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New tribunal might be option for Saddam
AP | 12/14/03 | HAMZA HENDAWI

Posted on 12/14/2003 7:07:12 AM PST by kattracks

BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) — U.S. officials said they still haven't decided what to do with Saddam Hussein now that he's been captured, but one option is putting him before a special tribunal established just days ago. A member of Iraq's Governing Council said Saddam would face public trial.

Iraq's interim government established a special tribunal Wednesday to try top members of Saddam's government for genocide, war crimes and crimes against humanity. At the time, they said Saddam could be tried in absentia.

Lt. Gen. Richardo Sanchez said at a news conference Sunday that the U.S.-led coalition was still deciding what to do with Saddam.

"At this point, that has not been determined, we continue to process Saddam at this point in time and those issues will be resolved in the near future," Sanchez said.

Ahmad Chalabi, a member of Iraq's Governing Council, said Saddam would be tried.

"Saddam will stand a public trial so that the Iraqi people will know his crimes," Chalabi said on Al-Iraqiya, a Pentagon-funded TV station. "Saddam will be punished for those crimes."

Chalabi is a leading member of the U.S.-appointed council who has close links to the Bush administration.

The tribunal will cover crimes committed from July 17, 1968 — the day Saddam's Baath Party came to power — until May 1, 2003 — the day President Bush declared major hostilities over, said Abdel-Aziz al-Hakim, the current president of the Iraqi Governing Council. Saddam became president in 1979 but wielded vast influence starting from the early 1970s.

The tribunal will try cases stemming from mass executions of Iraqi Kurds in the 1980s, as well as the suppression of uprisings by Kurds and Shiite Muslims soon after the 1991 Gulf War.

Al-Hakim said it would also try cases committed against Iran — with which Iraq fought a bloody 1980-88 war — and against Kuwait, which Iraq invaded in 1990, sparking the Gulf War.

The first suspects brought to trial could include top officials of Saddam's government who appeared on the U.S. 55 most-wanted list.

Some of those are already in coalition custody, including former foreign minister Tariq Aziz, former vice president Taha Yassin Ramadan and Ali Hassan al-Majid, known as "Chemical Ali" for his role in chemical attacks on Kurds in the 1980s.

The coalition authority now holds at least 5,500 people in detention centers, but it isn't known how many of those are war crimes suspects.

The U.S. occupation authority suspended using the death penalty, and Iraqi officials have said they will decide whether to reinstate it when a transitional government assumes sovereignty as scheduled on July 1.

The trials would be open to the public, human rights groups and news media, suggesting they could be televised. Their work is not expected to begin for months.

The legal framework also draws on international law, including Rwanda's genocide tribunal and the legal code used to create the United Nations' International Criminal Court, a body the Bush administration opposes. Al-Hakim said it would also use the Geneva Conventions as a point of reference.

Prosecutors will use a growing cache of documents seized from the former regime. Evidence also will come from the excavation of some of the 270 mass graves in Iraq that are believed to hold at least 300,000 sets of remains.



TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: ageofliberty; greatnews; gulfwar2; gulfwarii; iraq; iraqaftermath; iraqijustice; saddam; saddamcaptured; saddamhussein; tikrit; topplesaddam; viceisclosed; warcrimestribunal

1 posted on 12/14/2003 7:07:12 AM PST by kattracks
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To: kattracks
I have a feeling that Saddam will wish he was not taken alive by the time the Iraqis get through with him.
2 posted on 12/14/2003 7:10:01 AM PST by sleeper-has-awakened
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To: kattracks
Don't send Hussein to The Hague. That kangaroo court would acquit Hussein just to embarrass the Bush administration.
3 posted on 12/14/2003 7:10:44 AM PST by Loyalist (Conservative Party of Canada: A truly progressive alliance!)
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To: kattracks
The trials would be open to the public, human rights groups and news media, suggesting they could be televised. Their work is not expected to begin for months.

A shame. Too bad they couldn't employ some of the same tactics Saddam had used on him directly.

4 posted on 12/14/2003 7:11:05 AM PST by zandtar (He who does not punish evil commands it to be done - Leonardo Da Vinci)
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To: kattracks
I can't begin to comprehend the evil this man has done to others and the emotional pain that has been inflicted to survivors. I pray that those who survived find a way to heal from this reign of terror.
5 posted on 12/14/2003 7:11:40 AM PST by nmh
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To: sleeper-has-awakened
I have a feeling that Saddam will wish he was not taken alive by the time the Iraqis get through with him.

I don't think so. The UN and the ACLU will step in and get him a parole.

8 posted on 12/14/2003 7:15:56 AM PST by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: kattracks

This is going to be very tricky. To be on the safe side, Saddam should face several trials. One in Iraq, and one Military tribunal in the USofA.

It would be a tragedy if for any under handed reason, pay off's, intimidation, he is set free in Iraq.
9 posted on 12/14/2003 7:17:22 AM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: Skyler Shegonee
Send him to Gitmo.

If it were up to me, I'd give him an HCL bath followed by a chipper chaser.

10 posted on 12/14/2003 7:18:07 AM PST by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: kattracks
U.S. officials said they still haven't decided what to do with Saddam Hussein now that he's been captured

Look for this to be the big Dem talking point. No plan! No plan! No plan! Waaaaaa!

BTW, I'm sure the administration knows exactly what they're going to do with him. He'll stay in U.S. custody throughout an Iraqi trial, and then he'll be hung.

11 posted on 12/14/2003 7:19:30 AM PST by Snake65 (Osama Bin Decomposing)
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To: Loyalist
Yes, you are correct. We wouldn't be that foolish.
12 posted on 12/14/2003 7:19:30 AM PST by ItisaReligionofPeace (I'm from the government and I'm here to help.)
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To: sleeper-has-awakened
Don't miss this thread!

