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1 posted on 12/13/2003 11:54:18 PM PST by DoctorZIn
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Join Us At Today's Iranian Alert Thread – The Most Underreported Story Of The Year!

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2 posted on 12/13/2003 11:58:08 PM PST by DoctorZIn (Until they are free, we shall all be Iranians!)
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SADDAM'S BEEN ARRESTED
6 posted on 12/14/2003 4:55:32 AM PST by nuconvert
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7 posted on 12/14/2003 5:16:49 AM PST by nuconvert
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Will the Saddam capture effect events in Iran?
8 posted on 12/14/2003 5:18:56 AM PST by HoustonCurmudgeon (PEACE - Through Superior Firepower)
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11 posted on 12/14/2003 6:54:01 AM PST by nuconvert
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PRESIDENT BUSH to ADDRESS NATION AT NOON, EST
12 posted on 12/14/2003 6:57:27 AM PST by nuconvert
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U.S. forces capture Saddam Hussein at remote farmhouse near Tikrit, Iraq [DoD]
DoD ^ | Dec. 14, 2003


Posted on 12/14/2003 6:43:44 AM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl

SADDAM CAPTURED
Troops from the 4th Infantry Division's 1st Brigade Combat Team captured former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein without incident Dec. 13. Saddam was found hiding in a storehouse at a remote farmhouse near Tikrit, Iraq.


U.S. forces capture Saddam Hussein at remote farmhouse near Tikrit, Iraq

WASHINGTON, Dec. 14, 2003 -- “We got him.” U.S. Ambassador L. Paul Bremer II announced in Baghdad, Iraq, at about 7 a.m. this morning. “Saddam Hussein was captured Saturday, Dec. 13, at about 8:30 p.m. local time, in a cellar in the town of Adwar, which is about 15 kilometers south of Tikrit.”

“This is a great day in Iraq’s history,’ Bremer said to the Iraqi people. “For decades, hundreds of thousands of you suffered at the hands of this cruel man. For decades Saddam Hussein divided you citizens against each other. For decades he threatened and attacked your neighbors. Those days are over forever.

“Now it is time to look to the future – to your future of hope, to a future of reconciliation. Iraq’s future, your future, has never been more full of hope.
"The tyrant is a prisoner. The economy is moving forward. You have before the prospect of a sovereign government in a few months.

“With the arrest of Saddam Hussein, there is a new opportunity for the members of the former regime, whether military or civilian to end their bitter opposition. Let them now come forward in a spirit of reconciliation and hope, lay down their arms and join you, their fellow citizens, in the task of building the new Iraq.


“Now is the time for all Iraqis, Arabs and Kurds, Sunnis and Shia, Christian and Turkimen, to build a prosperous, democratic Iraq at peace with itself and with its neighbors.”


Related American Forces Press Article:
Sanchez credits Iraqi cooperation with making precise coalition strikes possible


