoras (Vote Republican, we're not as bad as the other guys.)
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To: truthandlife
"I guess gays and bisexuals should be complaining about the Social Security tax the most."


don't forget young black inner-city males, straight or otherwise.
31 posted on 12/12/2003 12:09:07 PM PST by Blzbba
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Health & Homosexuality
32 posted on 12/12/2003 12:09:21 PM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Its amazing how obsessed some on this board seemed to be with the homosexual lifestyle.
33 posted on 12/12/2003 12:09:33 PM PST by HouTom
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
A sad story,and a sad situation. And an even sadder comment on these times. Most of the "Gays" that we see almost nightly on the TV don't seem to be overly concerned about any of these kinds of reports.

So,like the old guy said to me in my younger days :"You buys yer ticket.And ya takes yer ride."

Still holds.
34 posted on 12/12/2003 12:10:52 PM PST by Pompah (If it ain't broke,fix it 'til it is.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Praise the LORD !

35 posted on 12/12/2003 12:12:31 PM PST by traumer (Even paranoids have enemies)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
But, politically speaking, it also means fewer (liberal) older voters in the future....

Not necessarily. A gay (not that there's anything wrong with that...) friend of mine said his worst fear was being thought a liberal.

36 posted on 12/12/2003 12:13:24 PM PST by bruin66 (Guns don't kill people. Bullets do. Guns just make them go really fast.)
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To: Pyranose1
"There were over 14,000 cases of AIDS where the patient received blood products.
Remember that in America the blood is screened and the chances of contracting HIV and subsequent AIDS is very, very, very, very, very low.
So that infers that either the blood screeners are lying about the chances (there aren't too many blood transfusions statistically speaking) or someone or some group is really working overtime to donate blood disproportionate to the general population. "



Scary, scary stuff. Yet, somehow I've never trusted the "It's OK - our blood is 100% trusted" mantra.

14,000 people are testament to this.
37 posted on 12/12/2003 12:13:56 PM PST by Blzbba
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Too bad, so sad.
38 posted on 12/12/2003 12:14:17 PM PST by JamesA (Stand together, stand your ground and don't back down. Its ours to lose!)
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To: jimkress
Look, if you will read the entire article I posted, you will see that I CLEARLY stated that one had to click on this link and then click to another link to get the article from The Oxford University's International Journal of Epidemiology, where it showed the higher mortality rate for gays. The Oxford address was gigantic in length to type out, hence I used this method for one to get to it. Ther was no preconceived desire on my part to intentionally deceive, so what's the problem? Maybe you don't want this info posted? Is that it? Seeing how you blew a gasket it is apparent that you need to 1.) go decaf, 2.) maybe take a chill pil, and 3.) BACK OFF!
39 posted on 12/12/2003 12:14:54 PM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Fangorn
If this is true, then, like cigarettes, gays should be banned from all public restaurants and public buildings/sarcasm
40 posted on 12/12/2003 12:15:08 PM PST by Roughneck (". . .For there is going to come a time when people won't listen to the truth. . .")
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Homosexuals have a higher rate of smokers compared to the general population, so they are double-screwed. Maybe it's due to their addictive behaviour, I don't pretend to know or understand.

It's up to them to better themselves. There's help out there, but the choice is theirs.

41 posted on 12/12/2003 12:15:31 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture
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To: HouTom
"Its amazing how obsessed some on this board seemed to be with the homosexual lifestyle."

It's even more amazing how homosexuals are obsessed with their own lifestyle...and getting others to accept it.
43 posted on 12/12/2003 12:16:47 PM PST by cwb
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To: HouTom
"Its amazing how obsessed some on this board seemed to be with the homosexual lifestyle."


I think it's a natural reaction to having a lifestyle shoved down your throats and told that everything about it is A-OK, when all facts point to the contrary.
44 posted on 12/12/2003 12:17:11 PM PST by Blzbba
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To: jimkress
Compassion can be dangerous to your health.
45 posted on 12/12/2003 12:17:18 PM PST by Old Professer
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To: traumer
No, that's the wrong attitude. Praise the Lord when one gives up a self-destructive lifestyle.
46 posted on 12/12/2003 12:18:32 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture
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"Homosexuals have a higher rate of smokers compared to the general population, so they are double-screwed."


There are at least 2 good jokes here that I will try to abstain from making...........



47 posted on 12/12/2003 12:19:20 PM PST by Blzbba
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To: HouTom
It is rather queer.
48 posted on 12/12/2003 12:19:22 PM PST by Old Professer
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To: cwboelter
Can you give any examples where you personally have been required to accept the homosexual lifestyle?
49 posted on 12/12/2003 12:20:51 PM PST by HouTom
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To: Blzbba
Good thing then I didn't say "The future is in their hands"
50 posted on 12/12/2003 12:21:46 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture
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