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Saddam's capture: Early analysis (Al Jazeera)
Al Jazeera ^ | December 14, 2003

Posted on 12/14/2003 7:08:22 AM PST by sandlady

Leading analysts and political commentators agree the capture of Saddam Hussein represents a coup for the US but questions remain about its repercussions.

Mustafa Alani, analyst at Royal United Services Institute in London:

"There will be a reduction in operations sponsored by former regime loyalists, but this is not the full story because they are not the only group involved. It won't affect those by Iraqi or Arab mujahidin and might increase them because those who did not want to be branded as supporters of Saddam might now join a resistance with a more nationalist dimension.

For the Americans, after the failure to capture Usama bin Ladin after so many years, it is a propaganda coup, especially if he were captured alive. It's an intelligence prize because they can get information from him about cells working now. And it's a huge victory because he was the head of the regime and not like anyone else on the list of 55 most wanted."

Toby Dodge, analyst at Warwick University and International Institute for Strategic Studies, UK:

"It's a huge coup and most Iraqis will be celebrating the capture of this tyrant. But it's not as clear-cut as that. The insurgency has grown well beyond Saddam's control or even influence. There are 15 to 30 groups that have no direct contact, financially or strategically, with Saddam Hussein. His capture gives the United States a window of opportunity.

If they redouble their efforts and increase their troop commitment, they could contain or even roll back the insurgency. But the temptation of Bush, facing a re-election campaign, will be to call this victory and cut and run. That would be a disaster for Iraq, for the Middle East and for the strategic interests of the United States in the region and beyond."

Jalal Talabani, Iraqi Governing Council member and head of Patriotic Union of Kurdistan:

"With the arrest of Saddam the financial resources feeding terrorists have been destroyed and his arrest will put an end to terrorist acts in Iraq,"

Amar al-Hakim, member of the Central Council of the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq:

"The Iraqi nation is happy and the sound of gunfire indicates the Iraqi's people's joy and happiness. His arrest will put an end to military and terrorist attacks and the Iraqi nation will achieve stability. We want Saddam to get what he deserves. I believe he will be sentenced to hundreds of death sentences at a fair trial because he's responsible for all the massacres and crimes in Iraq."

Walid Mubarak, Beirut-based political analyst:

"I think the reaction is going to be positive, but there are still questions about the occupation of Iraq... I don't think this will resolve that. But we will have to wait and see how people will react in Iraq. What I know about their (US) behaviour is that there have been mistakes. I hope they have learned from their mistakes."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: arabmedia; capture; greatnews; gulfwar2; gulfwarii; husseincapture; iraq; iraqaftermath; saddam; saddamcaptured; saddamhussein; tikrit; topplesaddam; viceisclosed
Jalal Talabani, Iraqi Governing Council member and head of Patriotic Union of Kurdistan:

"With the arrest of Saddam the financial resources feeding terrorists have been destroyed and his arrest will put an end to terrorist acts in Iraq,"

This is huge, if true. I believe it is true.

1 posted on 12/14/2003 7:08:22 AM PST by sandlady
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To: sandlady
. But the temptation of Bush, facing a re-election campaign, will be to call this victory and cut and run.

They don't know him do they.
You'd think they would have learnded by now.
3 posted on 12/14/2003 7:13:15 AM PST by tet68
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To: sandlady
those who did not want to be branded as supporters of Saddam might now join a resistance with a more nationalist dimension.

Hillary, Dean, Kerry, et al. now have a new purpose in life.

4 posted on 12/14/2003 7:16:20 AM PST by Young Rhino (http://www.artofdivorce.com)
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To: sandlady

5 posted on 12/14/2003 7:17:22 AM PST by Prince Charles
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To: sandlady
Folks at DU spin this as good for the dwarves and bad for Bush. You can pick your fantasy from their POV:


6 posted on 12/14/2003 7:19:32 AM PST by Jalapeno
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To: sandlady
failure to capture Usama bin Ladin


7 posted on 12/14/2003 7:19:45 AM PST by ASA Vet ("Those who know don't talk, those who talk don't know.")
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To: sandlady
Don't miss this thread!