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1040102/posts
13 posted on 12/14/2003 7:06:08 AM PST by nuconvert
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Saddam captured alive by US forces in hometown BAGHDAD, Dec 14, (AFP) - Ousted Iraqi president Saddam Hussein has been captured in a raid by US forces backed by Kurdish fighters in his northern hometown of Tikrit, various Iraqi officials reported. Britain's Press Association reported that Prime Minister Tony Blair confirmed the arrest of Saddam. There was no official US confirmation of the reports but they were carried extensively by US media and celebratory gunfire echoed across Baghdad. Kurdish officials were the first to report that the elusive Saddam had been captured in Tikrit, eight months after he was chased from power by US-led forces. Other Iraqi officials later echoed the report. The head of Iraq US-installed interim Governing Council Abdel Aziz al-Hakim confirmed the arrest during a visit to Madrid. Another Governing Council member, Nassir Chaderchi, told the BBC radio's Arabic service that US overseer Paul Bremer had confirmed the capture of Saddam. But a Pentagon spokeswoman in Washington would not comment. "Bremer called us to confirm it (Saddam's capture) and we are all celebrating here," Chaderchi told the radio, adding that a news conference would be held soon in Baghdad. Although US forces had succeeded in capturing many of the most-wanted officials from Saddam's regime, and in killing his two sons, Saddam had remained at large and become a symbol for a persistent anti-US resistance. A senior official from the Kurdish PUK said in the northern town of Suleimaniya that the arrest of Saddam was a joint operation. "Kurdish special forces of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK) led by Qusrat Rassul Ali along with American special forces after receiving information that Saddam was hiding in a house in Tikrit carried out an operation and arrested Saddam Hussein," he said. The reports that Saddam could have been captured came as a deadly bomb attack underlined the instability that has prevailed in the war-shattered country since he was overthrown. Eighteen people were killed, including 16 policemen and a seven-year-old girl, and 29 wounded Sunday at a police station in the heart of the rebel region of western Iraq. The US military said it was a car bomb, but residents insisted it was a rocket attack. Sixteen policemen and two civilians, including the girl, were killed in the blast, said a police lieutenant at Ramadi general hospital where the casualties were taken. Hospital director Qusay Abdullah said the hospital had so far received 16 bodies including that of the girl. Among 29 wounded, five were in a serious condition, he added. The casualties were rushed from Khaldiyah police station to Ramadi, 20 kilometres (12 miles) to the west and 100 kilometres (60 miles) from Baghdad. "An explosion went off near the gate of the station," police lieutenant Faiz Mohammad Motab told AFP. "It killed 17 and wounded 30 policemen, including senior officers and the ranks," he said. "There's a big hole outside the gate about three or four metres (yards) across and more than two metres deep, and the outside wall was knocked down. Hamid Adel al-Dulaimi, who lives opposite the station, said his mother lost an arm in the blast and insisted it was a rocket. "Look at the debris from the rocket," added Hamid Mekhlef, 22. Residents were hostile to foreigners both at the blast site and the hospital where one warned an AFP correspondent to leave, charging the truth of the rocket attack would never be told. The blast left a charred wreck of a car and destroyed two other cars, AFP corresponents at the scene said. US armoured vehicles and more than 100 troops blocked off the area and two tanks parked on the main road while two helicopters hovered overhead. "There were no coalition casualties," the military spokesman said, adding that a US military quick reaction force had been sent to the town situated between the rebel cities of Ramadi and Fallujah where ousted president Saddam Hussein still commands loyalty. On September 15, the police chief of Khaldiyah, Colonel Khdayyir Ali Mukhlif, was killed when three assailants opened fire at his car. The blast came a day after the US military commander in Iraq, Lieutenant General Ricardo Sanchez said attacks on coalition soldiers had fallen to around 20 per day. http://www.iranmania.com/News/ArticleView/viewprintablearticle.asp
14 posted on 12/14/2003 7:19:35 AM PST by nuconvert
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World Leaders Thrilled at Saddam's Capture

Sunday, December 14, 2003

LONDON — World leaders including the Iraq war's most prominent opponents welcomed Saddam Hussein's capture, saying it brought a long-awaited end to the career of a brutal dictator and could mark the beginning of peace in Iraq.

The U.S. military announced that a bearded Saddam was detained without resistance in a hole on a farm near his hometown of Tikrit (search), ending one of the most intense manhunts in history.

"Where his rule meant terror and division and brutality, let his capture bring about unity, reconciliation and peace," Prime Minister Tony Blair (search) said. "Saddam is gone from power. He won't be coming back, that the Iraqi people now know and it is they who will decide his fate."

Blair braved intense domestic opposition to support the U.S.-led war that ousted Saddam in April.

Iraq's interim government has established a special tribunal to try Saddam and other members of his regime for genocide, war crimes and crimes against humanity.

The United States still hasn't decided what to do with Saddam, though Blair said Saddam could be "tried in Iraqi courts for his crimes against the Iraqi people." Ahmad Chalabi (search), a member of Iraq's Governing Council, said Saddam would be tried.

In Yemen, Mohammed Abdel Qader Mohammadi, 50, said he was surprised Saddam didn't fight his capture. "I expected him to resist or commit suicide before falling into American hands. He disappointed a lot of us, he's a coward."

The government of Jordan said Sunday it hoped that Saddam's capture would contribute to the dawning of a new era and help the Iraqi people restore law and order in their in their war-ravaged country.

"What the Jordanian government cares about is the safety and security of the Iraqi people and the restoration of political stability in that brotherly Arab nation," Asma Khader, a state minister and the government spokeswoman, told The Associated Press.

In downtown Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, Ibrahim al-Khodir, 37, said Saddam should be put to death.

"This should have happened a long time ago," al-Khodir said. "Such a ruthless dictator and criminal should get the death penalty and he should be executed in front of the Iraqi people."

Iraq's war crimes tribunal would cover crimes committed from July 17, 1968 — the day Saddam's Baath Party came to power — until May 1, 2003 — the day President Bush declared major hostilities over. Saddam became president in 1979 but wielded vast influence starting from the early 1970s.

The Spanish government, another supporter of the war, also hailed the news.

"The time has come for him to pay for his crimes," said Spanish Prime Minister Jose Maria Aznar, an outspoken supporter of the war to oust Saddam, despite widespread opposition at home.

