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Arabs Have Mixed Emotions About Saddam Capture
news.myway.com ^ | Dec 14, 9:10 AM (ET) | By Edmund Blair

Posted on 12/14/2003 7:32:49 AM PST by ovrtaxt

CAIRO (Reuters) - Arabs greeted the capture of Saddam Hussein with divided emotions Sunday, welcoming the arrest of a dictator yet tinged with regret that a symbol of Arab defiance against the United States was behind bars.

Some feared Saddam's capture would boost President Bush, who many Arabs believe has waged a campaign against them and other Muslims after the September 11 attacks. But others said the fight against U.S. occupation would go on.

"It is happy news but we wish it were the Iraqi people who had captured him, not U.S. troops, because this will give Bush a boost in the upcoming election," said Bahraini salesman Hussein Jafar as news of Saddam's capture swept through Arab capitals.

U.S. troops captured Saddam, grubby and bearded, when he was dug out by troops from a narrow hiding hole during a raid on a farm near his hometown of Tikrit.

"I only wish it was not the Americans who got him. I don't like Saddam but as an Arab I wouldn't like to see them (Americans) dragging him around Baghdad," said Syrian student Abdul-Nasser.

For others, the capture was disappointing news. Saddam may have been seen as a dictator who oppressed his people, but many also saw him as the only Arab leader who stood up to the United States, which they said rode roughshod through the region.

"Of course it's bad news. To us, Saddam was a symbol of defiance to the U.S. plans in the region. And we support any person who stands in the face of the American dominance," said Azzam Hneidi, an Islamist member of Jordan's parliament.

KEEPING UP THE FIGHT

Others said the U.S. success might prove fleeting, saying Iraqis were not fighting for Saddam but for an end to the U.S. occupation of Iraq.

"The situation in Iraq will not change much. I don't think the resistance was linked to Saddam and it will increase as was the case after the death of Uday and Qusay," said Yemeni political analyst Saeed Shabet, referring to Saddam's two sons.

In Gaza and the West Bank, where Palestinians are fighting against an Israeli occupation, some were in somber mood that the United States, perceived as providing unswerving support for Israel, could claim victory.

"It's a black day in history. I am saying so not because Saddam is an Arab but because he is the only man who said 'no' to American injustice in the Middle East," said Fadiq Husam, a 33-year-old taxi driver in the West Bank city of Ramallah.

But in Kuwait, occupied by Iraq in 1990-1991, the reaction was one of joy. Some cars honked horns along a seaside road that during the occupation had been lined with Iraqi army positions. Others sent mobile phone messages to spread the news.

"We are so happy they got him...The people of Iraq have been brainwashed by the Saddam regime. They need another 20 years to realize that the Kuwaitis are not to blame for the Iraqis' plight," said Kuwaiti Mohammad al-Hudieb, cruising the Arabian Gulf seafront in his jeep.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
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Religion of Peace Alert...
1 posted on 12/14/2003 7:32:50 AM PST by ovrtaxt
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To: ovrtaxt
Sheesh! Reading that headline I thought it was something from Edward Said... but he's dead.
2 posted on 12/14/2003 7:35:15 AM PST by Eala (Sacrificing tagline fame for... TRAD ANGLICAN RESOURCE PAGE: http://eala.freeservers.com/anglican)
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To: ovrtaxt
"It is happy news but we wish it were the Iraqi people who had captured him, not U.S. troops, because this will give Bush a boost in the upcoming election," said Bahraini salesman Hussein Jafar as news of Saddam's capture swept through Arab capitals.

Seems there's a solid Democrat base in Bahrain.

"It's a black day in history. I am saying so not because Saddam is an Arab but because he is the only man who said 'no' to American injustice in the Middle East," said Fadiq Husam, a 33-year-old taxi driver in the West Bank city of Ramallah.

Oh, this guy's a real peach.

3 posted on 12/14/2003 7:35:38 AM PST by ovrtaxt ( http://www.fairtax.org * Centrist Republicans are the semi-colons of the political keyboard.)
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To: AnnaZ
THIS is pricelss...ya' can't make this stuff up.
4 posted on 12/14/2003 7:36:52 AM PST by diotima
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To: ovrtaxt
"It's a black day in history. I am saying so not because Saddam is an Arab but because he is the only man who said 'no' to American injustice in the Middle East," said Fadiq Husam, a 33-year-old taxi driver in the West Bank city of Ramallah."

I sure hope this guy's reaction isn't typical. Geesh, we've still got a long way to go in reasoning with these people who sometimes defy logic.
5 posted on 12/14/2003 7:37:20 AM PST by demkicker
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To: ovrtaxt
I'd be P.O.'d about how Arabs have any sympathy for this b_st_rd, but then I turn on CBS and CNN and see the mixed emotions showing there.

Did Biden really say this is "a big, big , day for George W. Bush"? Slimeball . . .