Terrorist Behind September 11 Strike was Trained by Saddam

8 posted on 12/14/2003 7:21:41 AM PST by TigersEye ("Where there is life there is hope!" - Terri Schiavo)
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To: sandlady
Amar al-Hakim, member of the Central Council of the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq:

"The Iraqi nation is happy and the sound of gunfire indicates the Iraqi's people's joy and happiness. His arrest will put an end to military and terrorist attacks and the Iraqi nation will achieve stability. We want Saddam to get what he deserves. I believe he will be sentenced to hundreds of death sentences at a fair trial because he's responsible for all the massacres and crimes in Iraq."

I saw a man interviewed by Shep this morning (I was to sleepy to comprehend his name) but when asked about his reaction to the "news" he said that he was surprised Saddam was captured so easily. He said that he did not need to see a trial. I think a trial for Saddam is a very important step for Iraq.

1. It will detail all of his atrocities (for the world)

2. It will show the Iraqis a judicial system that is not simply dictatorial: "slay the ones who don't conform."

9 posted on 12/14/2003 7:25:42 AM PST by sandlady
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To: Jalapeno
there will be a massive uprising which will free him,

Someone said that?

10 posted on 12/14/2003 7:26:55 AM PST by sandlady
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To: tet68
>But the temptation of Bush, facing a re-election campaign, will be to call this victory and cut and run.

They don't know him do they. You'd think they would have learned by now.

One would think. But I don't have a problem with them continuing to underestimate him.

11 posted on 12/14/2003 7:30:50 AM PST by Eala (Sacrificing tagline fame for... TRAD ANGLICAN RESOURCE PAGE: http://eala.freeservers.com/anglican)
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To: sandlady
I believe the part in this article about others is true. There are others independent of Saddam involved. I do believe they will be dealt with in time.
12 posted on 12/14/2003 7:32:22 AM PST by freekitty
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To: sandlady
yes, his incarceration was thought to be only temporary...
14 posted on 12/14/2003 7:35:56 AM PST by Jalapeno
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To: TigersEye
I know! Did you hear about how Rumsfeld hosted a Christmas party last night? He and Cheney were said to have been in particularly jovial moods! How did they ever keep this inside????? HA!





i'm not gloating-i'm just so proud of our troops!!!!
15 posted on 12/14/2003 7:36:39 AM PST by sandlady
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To: Baynative
According to BBC TV, the Arab Street is very upset because Saddam again failed to put up a fight.

On the other hand, they're interviewing an Iraqui Nat. Congress guy right now, and he's been giving a humorous little speech about Saddam as a big coward who was always overprotected and etc.

16 posted on 12/14/2003 7:39:25 AM PST by angkor
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To: sandlady
so far the best one I have seen over there is that hellary gave the troops the motivation to find him with her visit recently! They are really sick people over there on that place. I can't go back in there. It feels like setting up a Christmas tree in a crack-house- it is still Christmas, but it doesn't make a difference to them.
17 posted on 12/14/2003 7:39:34 AM PST by ThinkingMan
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To: Baynative
Kerry's comment that while it's a good day for Iraqi's, Americans are still going to die.

This is why Kerry will never be president. Saddam Hussein's capture will preserve the lives of innocents all across the world but most importantly Americans. The most important reason we are in Iraq is because the ultimate goal of Saddam H and his "friends" is the demise of Americans. Thank God President Bush understands this. The Americans I believe Kerry to be speaking of are the highly trained troops of our military who are proud to be doing the job they signed up to do-protect the people of the USA! A president can't be timid about issues such as this.

18 posted on 12/14/2003 7:43:47 AM PST by sandlady
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To: angkor
There's yet another fellow on BBC TV - this one an Iranian/Brit - calling Saddam a coward, pathological, etc., saying that Arabs will be upset because Saddam didn't shoot himself in the head, and he had a gun, and he refused to be martyred.
19 posted on 12/14/2003 7:45:40 AM PST by angkor
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To: ThinkingMan
so far the best one I have seen over there is that hellary gave the troops the motivation to find him with her visit recently!

Wow. That one sure wins the dork award. The military hates her.