Terrorist Behind September 11 Strike was Trained by Saddam

13 posted on 12/14/2003 7:22:16 AM PST by TigersEye ("Where there is life there is hope!" - Terri Schiavo)
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To: kattracks
Take him on a victory tour throughout Iraq where he is on display in a cage, to humiliate him and to show the Iraqi people that he has indeed been captured. Then, very publicly announce that at a certain date and time he will be released to the Iraqi people on top of the platform where that statue of him once stood.
14 posted on 12/14/2003 7:22:59 AM PST by Fair Paul
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To: Loyalist
Don't send Hussein to The Hague

Absolutely!

15 posted on 12/14/2003 7:23:11 AM PST by Howlin (Bush has stolen two things which Democrats believe they own by right: the presidency & the future)
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To: Cobra64
The UN and the ACLU will step in and get him a parole.

Thank God -- and George W. Bush -- that neither of those two "organzations" have anything to do with this.

16 posted on 12/14/2003 7:24:25 AM PST by Howlin (Bush has stolen two things which Democrats believe they own by right: the presidency & the future)
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To: kattracks
I would love nothing more than to see him tried and convicted before an Iraqi war crimes court, and see him publicly hanged on the exact spot where we pulled down that massive statue in April. THAT, folks, would be true justice.

}:-)4

17 posted on 12/14/2003 7:24:36 AM PST by Moose4 ("The road goes on forever, and the party never ends." --Robert Earl Keen)
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To: kattracks
Saddam Hussein should be tried by the Iraqi people, in their courts, but only when their new government is sufficiently strong to carry it out competently.
18 posted on 12/14/2003 7:27:05 AM PST by Kevin Curry
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To: kattracks
kofi's gonna want to be all over this...just imagine the howling that france and germany will do when they find that they can't host the 'trial.'

it's gonna be a liberal spinfest.

19 posted on 12/14/2003 7:30:18 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: Howlin
But what if "The Innocence Project" is called in: The DNA evidence might be challenged. ;^)
20 posted on 12/14/2003 7:30:25 AM PST by BenLurkin (Socialism is Slavery)
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To: BenLurkin
For all we know, Mark Geragos will take the case; that man *loves* face time!
21 posted on 12/14/2003 7:31:11 AM PST by Howlin (Bush has stolen two things which Democrats believe they own by right: the presidency & the future)
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To: kattracks
Wait till he gets the 'dream team' lawyers.

If he's from Tikrit, you must acquit."

22 posted on 12/14/2003 7:32:52 AM PST by BenLurkin (Socialism is Slavery)
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To: Howlin
We should just leave this up to the Iraqi people totally...but just ask one favor in return...question him, during his PUBLIC trail, about any assistance and communications he had with any current government leaders.

In particular France, Germany and Russia.

23 posted on 12/14/2003 7:34:16 AM PST by CWOJackson (President Bush is responsibile for cellulite...)
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To: Cobra64
The UN and the ACLU will step in and get him a parole.

He's probably counting on this and this is why he didn't go out fighting.

24 posted on 12/14/2003 7:35:01 AM PST by CindyDawg
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To: kattracks
If convicted (heh), he should not be permitted the dignity of a firing squad. Build a gallows and hang the bastard.

The Nuremberg precedent is the one to follow here.

25 posted on 12/14/2003 7:35:13 AM PST by Petronski (Living life in a minor key.)
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To: Petronski
Death by shoeing?
26 posted on 12/14/2003 7:36:16 AM PST by CindyDawg
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To: Moose4
. . . see him tried and convicted before an Iraqi war crimes court, and see him publicly hanged on the exact spot where we pulled down that massive statue in April. THAT, folks, would be true justice.

10-4. However, to be sure all goes according to plan Saddam should remain under control of the U.S. military until the hanging is carried out and this monster is certified dead.

27 posted on 12/14/2003 7:38:15 AM PST by toddst
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To: Loyalist
My guess is that the Europeans will demand that he go to the Hague court. The Iraqis will convene a court within two weeks, pass judgement before the end of January, and execute him within hours of judgement. The US simply needs a week interrogating the fool on various topics before we hand him over to the Iraqis. This man will not spend one hour in Gitmo. His time on earth can be counted in hours now. And as for Ossama....he needs to look at the people around him...one of them will eventually turn him in too.
28 posted on 12/14/2003 7:40:11 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: kattracks
The Iranians desperately want to have a piece of him too; any articles on reaction in Tehran?

Only way to get multiple countries involved in the execution would be a firing squad...one Kuwaiti, One Iranian, then Iraqis Kurds, Sunnis, Shiites; problem is a firing squad is a "soldier's death"...a death with honor. Has to be hanging. Maybe you could rig up multiple levers...
29 posted on 12/14/2003 7:45:18 AM PST by John H K
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To: kattracks
Colonel West should be allowed to "interview" him! :-)
30 posted on 12/14/2003 7:56:37 AM PST by Realist
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To: Fair Paul
Victory tour, in a cage, packed with pork rinds.
31 posted on 12/14/2003 8:00:07 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: MissAmericanPie; kattracks
Saddam should face several trials. One in Iraq, and one Military tribunal in the USofA.

Saddam should face several trials. One in Iraq, and one Military tribunal in the USofA Guantanamo Bay.

32 posted on 12/14/2003 8:21:36 AM PST by Paleo Conservative (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: Snake65
BTW, I'm sure the administration knows exactly what they're going to do with him.

And I'm sure the Bush administration wants to grill him on WMD's and connections with Al Quaeda. As for the naive nine, I'll bet the wished Saddam pulled a Hitler. Afterall, dead men don't talk.

33 posted on 12/14/2003 8:46:03 AM PST by Go Gordon (The older I get, the better I used to be.)
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