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Miserable sinners that we are, we'd sooner reach for the whisky than venture a prayer
Daily Telegraph ^ | December 13, 2003 | Adam Nicolson

Posted on 12/13/2003 1:09:28 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

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1 posted on 12/13/2003 1:09:29 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
This is a very interesting article. Thank you for posting it.
2 posted on 12/13/2003 1:35:02 AM PST by texasflower (in the event of the rapture...the Bush White House will be unmanned!)
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You're welcome.
3 posted on 12/13/2003 1:36:48 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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I see you continue to do good work finding such excellent essays.

"The ancient assumption is the pessimistic one that the human condition is essentially disastrous. We are weak, incompetent and fallible. We are miserable sinners. The modern, liberal assumption is the very opposite of that. It is the essentially optimistic idea that, if only we sort things out properly, we are fine."

Could be said much simplier and more accurately as:

- The ancient assumption is the pessimistic one that the human condition is essentially disastrous and we are incapable of saving ourselves. The modern, liberal assumption is the very opposite of that. It is the essentially optimistic idea that we can, we must save ourselves.
4 posted on 12/13/2003 1:47:46 AM PST by DugwayDuke
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Well, LIBERALS want everyone to depend on them and worship them.

***Conservatives who think progressives are misinformed idealists will forever be blind-sided by the malice of the left-by the cynicism of those who pride themselves on principle, by the viciousness of those who champion sensitivity, by the intolerance of those who call themselves liberal, and by the ruthless disregard for the well-being of the downtrodden by those who preen themselves as social saints.

Conservatives are caught by surprise because they see progressives as merely misguided, when in fact they are fundamentally misdirected. They are the messianists of a religious faith. But it is a false faith and a self-serving religion. Since the redeemed future that justifies their existence and rationalizes their hypocrisy can never be realized, what really motivates progressives is a modern idolatry: their limitless passion for the continuance of Them. *** Source

5 posted on 12/13/2003 1:55:39 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Good Find!!!!

Sick and Can't sleep bump.
6 posted on 12/13/2003 2:05:40 AM PST by Louisiana
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To: Louisiana
Hang in there and give thanks you're sick in the U.S.A!
7 posted on 12/13/2003 2:11:51 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Great find. Thanks.
8 posted on 12/13/2003 3:10:37 AM PST by KeyWest
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Bump!
9 posted on 12/13/2003 3:30:31 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I'll add my thanks CW!
10 posted on 12/13/2003 4:12:35 AM PST by Molly Pitcher
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LOL! This liberal is coming around..."This praying [deleted] could be working!?!??" [shrug]
11 posted on 12/13/2003 4:40:00 AM PST by Ff--150 (that we through His poverty might be rich)
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Bump!
12 posted on 12/13/2003 5:52:27 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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is prayerlessness debilitating?

Absolutely. Prayer should be as natural and frequent as breathing.

13 posted on 12/13/2003 5:58:59 AM PST by mombonn (¡Viva Bush/Cheney!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
As my brother lost his battle with ALS Thursday afternoon, I continued in prayer. However, later that evening I did pour myself a single shot of cognac to toast in his memory.
God Bless Dave!
14 posted on 12/13/2003 6:02:44 AM PST by G Larry ($10K gifts to John Thune before he announces!)
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To: mombonn
Bump!
15 posted on 12/13/2003 6:20:20 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: G Larry
I'm sure both were helpful. We should celebrate a good life.
16 posted on 12/13/2003 6:21:37 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Interesting read. I am not sure the author is capable of distinguishing the difference between the religious and the spiritual. But he/she is not alone I fear.
17 posted on 12/13/2003 6:41:16 AM PST by ImpBill ("America! ... Where are you now?")
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Bump!
18 posted on 12/13/2003 7:19:30 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
what marks the modern sensibility. The American religious Right hasn't made that shift,

They saved the best bigotry for last. By this construction, the US religious right (the religious Left is not acknowledged to exist by European sophisticates) does not share a modern reality. They are something else, something less than modern.

19 posted on 12/13/2003 7:32:18 AM PST by witnesstothefall
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To: TEXOKIE
ping...article of interest
20 posted on 12/13/2003 7:34:05 AM PST by VOA
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