20 posted on 12/14/2003 7:46:21 AM PST by concerned about politics ( "Satire". It's Just "Satire.".......So it is.)
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To: ThinkingMan
I totally "get" your post. I haven't ventured over there yet. A little later maybe once I've taken all this in. It is truly a sad place--do you know, when the thread went up over here (FR) about the link between Saddam and the 9/11 Striker, I went over to see what their reactions were. Not even a mention--just polls about the goofiest things. Nothing of substance.
21 posted on 12/14/2003 7:49:36 AM PST by sandlady
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To: sandlady
"The Iraqi nation is happy and the sound of gunfire indicates the Iraqi's people's joy and happiness. His arrest will put an end to military and terrorist attacks and the Iraqi nation will achieve stability. We want Saddam to get what he deserves. I believe he will be sentenced to hundreds of death sentences at a fair trial because he's responsible for all the massacres and crimes in Iraq."

I wonder if Mark Geragos will represent him at the trial.

22 posted on 12/14/2003 7:50:05 AM PST by GreenHornet
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To: concerned about politics
hellary gave the troops the motivation to find him with her visit recently

That must really upset the other DU'ers who are saying the Kurds captured Saddam, not U.S. troops.

23 posted on 12/14/2003 7:51:02 AM PST by angkor
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To: Jalapeno
Bush has 'peaked' too early,

That one made me laugh out loud!

24 posted on 12/14/2003 7:53:11 AM PST by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: angkor
I admit, I expected to see him in a similar condition to his sons--not alive. He's much more valuable alive. He's always been a coward--now I wonder how "smart" he really is.
25 posted on 12/14/2003 7:53:42 AM PST by sandlady
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To: Baynative
Yes, what else will the TRAITOR RATS do now?

Maybe there is still a light in the tunnel for this country. Now, we MUST send the ILLEGALS home, NOT, NOT, NOT Amnesty!!!!
26 posted on 12/14/2003 7:55:09 AM PST by olinr
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To: GreenHornet
I wonder if Mark Geragos will represent him at the trial.

LOL Do you think the defense will be related to satanic worship or the fact that Saddam is a celebrity?

27 posted on 12/14/2003 8:00:27 AM PST by sandlady
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To: olinr
Yes, what else will the TRAITOR RATS do now?

Well, they're now damanding more free handouts for teachers, more free medical handouts, more sharing of everyone elses pay checks, more free....etc.. The usual social parasidic stuff.
They say it's time for "all Americans" get back to what's really important. Them.

28 posted on 12/14/2003 8:01:00 AM PST by concerned about politics ( "Satire". It's Just "Satire.".......So it is.)
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To: olinr
Ohhhh. The Democrats have it all figured out. We're busted. We're toast.

Bush was Jealous

He wanted his very own war criminal too. Coincidence I'm sure that Wes Clark flew to the Hague to testify against Milosivich this week. The capture of Saddam will take the focus off the trial and closed hearing ordered by the US. Any thoughts on this anyone?

ROTF! Snort.

29 posted on 12/14/2003 8:12:54 AM PST by concerned about politics ( "Satire". It's Just "Satire.".......So it is.)
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To: concerned about politics
They say it's time for "all Americans" get back to what's really important. Them.

Sadly, you are right. From DU:

As I go to my chiropractor to get him to fix my broken back, broken from so much hard labor, I will hand him my entire paycheck because I have no insurance, and must forego groceries...but I will be smiling as I do it because that evil man Saddam has been captured! Whoopty-sh**!

RandomKoolzip (1000+ posts) Sun Dec-14-03 10:59 AM Response to Reply #59 72. Yessirree Bob

(Edited for profanity)

All of his posts are like this. NO groceries--but he has a computer. Poor guy.

30 posted on 12/14/2003 8:14:01 AM PST by sandlady
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To: freekitty
Its True what OUR PRESIDENT said then if there are 15-30 groups in iraq GW did a brilliant job in getting the terrorist to go to iraq so as not to have them come to San Francisco or NY or Miami. GOOD JOB GW god bless you!
31 posted on 12/14/2003 8:17:46 AM PST by DAPFE8900
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To: sandlady
As I go to my chiropractor to get him to fix my broken back, broken from so much hard labor, I will...