"He is responsible for the killing of millions of people over the last 30 years. He is a threat to his people and to the entire world," Aznar said.

France, which has had a rocky relationship with the United States since it led the opposition to the war, said the capture would help stabilize the country and lead to its sovereignty.

"It's a major event that should strongly contribute to democracy and stability in Iraq and allow the Iraqis to master their destiny," French President Jacques Chirac said in a statement.

U.N. spokesman Farhan Haq said he hoped Saddam's capture would help restore stability.

The United Nations withdrew its international staff in Iraq after the Aug. 19 bombing of the U.N. headquarters in Baghdad, which killed 22 people.

"We are hoping for any events on the ground in Iraq to help stabilize the situation there and to ensure and help with its long-term security," Haq said.

German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder, another foe of the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq, congratulated President Bush.

"With much happiness I learned about the arrest of Saddam Hussein," Schroeder wrote in a letter to Bush released by the German government. "I congratulate you on this successful action."

Japan, Australia and other countries also were quick to applaud the news of Saddam's capture, as a video showing a bearded Saddam being examined by a doctor was broadcast on news channels.

News of Saddam's capture reverberated among the 500 delegates and other dignitaries at the opening session of Afghanistan's historic constitutional council, being held in Kabul.

Afghan Interior Minister Ali Ahmad Jalali said the arrest would help improve security in Afghanistan by dampening the ability of militant groups to recruit fighters here.

"What happens in Iraq is also something to do with the situation in Afghanistan. Since the war in Iraq, the terrorist organizations have tried to open a new front in Afghanistan, so any failure of terrorism in Iraq is going to effect the situation in Afghanistan," Jalali told The Associated Press.

Others, like Poland and South Korea, urged caution, warning the arrest could spark retaliation from Saddam's supporters.

In San Diego, Alan Zangana, a 48-year-old Kurd who fled Iraq in 1981, said the phone at his Chula Vista home started ringing early Sunday with people sharing the reports that Saddam had been captured.

"I have been waiting for this for the last 35 years," said Zangana, director of Kurdish Human Rights Watch in the San Diego suburb of El Cajon.

Saddam instituted a policy of genocide against the Kurds and Zangana said oppression in his oil-rich hometown of Kirkuk was severe.

"Nobody is going to be happy today like the Kurds," Zangana said. "He killed a lot of us."

http://www.foxnews.com/printer_friendly_story/0,3566,105709,00.html
16 posted on 12/14/2003 7:32:38 AM PST by nuconvert
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Arab Americans in Southeastern Mich. Celebrate Saddam's Capture
ap ^ | 12-14-03

Posted on 12/14/2003 7:32:33 AM PST by Dan from Michigan

The Associated Press
12/14/2003, 9:42 a.m. ET

DEARBORN, Mich. (AP) — Alaa Alkhafaji dashed out from behind the counter and turned up the sound on the television.

A reporter on Al Jazeera then confirmed what Alkhafaji was just told: Saddam Hussein had been captured in Iraq.

Alkhafaji, his eyes still wide with amazement, began dialing the telephone at the Alzawraa Cafe in Dearborn. He wanted to break the news to everybody he knew.

Elsewhere in this heavily Arab Detroit suburb, residents took to the streets in celebration as they did eight months earlier when a statue of Saddam was toppled in Baghdad.

As snow fell around them Sunday morning, dozens jumped around, banged drums and waved Iraqi and American flags.

In Dearborn, a city of about 100,000, one-third identify themselves as Arab or Arab-American. Southeastern Michigan has about 300,000 Arab-Americans.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1040119/posts
17 posted on 12/14/2003 7:40:14 AM PST by nuconvert
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Without Firing a Shot, U.S. Forces Detain Ex-Iraqi Leader

NYTimes
By EDWARD WONG
and KIRK SEMPLE
Published: December 14, 2003

BAGHDAD, Iraq, Dec. 14 - Saddam Hussein, the deposed Iraqi leader, was captured in a raid on a farm house near Tikrit on Saturday night, American military officials confirmed today.

``We got him,'' American administrator L. Paul Bremer III said at a news conference here. Officials said they used DNA tests to confirm Mr. Hussein's identity.

Coalition troops discovered Mr. Hussein hiding in a hole below the farm house, located in the town of Adwar, 10 miles from Tikrit.

Military authorities said that Mr. Hussein had put up no resistance and that not one shot had been fired in the operation.

Finding Mr. Hussein solved one of the great mysteries that tormented the American-led occupation force in Iraq: whether he was still alive and, if so, where he was hiding.