6 posted on 12/14/2003 7:37:26 AM PST by BenLurkin (Socialism is Slavery)
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To: ovrtaxt
Yeah, right? Nevermind the copious amounts of injustice Saddam regularly spread around on his own. Yet the perceived American injustices are somehow worse than being the reason why there're so many mass graves in Iraq. But because he's an arab, mass murders committed by him are a-ok. Right.
7 posted on 12/14/2003 7:39:00 AM PST by Green Knight (Looking forward to seeing Jeb stepping over Hillary's rotting political corpse in 2008.)
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To: ovrtaxt
Maybe these Arab nationalists should stop moping and think about picking a better symbol for Arab nationalism and anti-American defiance. Like, you know, a journalist or something. Not a tyrant mass-murderer dictator who used to run a terror state and now opens his mouth for tongue depressors.
8 posted on 12/14/2003 7:39:02 AM PST by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: ovrtaxt
"...regret that a symbol of Arab defiance against the United States was behind bars."

Regret over finally understanding what President Bush meant what he said.

9 posted on 12/14/2003 7:39:36 AM PST by CWOJackson (President Bush is responsibile for cellulite...)
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To: demkicker
If born out this pretty much establishes beyond doubt that the fight in Iraq is a fight against terrorists and not against the Iraqi people.
10 posted on 12/14/2003 7:40:06 AM PST by BenLurkin (Socialism is Slavery)
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To: ovrtaxt
These people should have to go tell this crap to the Iraqi people.

Yeah, the Iraqis are sorry America captured Hussein also, because he stood up to America. < /sarcasm>
11 posted on 12/14/2003 7:40:33 AM PST by eyespysomething
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To: ovrtaxt

Saddam, wandering the streets of Baghdad
12 posted on 12/14/2003 7:42:08 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: ovrtaxt
**yet tinged with regret that a symbol of Arab defiance against the United States was behind bars.**

Yeah, they are losing a source of money!
13 posted on 12/14/2003 7:42:21 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: ovrtaxt
Journalists are deeply saddened by his capture. They join Tom Daschle in mourning.
14 posted on 12/14/2003 7:42:29 AM PST by Young Rhino (http://www.artofdivorce.com)
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To: BenLurkin
Perhaps, one day, Arabs freed by the US will stand up to the scum among them and deal with these problems themselves. The Turks are a fair model to emulate.

And watch Iran. The tide is turning, as Gandalf says...
15 posted on 12/14/2003 7:43:24 AM PST by ovrtaxt ( http://www.fairtax.org * Centrist Republicans are the semi-colons of the political keyboard.)
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To: Cultural Jihad
Hey, Aqualung.... :^p
16 posted on 12/14/2003 7:44:31 AM PST by ovrtaxt ( http://www.fairtax.org * Centrist Republicans are the semi-colons of the political keyboard.)
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To: demkicker
I sure hope this guy's reaction isn't typical.

I am pretty sure its typical of many leftists/democrats who are hearing the news this morning.

17 posted on 12/14/2003 7:46:32 AM PST by KC_Conspirator (This space for rent)
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To: ovrtaxt
I only wish it was not the Americans who got him.

Yeah. Coulda been the Kurds...

18 posted on 12/14/2003 7:47:57 AM PST by Alouette (Personne me plumerá)
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To: KC_Conspirator
I jumped over to DU earlier. As of 9:30 or so, they had a total of about 115 posts on the entire subject. They started about 5:30 AM. They are twisting in the wind....HAHAHA
19 posted on 12/14/2003 7:49:08 AM PST by ovrtaxt ( http://www.fairtax.org * Centrist Republicans are the semi-colons of the political keyboard.)
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On NBC, being interviewed about his reaction to Saddam's capture, John F-word Kerry popped up on my TV screen, talking about the administration 'hubris'. I immediately began beating my shoe against his face on the TV....
20 posted on 12/14/2003 7:49:51 AM PST by Diddle E. Squat (www.firethebcs.com, www.weneedaplayoff.com, www.firemackbrown.com, www.firecarlreese.com)
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To: ovrtaxt
Arabs believe has waged a campaign against them and other Muslims after the September 11 attacks

You bet your bippy we are waging a campaign against you! It wasn't Mormans who have been terrorizing the world. Nor is it all Muslims, but it WAS arabs.

21 posted on 12/14/2003 7:50:46 AM PST by doodad
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To: ovrtaxt
Don't miss this thread!

Terrorist Behind September 11 Strike was Trained by Saddam

22 posted on 12/14/2003 7:50:57 AM PST by TigersEye ("Where there is life there is hope!" - Terri Schiavo)
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To: ovrtaxt
Iraqis were not fighting for Saddam but for an end to the U.S. occupation of Iraq.
That is quite impossible militarily--and quite easy politically. Just stop the violence against Iraqiswhich is the rationale for the continued expence of maintaining U.S. troops in Iraq.

Allow a democratic republic to be installed in Iraq and begin to work smoothly--and watch the occupation voluntarily dissipate before your eyes. That however would represent American success, American victory--and it is that which the "resistance" opposes. They want us to lose face, and will die trying failing to achieve that.


23 posted on 12/14/2003 7:53:47 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (Belief in your own objectivity is the essence of subjectivity.)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Arabs Have Mixed Emotions About Saddam Capture

Same for ABC. Pentagon reporter Sheila McVicker is speaking in a tone as if she's informing her relatives about a death in the family. Terry Moran deflated. Bastard George Snuphaluffagus expressing disbelief that Saddam could have been directing or involved in any of the insurgencies.