Riiiight. Flipping too many of those burgers. It's just wayyyy toooo hard!

32 posted on 12/14/2003 8:20:21 AM PST by concerned about politics ( "Satire". It's Just "Satire.".......So it is.)
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To: sandlady
I wonder if that "forego groceries" recipie tastes like chicken.

Anyhhow - DUmbDemocRATS are into eating nuts and fruit, and growing their own vegetables free from nazty pesticides. Tell him to go in his backyard and have a flower salad.
33 posted on 12/14/2003 8:21:14 AM PST by PokeyJoe (All I want for Christmas is a Bellanca Decatholon 250)
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To: ThinkingMan
It feels like setting up a Christmas tree in a crack-house-

Wow! Great analogy.

34 posted on 12/14/2003 8:24:46 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: sandlady
Oh..wait a minute. The DU tides have turned.
Now, Saddams capture is a trick to boost the evil stock market.
Yep. They've caught us. We're busted. LOL.
35 posted on 12/14/2003 8:25:56 AM PST by concerned about politics ( "Satire". It's Just "Satire.".......So it is.)
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To: sandlady
All of his posts are like this. NO groceries--but he has a computer. Poor guy.

He probably cribbed this from "Queen for a Day."

36 posted on 12/14/2003 8:28:17 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: sandlady
Interrogator to Saddam: "You will tell us everything you know about 9/11, WMD, and certain other topics on that sheet of paper in front of you, or we will turn you over to the Kurds whose families you gassed a few years back"
37 posted on 12/14/2003 8:29:42 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (Happiness is a belt-fed weapon)
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To: concerned about politics
Now, Saddams capture is a trick to boost the evil stock market.

Oh it likely will boost the market, but you know I am kind of glad that this is not what pushed it over 10,000. We did that all by our little selves. A saddam-captured bump is just gravy.

38 posted on 12/14/2003 8:35:28 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Dear Mr. Claus, Sadly Donner wasn't wearing a orange vest when he walked under my bow stand......)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
but you know I am kind of glad that this is not what pushed it over 10,000. We did that all by our little selves. A saddam-captured bump is just gravy

Oh oh. Gravy is made from animal juice. That'll really put them over the edge. Now ya done it!

39 posted on 12/14/2003 8:44:29 AM PST by concerned about politics ( "Satire". It's Just "Satire.".......So it is.)
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To: concerned about politics
Check out my tag line if you wonder where I am getting the animal juice to make the gravy....
40 posted on 12/14/2003 8:46:39 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Dear Mr. Claus, Sadly Donner wasn't wearing a orange vest when he walked under my bow stand......)
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To: sandlady
If I missed this in another of your posts, please excuse; if you didn't vote in the poll on the aljazeera website, this is the question. Might want to drop back by and vote.


"Will the capture of Saddam Hussein weaken Iraqi resistance?"
41 posted on 12/14/2003 9:16:47 AM PST by Maria S ("…the end is near…this time, Americans are serious; Bush is not like Clinton." Uday Hussein 4/9/03)
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To: sandlady
I love going over to DU to read what those idiots have to say. It comforts me greatly to read from their own lips just how incompentent they are when it comes to political analysis.

But today (12/14) is especially good. These idiots are imploding without any clue as to just how stupid they sound. Everytime these morons turn around, the truth continually slaps them in the face and they are forced to, once again, deny the reality that is obvious to everyone else. Oh what joy it is to observe and to laugh at. I strongly urge anyone who wants comic relief for a minute or two to pop over and watch these idiots trip all over themselves.
42 posted on 12/14/2003 9:53:48 AM PST by USA4ME (Let's Roll !!!!)
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To: Maria S
I did vote but should have prompted everyone else to as well. Thanks for the bump.
43 posted on 12/14/2003 1:04:28 PM PST by sandlady
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To: sandlady

44 posted on 12/14/2003 1:46:29 PM PST by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: DAPFE8900
if there are 15-30 groups in iraq GW did a brilliant job in getting the terrorist to go to iraq so as not to have them come to San Francisco or NY or Miami. GOOD JOB GW
BINGO!

45 posted on 12/14/2003 5:21:00 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (Belief in your own objectivity is the essence of subjectivity.)
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