Some senior Bush administration officials have suspected that Mr. Hussein was still alive and inspiring, if not leading, the guerrilla-style insurgency that has left more than 190 American soldiers dead since President Bush declared an end to major combat operations on May. 1.

Since April, when coalition forces pushed into Baghdad and declared the start of the occupation, American-led troops have tried to wipe away all vestiges of the old government in part by capturing or killing many of Mr. Hussein's former advisers and associates.

But their biggest target, Mr. Hussein himself, continued to evade coalition forces even as he broadcast audio messages intended to rally his loyalists while, seemingly, taunt the occupiers.

Mr. Bremer appealed to insurgents loyal to Mr. Hussein to give up the fight today. ``With the arrest of Saddam Hussein, there is a new opportunity for the members of the former regime, whether military or civilian, to end their bitter opposition,'' he said in a televised news conference in Baghdad. ``Let them now come forward in a spirit of reconciliation and hope, lay down their arms, and join you, their fellow citizens, in the task of building the new Iraq.''

British Prime Minister Tony Blair welcomed Mr. Hussein's capture as an opportunity for national reconciliation in Iraq.

``Where his rule meant terror and division and brutality, let his capture bring about unity, reconciliation and peace between all the people in Iraq,'' Mr. Blair said. ``Saddam is gone from power. He won't be coming back. That the Iraqi people now know.'' He called the cause of Mr. Hussein's supporters ``futile.''

The White House said that President Bush will make a public statement at noon Eastern time.

At the news conference today announcing Mr. Hussein's capture, American officials aired a video showing Mr. Hussein, with a scruffy white beard and wild, curly hair, being examined by a doctor.

Mr. Hussein was in a six-to-eight-foot-deep ``spider hole'' that had been camouflaged with bricks and dirt, Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez said at the news conference.

``The captive has been talkative and is being cooperative,'' General Sanchez said. Coalition troops captured two other Iraqis in the raid and seized two AK-47 assault rifles, a pistol and $750,000 in $100 bills, General Sanchez said.

He described Mr. Hussein's demeanor during the arrest, saying he seemed ``a tired man - also, I think, a man resigned.''

Officials said Mr. Hussein was being held at an undisclosed location and that American authorities had yet to decide whether to hand him over to the Iraqis for trial. Iraqi officials want him to stand trial before a war crimes tribunal created last week.

Mr. Blair said that ultimately, the Iraqis will determine how Mr. Hussein will be tried. ``It is they who will decide his fate.''

As news of the capture spread, celebratory gunfire broke out all over Baghdad, and large crowds poured into the streets, especially along commercial strips like those in the Karada neighborhood. People were speaking ecstatically of the capture, hugging and shaking one another's hands.

Earlier in the day, rumors of the capture sent people streaming into the streets of Kirkuk, a northern Iraqi city, firing guns in the air in celebration, The Associated Press reported.

``We are celebrating like it's a wedding,'' a resident, Mustapha Sheriff, told the news agency. ``We are finally rid of that criminal.''

Another resident, Ali Al-Bashiri, said: ``This is the joy of a lifetime. I am speaking on behalf of all the people that suffered under his rule.''

But in Ramadi, a town west of Baghdad that has served as a loyal support base for Mr. Hussein, people had not heard about the capture by early afternoon. A feeling of anger was building up against the American occupiers, triggered by a car bomb this morning outside the police station in the nearby town of Khalidiya.

The bomb went off at 8:30 a.m. this morning, killing at least 21 people, mostly police officers, and wounding at least 33, according to military and hospital officials. Men standing at the scene and at the hospital blamed American forces for the blast, even though it was clear that the bomb was targeting Iraqi police working with the Americans.

Administration officials have said that Mr. Hussein's survival, despite the American hunt and a $25 million reward for information leading to his capture or proof of his death, appears to have been a motivating factor in the armed opposition against American forces.

The whereabouts of Mr. Hussein had been a mystery since at least March 20, when the United States initiated the war in Iraq with a strike by cruise missiles and bombs on an installation in Baghdad where the top Iraqi leadership was believed to be hiding.

On April 7, three days after Iraqi television broadcast two videotapes of Mr. Hussein taped on an unknown date, the United States made a second attempt to kill Mr. Hussein by bombing a building in the Mansour district of Baghdad, where intelligence sources said the Iraqi leadership had gathered.

Those two strikes prompted some optimism at the White House that Mr. Hussein and his two oldest sons had been killed. But with the failure of investigators to find physical evidence of Mr. Hussein at the two sites, combined with testimony of senior Iraqi officials in American custody who said the Iraqi leader had not been at those locations, American intelligence agencies concluded that they probably missed their target.

