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US Bases in Germany will be closed
Die Welt am Sonntag | 12-13-2003 | Americanbychoice

Posted on 12/13/2003 8:49:36 AM PST by americanbychoice

Minister of Defense, Peter Struck has announced the closing of military bases and a decrease of American Soldiers in Germany. Their State Departement, Defence Ministry and American representatives are building a "Work group", announced Struck to Die Welt am Sonntag. After that,the American Secretary of Defense and Congress will decide in the Spring.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Germany; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: militarybases
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To: Teacher317
as we stayed and protected them they became lovers of the peace movement. they have not yet had to fight for their freedom. they will learn soon enough.
21 posted on 12/13/2003 9:09:33 AM PST by q_an_a
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To: meenie
A resurgescence of German militarism? Please.
22 posted on 12/13/2003 9:14:59 AM PST by nathanbedford
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To: meenie
The defense of Europe was part of our strategy of keeping a wary eye on the Germans and preventing aresurgence of their militarism.

I don't want to get in a tiff here, but Versailles and the League of Nations were intended to contain German militarism. That was after WWI.

After WWII, there was no Germany left to speak of, and our defense of Europe was against Soviet tanks.

23 posted on 12/13/2003 9:15:13 AM PST by witnesstothefall
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To: meenie
keeping a wary eye on the Germans and preventing a resurgence of their militarism

LOL. The Germans would not do anything that might interfere with urlaub machen. (vacationing). The Germany of today is not your father's Germany.

Germany is toast. The Koran will be required reading inside of ten years and Sharia is not long after that.

24 posted on 12/13/2003 9:18:17 AM PST by riri
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To: americanbychoice
Excellent move. Its time we shifted our weight further South and East. Also, it's long past time we left the rotting innards of old Europe, and moved to where our presence is appreciated.

If they don't want to be on our side, that's perfectly OK. I think we are politely disentangling ourselves from the situation, and relocating.

It's an interesting position on their part. One one hand, they're acting like we're this bloodthirsty, gunslinging group of thugs. On the other, they're terrified of the idea that we may actually leave their country. Something's not adding up.

25 posted on 12/13/2003 9:19:30 AM PST by Steel Wolf (There's a fine line between fishing and just standing on the shore like an idiot.)
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To: americanbychoice
The Euroweenies are going to be hit with a double whammy. Part I: They will have to spend a larger part of their own budget for self defense. Part II: The United States is not going to let them earn money from construction projects in Iraq, and that won't be good for the EURO! So take THAT "Sorry Ass" Soros! Go ahead and speculate on the EURO against the dollar, GO AHEAD and make President Bush's day!
26 posted on 12/13/2003 9:27:59 AM PST by Enterprise
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To: yankeedame
My analogy would be more on the lines about not uh, "soiling" your mess kit.
27 posted on 12/13/2003 9:30:43 AM PST by Enterprise
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To: americanbychoice
Any number of nations would welcome our troops...next door in the Czech Republic or Poland would do fine.

This may be a wake up call for Germans to get their act totgether. Joschka Fischer (Baader Meinhof defense attorney) and his crony Schroeder need to go!

28 posted on 12/13/2003 9:30:58 AM PST by eleni121
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
I vote for new American bases in Poland.

Me too!
29 posted on 12/13/2003 9:33:03 AM PST by demkicker
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To: americanbychoice
About time.
30 posted on 12/13/2003 9:34:24 AM PST by dts32041 (No politician who would put me in jail for criticizing them will ever get my vote. Ever.)
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To: meenie
Two problems. Allies are getting pretty scarce unless we can buy their support. The defense of Europe was part of our strategy of keeping a wary eye on the Germans and preventing a resurgence of their militarism.

1. Allies in Europe include Britian, Spain, Poland, and Italy, with Russia leaning our direction because of a common enemy. Opposition is led primarily by France, Germany and Belgium.

2. Why should we care if Germany did decide to liberate territory occupied by France?

31 posted on 12/13/2003 9:50:29 AM PST by PAR35
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To: riri
The Krouts will kill 2 birds with one stone and just let the Jihadists take over our former bases as terror academies.
32 posted on 12/13/2003 9:50:59 AM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: meenie
German militarism is dead. The Germans have lost their pride and their spines because they rely on their socialist government from the cradle to the grave.

They aren't going to be buying panzers and upgrading their luftwaffe with the massive social spending necessary to keep their society in line.
33 posted on 12/13/2003 10:00:28 AM PST by montomike (montomike)
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To: Steel Wolf
Excellent move. Its time we shifted our weight further South and East.

Does anybody know how many soldiers this will free up? Many from Germany were already moved to Iraq.

34 posted on 12/13/2003 10:02:04 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: MizSterious; rebdov; Nix 2; green lantern; BeOSUser; Brad's Gramma; dreadme; Turk2; keri; ...
Europe-list

If people want on or off this list, please let me know.

35 posted on 12/13/2003 10:02:31 AM PST by knighthawk (And for the name of peace, we will prevail)
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To: americanbychoice
Goodbye and good riddance. What a waste of our personnel. Let's go help some nations that are not ingrates.
36 posted on 12/13/2003 10:03:49 AM PST by Beck_isright (This tag line edited by the 9th Circuit Court due to offensive political commentary)
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To: americanbychoice
Did they give a time frame on this?
37 posted on 12/13/2003 10:04:23 AM PST by armymarinemom (My Son Liberated the Honor Roll Students in Iraq)
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To: meenie
Allies are getting pretty scarce unless we can buy their support.

It's our enemies who are usually bought and paid for.

38 posted on 12/13/2003 10:05:24 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: demkicker
Only problem I see is the cost of troop infrastructure. Whole installations built to American standards from the road surfaces and up then the costs of of the logistics. It will be staggering.

OTOH the quarters in Europe are in much better condition than in CONUS.

39 posted on 12/13/2003 10:06:04 AM PST by FRMAG
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To: eleni121
I recall a few weeks back that we were in negotiaton with Bulgaria over establishing bases there.
40 posted on 12/13/2003 10:08:13 AM PST by Rebelbase
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