24 posted on 12/14/2003 7:55:37 AM PST by Diddle E. Squat (www.firethebcs.com, www.weneedaplayoff.com, www.firemackbrown.com, www.firecarlreese.com)
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To: ovrtaxt
"I only wish it was not the Americans who got him. I don't like Saddam but as an Arab I wouldn't like to see them (Americans) dragging him around Baghdad," said Syrian student Abdul-Nasser.

Muslims drag dead Americans around, not the other way A-Hole!

25 posted on 12/14/2003 8:02:29 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: ovrtaxt
Don't miss this thread!

Terrorist Behind September 11 Strike was Trained by Saddam

26 posted on 12/14/2003 8:02:48 AM PST by TigersEye ("Where there is life there is hope!" - Terri Schiavo)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
And the 'Moron of the Year' award goes to Aaron Brown, who just now asked the new Iraqi Foreign Minister, "Will the Iraqi people accept the capture of Saddam Hussein?"

I kid you not.

27 posted on 12/14/2003 8:03:53 AM PST by Diddle E. Squat (www.firethebcs.com, www.weneedaplayoff.com, www.firemackbrown.com, www.firecarlreese.com)
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To: Cultural Jihad
Sandlung!
28 posted on 12/14/2003 8:04:32 AM PST by arasina (What will YOU do when Howard Dean or Hillary Clinton is president?)
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To: ovrtaxt
DU just goes to show you how unpatriotic the left is and that they support America's enemies.
29 posted on 12/14/2003 8:08:05 AM PST by KC_Conspirator (This space for rent)
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To: ovrtaxt
Proving that nothing succeeds like success, especially in a society that respects only power.
30 posted on 12/14/2003 8:08:13 AM PST by RobbyS (XP)
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To: ovrtaxt
"I only wish it was not the Americans who got him. I don't like Saddam but as an arab I wouldn't like to see them (Americans) dragging him around Baghdad," said Syrian student Abdul Nasser.

Well, F### Abdul Nasser. And he is a student, WHERE?

Get used to it, Abdul. Your arrogance is based on an illusion. We are the conquering army. Live with it.
31 posted on 12/14/2003 9:25:36 AM PST by Devil_Anse
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To: demkicker
I sure hope this guy's reaction isn't typical. Geesh, we've still got a long way to go in reasoning with these people who sometimes defy logic.

I think it's a clear indicator that an Iraqi democratic Constitutional republic will never work or last. Our beloved US Constitution took a major hit last week, and few Americans cared. Iraqis, accustomed to abuse from government, won't even know the difference. While everyday Iraqis will enjoy the nest few years, installing a liberated government in Iraq, sadly, is probably just window-dressing in the long run.

32 posted on 12/14/2003 9:42:27 AM PST by Teacher317
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To: RobbyS
My favorite picture today. Saddam captured in a rat hole without a fight, and in one of his palaces, US soldiers watch on TV.


33 posted on 12/14/2003 9:44:52 AM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Devil_Anse
"I only wish it was not the Americans who got him. I don't like Saddam but as an arab I wouldn't like to see them (Americans) dragging him around Baghdad," said Syrian student Abdul Nasser.

No suprise here, Arabs in general are a bunch stupid and cowardish morons. Even French would defeat any of their "regular army".
No wonder handful of Izraelis beat the living crap out of them quiet a few times in last 50 years.

35 posted on 12/14/2003 10:39:51 AM PST by Anticommie
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To: ovrtaxt
Gee, I have mixed emotions, too. Ecstasy and jubilation!
36 posted on 12/14/2003 1:34:09 PM PST by ntnychik
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To: Diddle E. Squat
John F*** Kerry said if we'd done it his way, internationally, we could have found Saddam sooner.
37 posted on 12/14/2003 1:36:19 PM PST by ntnychik (Whaddya call the Coalition?)
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To: ovrtaxt

38 posted on 12/14/2003 1:37:21 PM PST by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: Travis McGee
Dude, you gotta photoshop Saddam with your book asap!
39 posted on 12/14/2003 1:39:03 PM PST by cmsgop (Whatever You Do,..... Do Not PING Arthur McGowan)
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To: Cultural Jihad
Feeling like a dead duck --
spitting out pieces of his broken luck.
40 posted on 12/14/2003 1:51:00 PM PST by hunter112
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To: ovrtaxt
It's going to be interesting to watch the reaction of these people when the story of what this man did to his people is televised during his trial.

Most of these people think Saddam was harsh, but they don't believe half the stories they have heard, when they see the evidence laid out in front of them they are going to be horrified.

41 posted on 12/14/2003 2:04:28 PM PST by McGavin999
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To: Anticommie
I completely agree with you.
42 posted on 12/14/2003 2:34:56 PM PST by Devil_Anse
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To: hunter112; Cultural Jihad
Saddam will surely remember this December's foggy freeze.......

When the lice that clung on to his beard was screaming agony.

43 posted on 12/14/2003 4:23:05 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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