This view was further strengthened by the broadcast in the past several weeks of at least four audiotapes with a voice purporting to be that of Mr. Hussein. One of them may have inadvertently dampened the skepticism about his sons' deaths by calling on Iraqis to mourn them.

American officials said the most compelling indications that Mr. Hussein was still alive were the intercepted communications among fugitive members of the paramilitary Saddam Fedayeen and the Iraqi intelligence service discussing the importance of protecting his life.

American officials had hoped they were getting closer to determining the whereabouts of Mr. Hussein when troops killed his sons, Qusay and Uday, on July 22 in a four-hour gunbattle with American troops in a hideout in the northern city of Mosul. But an initial burst of confidence gradually faded away and, as the bloody weeks dragged on, and American troops were unable to find either Mr. Hussein or conclusive proof that he had been developing weapons of mass destruction, the White House and the Pentagon tried to shift attention from those failures by arguing that the most important thing was that Mr. Hussein had been removed from power.

Still, even the American administrator in Iraq, L. Paul Bremer III, acknowledged several months ago that the coalition's inability to capture him or recover his body was helping to fuel the resistance movement.

``I would obviously prefer that we had clear evidence that Saddam is dead or that we had him alive in our custody,'' Mr. Bremer said. ``It does make a difference because it allows the Baathists to go around in the bazaars and in the villages, as they are doing, saying: `Saddam is alive, and he's going to come back. And we're going to come back.'''

Edward Wong provided reporting from Baghdad and Kirk Semple provided reporting from New York for this article.

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/14/international/middleeast/14WIRE-HUSSEIN.html
18 posted on 12/14/2003 7:40:51 AM PST by DoctorZIn (Until they are free, we shall all be Iranians!)
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Saddam Captured Newsconference occuring NOW [Live Thread]

CNN ^ | 12-14-03 | CNN
Posted on 12/14/2003 3:19:27 AM PST by bonesmccoy

CNN anchor now reports news conference due at 4 AM PST/7AM EST

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1040052/posts
19 posted on 12/14/2003 7:47:43 AM PST by DoctorZIn (Until they are free, we shall all be Iranians!)
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Will Chirac Fight Facism?

December 14, 2003
New York Post
Amir Taheri

Anyone following the French media these days might get the impression that we are heading for "a war of values" and a "clash of civilizations" over what is known as "le foulard islamique."

The controversial foulard is a special headgear, inspired by the hood worn by Capuchin monks, and designed to cover a woman's head, leaving only her face exposed.

The issue has divided French society across religious and cultural fault-lines that few would have acknowledged a decade ago: Should the government forbid girls from wearing the foulard at state schools?

A special committee, set up by President Jacques Chirac last summer, has just submitted its report on the subject, suggesting that the foulard be banned from public schools along with other "ostensible signs of religion" such as Jewish skullcaps and large crosses. The president is scheduled to unveil his conclusions in a televised address this week.

Some secularists insist that the foulard should be banned from schools, hospitals and other public institutions by a special law because it represents "an ostentatious religious sign" in spaces that should remain neutral as far as religion is concerned. Others believe that an outright ban could be seen as an attack on individual beliefs, and force girls who wish to wear the foulard to switch to private Koranic schools.

All this may well be a result of a misunderstanding. To start with, the term "foulard islamique" is inaccurate because it assumes that the controversial headscarf is an article of Islamic faith, which it emphatically is not. It is a political symbol shared by several radical movements that, each in its own way, tries to transform Islam from a religion into a political ideology.

One could describe these movements as Islamist, but not Islamic. A new word has been coined in Arabic to describe them: Mutuasslim. Its equivalent in Persian is Islamgara.

The foulard should be seen as a political symbol in the same way as Nazi casquettes, Mao Zedong caps and Che Guevara berets were in their times. It has never been sanctioned by any Islamic religious authority and is worn by a tiny minority of Muslim women.

It was first created in Lebanon in 1975 by Imam Mussa Sadr, an Iranian mullah who had become leader of the Shi'ite community there. Sadr wanted the foulard to mark out Shi'ite girls so that they would not be molested by the Palestinians who controlled southern Lebanon at the time.

In 1982, the Lebanese-designed headgear was imposed by law on all Iranian girls and women, including non-Muslims, aged six years and above. Thus, Iranian Christian, Jewish and Zoroastrian women are also forced to wear a headgear that is supposed to be an Islamic symbol. The Khomeinist claim is that women's hair has to be covered because it emits rays that turn men "wild with sex."

From the mid 1980s, the foulard appeared in North Africa and Egypt before moving east to the Persian Gulf, the Indo-Pakistani Subcontinent and Southeast Asia. It made its first appearance in France in 1984, brought in by Iranian Mujahedin asylum seekers. Today, thousands of women, especially new converts, wear it in Europe and North America.

That the foulard did not exist before 1975 is easy to verify. Muslim women could refer to their family albums to see that none of their female parents and ancestors ever wore it.

Megawati Sukarnoputri, President of Indonesia, the world's largest Muslim nation, does not wear it. Nor does Khalidah Zia, prime minister of Bangladesh, the world's second most populous country. Shirin Ebadi, the first Muslim woman to win the Nobel Peace Prize, does not wear it, except inside Iran - where she would go to jail if she did not.

That the foulard is a political invention can be ascertained in two other ways. First, there is the Iranian law of 1982 that specifies the shape, size and even the "authorized" colors of the headscarf.

Second, the various Islamist movements have developed specific color schemes to assert their identity. The Khomeinists wear dark blue or brown. The Sunni Salafis, who sympathize with al Qaeda and the Taliban, prefer black. Supporters of Abu-Sayyaf and other Southeast Asian radical groups wear white or yellow. Supporters of Palestinian radical groups don checkered foulards.

Islamism is a totalitarian ideology like Communism and Fascism. And like them it loves uniforms. While it forces, or brainwashes, women into wearing the foulard, it also presses men to grow beards as an advertisement of piety.

Like people of other faiths and cultures, Muslim men and women often covered their heads. But the headgear used had no political significance and reflected local cultural, tribal and folkloric traditions. No one ever claimed that donning any particular headgear, whether for men or women, was a religious duty.

In any case Islam, with its rich tradition of iconoclasm, is not a religion of symbols. It also abhors any advertisement of piety which, known as tajallow (showing off), is regarded as a sin.

By trying to turn the issue of the foulard into a duel between Islam and secularism, the French may be missing the point. The real problem is posed by organized and well-funded efforts of Fascist groups to develop a form of apartheid in which Muslims in France, now numbering almost 6 million, will not be protected by the French political system and the laws that sustain it.

As things are, the foulard concerns a small number of Muslim women in France. The French Interior Ministry's latest report says that only an estimated 11,200, out of some 1.8 million Muslim schoolgirls, wore the "foulard" at schools last year.

The same report says that only 1,253 of those who wore the foulard were involved in incidents provoked by their attempts to force other girls to cover their heads.

A survey by a group of Muslim women in the Paris suburb of Courneuve last May shows that 77 per cent of the girls who wore the foulard did so because they feared that if they did not they would be beaten up or even disfigured by Islamist vigilantes. Girls refusing the foulard are often followed by gangs of youth shouting "putain" (whore) at them.

In some suburbs, the Islamist Fascists have appointed an Emir al-Momeneen (Commander of the Faithful) and set up armed units that the French state fears to confront. These groups tell Muslims not to allow their womenfolk to be examined by male doctors, not to donate blood or receive blood from Jews or Christians, and to prevent girls from studying science, swimming or taking part in group sports.

What the French state needs to do is to protect Muslims on its territory, especially women, against the Fascists who are setting up "emirates" around major French cities, notably Paris.

What France is witnessing is not a clash of civilization between Islam and the West. It is a clash between a new form of fascism and democracy. Islamism must be exposed and opposed politically. To give it any religious credentials is not only unjust but also bad politics.

E-mail: amirtaheri@benadorassociates.com

http://www.nypost.com/postopinion/opedcolumnists/13317.htm
20 posted on 12/14/2003 7:50:00 AM PST by DoctorZIn (Until they are free, we shall all be Iranians!)
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After 2 Visits to the Hangman, More Horror for Iran Dissident

December 14, 2003
The New York Times
Nazila Fathi

TEHRAN -- Ahmad Batebi, a student activist, ran so afoul of the government that he received a death sentence in 1997. It was never carried out, but he languished in jail until on one recent day he was given the luxury of a 20-day leave.

Things went well until, two days before he was to return to the Evin Prison to serve out his 15-year sentence, he was rearrested in November. He had met that day with the United Nations human rights envoy, Ambeyi Ligabo.

A few days later, Mr. Batebi "had a weak voice and said that he could not talk much," said his father, Mohammad Baqer Batebi, who spoke with him by phone. "He did not know where he was taken but said he was in the custody of the judiciary."

Mr. Batebi became a symbol of student struggle for democracy after his picture, which showed him raising the blood-stained T-shirt of a fallen comrade in the student demonstrations of 1997, appeared in the Western media. He was charged with rallying against the government and received the death sentence, which was later reduced to a jail term.

"There is not a second that I don't wish I was a free man," Mr. Batebi said, sipping a milkshake in a cafe here before his rearrest. "Whether I want it or not, I am in prison as a representative of the student movement, and I will have to carry this burden as honorably as I can."

The tough days in prison have shattered him. At the cafe, he pulled out of his pocket a fistful of medicine that he needs to calm his jittery nerves. He has lost teeth and has hearing problems and bad vision because of the beatings of his face.

He has bad lungs, for which he blames his cell's location in the basement next to the main sewage pipe. Most prisoners are sick because of lack of air and the harsh smell of the chemicals used to kill the smell, he said. One of his cellmates, Akbar Mohammadi, had lung surgery.

The authorities at the prison summoned him twice to carry out the death sentence. "They told me to take off my clothes and wear a white dress," he said in the interview. "Every single bone was shaking in my body, and I could hear their sound," he said about the first time he felt the rope around his neck. He was reprieved, but the next time, they kept him on the stool for two hours before they announced that the execution had been postponed.

"Before I was jailed, I thought that the stories others told about their prison experiences were exaggerated," he said, referring to prison memoirs by other activists. "But I told only one-tenth of what happened to me."

For three years now, Mr. Batebi has been able to study sociology from prison, and can take exams at Payam-e-Nour University. "The condition is that I should not speak to any of the students," he said.

His joy in prison is a Spanish guitar, which he luckily found in the cultural section of the prison and learned to play.

Prison has turned Mr. Batebi, once very religious, into a secular person. "I read many books and saw different people in jail," he said. "I learned that I have to depend on myself and no other power to survive."

Despite the common feeling of disappointment toward President Mohammad Khatami, Mr. Batebi says he owes his life to him. "Thanks to him, there were at least a couple of free newspapers to write about Ahmad Batebi and force the authorities to throw away the death sentence," he said. "I would have certainly been executed years earlier."

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/14/international/middleeast/14IRAN.html?ex=1071982800&en=6242f363d5af5b89&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE
21 posted on 12/14/2003 7:51:17 AM PST by DoctorZIn (Until they are free, we shall all be Iranians!)
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Tomen to Pull Out of Japan-Iran Oil Talks

December 14, 2003
Reuters
Forbes.com

TOKYO -- Japanese trading house Tomen Corp has decided to pull out of a government-led consortium negotiating with Iran to develop the Azadegan oilfield, a Japanese newspaper said on Sunday.

The Asahi Shimbun daily said the departure of Tomen, which has strong ties with Iran, may affect the future of the talks, which have stalled due to concerns over Tehran's nuclear programme.

Kyodo news agency said on Friday, quoting officials in the Japanese group, that the negotiations could break down unless Tehran made concessions, adding that differences over contract terms remained wide.

Tomen is receiving support in rebuilding its debt-ridden business from Toyota Motor Corp. It may have given consideration to the possible effect on Toyota's U.S. business, in making the decision to give up the Azadegan talks, Asahi said.

Tomen and Japanese government officials could not be reached for further comment.

Asahi quoted a government source as saying that Tomen's decision would not affect the negotiations as the trading firm's interested was limited to the infrastructure business linked to the oil field.

The Japanese consortium had exclusive rights to negotiate a deal to develop Azadegan, one of the world's largest untapped oilfields, but it backed off under U.S. pressure regarding Iran's nuclear programme and lost exclusive rights in June.

The consortium, composed of Tomen, Japan Petroleum Exploration Co (JAPEX) and INPEX Corp, could be asked by Iran to agree in principle by December 15 to develop the oilfield, a Japanese source in Tehran close to the talks said on Thursday.

Resource-poor Japan has been caught between its desire to develop the oilfield and pressure from the United States, its main security ally.

The board of the U.N. nuclear watchdog, the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), strongly condemned Iran last month for an 18-year cover-up of sensitive nuclear research, including activities which could point to a weapons programme. Iran flatly denies any intention to build nuclear arms.

Iran stressed last Sunday that it was committed to signing an international agreement binding it to snap inspections of its nuclear facilities.

http://www.forbes.com/markets/newswire/2003/12/13/rtr1180265.html
22 posted on 12/14/2003 7:52:17 AM PST by DoctorZIn (Until they are free, we shall all be Iranians!)
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The following is posted for the attention of the Murdering Mullahs and their thugs who monitor FR!:

This scene will be coming soon to Iran unless you flee now!

23 posted on 12/14/2003 7:58:17 AM PST by Grampa Dave (George $orea$$ has owned and controlled the Rats for decades!)
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Don't miss this thread!

Terrorist Behind September 11 Strike was Trained by Saddam

25 posted on 12/14/2003 8:05:30 AM PST by TigersEye ("Where there is life there is hope!" - Terri Schiavo)
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Doctor Zin, below is another message for the murdering mullahs of Iran and their thugs who monitor FR.

Hey Mullahs don't believe what you see on ABCNNBCBS, read in the NY Slimes and hear from your rat buddies in Congress. Your buddy, $oddomite, paid attention to them. Look at what just happened to him!:


26 posted on 12/14/2003 8:06:00 AM PST by Grampa Dave (George $orea$$ has owned and controlled the Rats for decades!)
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Iran's Election Hopefuls Register for Crunch Vote

Sat December 13, 2003 08:26 AM ET
By Christian Oliver

TEHRAN (Reuters) - Aspiring candidates began registering on Saturday to stand in Iran's parliamentary elections -- a vote that will test popular patience with the country's embattled reform movement.

Reformist President Mohammad Khatami has made the selection of candidates for the February 20 election a theme of speeches in recent weeks, calling on hard-liners not to axe hopefuls from his reformist camp through over-zealous screening.

Pro-reform politicians have voiced alarm that the unelected Guardian Council, a 12-member body dominated by conservative clerics, may exercise its power to veto scores of reformists wanting to contest the poll.

The Guardian Council has in the past vetoed potential candidates for a variety of reasons, including lack of commitment to the constitution, although it rarely gives a public explanation of its decisions.

Mohammad Reza Khatami, the President's younger brother and head of Iran's main reformist party, called for as many people as possible to stand to neutralize the conservatives.

"Younger people and women should enter the race to help turnout and their presence in parliament will help the democratic process," he told reporters.

Reformists fear their main group of supporters, the nation's youth, will stay at home on polling day to vent frustration at the reformist-dominated parliament's inability to overcome resistance from hard-liners who have stifled its bills.

"Very few young people will vote," said Mohammad, a 21-year-old computer programer. "These (MPs) have got to go, the economy is still bust."

Hard-liners have sought to take advantage of this sentiment, telling their supporters to turn out in droves.

The official IRNA news agency said candidates had one week to register for the poll with approved applicants to be announced on December 30.

Candidates, between 30 and 75 years old, must prove their allegiance to the Islamic republic's values, IRNA said. Barring factors range from drug addiction to sympathy for the Shah, toppled in the 1979 Islamic revolution.

YOUTH VOTE
Reformists allied to Khatami hold a majority in the 290-seat parliament but political analysts have said heavy vetting of candidates and growing voter apathy in the Islamic Republic could shift that balance.

Voter turnout fell to under 50 percent in municipal elections in February and was below 15 percent in most major cities, handing reformists their first electoral defeat since Khatami's shock presidential win in 1997.

Young voters, particularly students, have looked to reformists to not only ease the Islamic Republic's strict social restrictions but also overhaul the economy and create jobs. Many doubt unemployment is as low as the official rate of 16 percent.

About 70 percent of Iran's 66 million population are under 30. Iranians as young as 16 years old are eligible to vote.

One young engineer working for a foreign company said he was having second thoughts about staying at home on election day.

"I was going to abstain but now that is looking too dangerous," he said, adding that his abstention could usher in conservatives who would unravel the reformists' small gains.

Presidential elections come round again in 2005 but a big swing to the conservatives in parliament could allow hard-liners to remove some of Khatami's ministers.

(Additional reporting by Parisa Hafezi)

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=worldNews&storyID=3987249
27 posted on 12/14/2003 8:12:27 AM PST by DoctorZIn (Until they are free, we shall all be Iranians!)
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Iran's reformists fear election bid interference

ABC News

The main reformist party in Iran has expressed fears that conservatives will prevent them from taking part in parliamentary elections next February.

The comments come as the registration of would-be candidates begins.

Reformist leaders say they fear that a powerful conservative watchdog body, the Guardian Council, could veto their members' attempts to run for office.

The BBC reports the biggest of the reformist factions that currently dominate parliament, The Participation Front, has said it will take part in the race.

However, it reserves the right to pull out if too many of its entrants are disqualified.

At present much of the betting is that the reformists will do poorly at the polls, even if their candidates get that far.

They have got little to show in practical terms for their years in office, largely because their efforts to bring about change have been blocked by an entrenched hardline minority.

Many of the millions of Iranians who voted overwhelmingly for the reformists are now bitterly disillusioned.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/s1009664.htm
29 posted on 12/14/2003 8:24:13 AM PST by DoctorZIn (Until they are free, we shall all be Iranians!)
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