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Saddam Capture 'Painful' for Arabs [I love him so much, I can’t stand watching it]
Scotsman ^ | 12-13-03

Posted on 12/14/2003 9:00:57 AM PST by SJackson

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Saddam Capture 'Painful' for Arabs

For many ordinary Palestinians, the TV footage of a dishevelled Saddam obediently submitting to a medical exam by his US captors was painful to watch: it sealed the defeat of the one Arab leader they felt always stood by them.

Saddam should have put up a fight or committed suicide, they said, and his surrender is a stain on Arab honour.

“It is a big defeat for all Arabs and Muslims,” said Raji Hassan, 29, watching TV with friends in a Gaza City coffee shop.

The Palestinian Authority declined official comment.

While Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat had supported Saddam in the 1991 Gulf War, his government had been careful to stay on the sidelines during the US-led invasion of Iraq this year.

Mohammed Horani, a legislator from Arafat’s ruling Fatah movement, said he expected many Palestinians and Arabs to have mixed feelings.

“Saddam is a dictator and the Iraqi people suffered under him, but on the other hand, it was the (American) occupation that caught him,” he said. “There will be a sense of confusion in the public.”

Horani said he had expected Saddam to be more courageous. ”I had expected him to have fought back, or at least end his life,” he said. “But then again, all dictators are cowards.”

During the past three years of Israeli-Palestinian fighting, Saddam sent millions of dollars to the West Bank and Gaza Strip.

In the 1991 Gulf War, Saddam attacked Israel with 39 Scud missiles, in the failed hope of breaking up an Arab coalition against him.

When the Iraqi missiles flew over the West Bank, en route to targets in Israel, Palestinians would often cheer.

Today, about a dozen men were playing pool in Gaza City hall while the news was being broadcast on a television in the corner. No one even turned to look at the television.

“I love him so much, I can’t stand watching it while he’s in custody,” Raafat Logman, 23, said as he was shooting pool. “We are surprised. We are so sad,” said Sameh Aloul, 22


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aceofspades; ageofliberty; arabworld; captured; decapitation; greatnews; gulfwar2; gulfwarii; iraq; iraqaftermath; saddam; saddamcaptured; saddamhussein; tikrit; topplesaddam; viceisclosed; viceisclosing
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1 posted on 12/14/2003 9:00:57 AM PST by SJackson
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...
If you'd like to be on or off this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.
2 posted on 12/14/2003 9:01:28 AM PST by SJackson (If Iraq came across the Jordan River I'd grab a rifle and get in the trench and fight and die, x42)
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To: SJackson
It's painful for leftists too.
3 posted on 12/14/2003 9:02:09 AM PST by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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To: SJackson
...and his surrender is a stain on Arab honour.

I'm seeing images of a dog and a fire hydrant.

4 posted on 12/14/2003 9:04:36 AM PST by rickmichaels
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To: SJackson
These stories only make this day more satisfying.
5 posted on 12/14/2003 9:04:52 AM PST by Gumption
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To: SJackson
It's not only painful for Arabs but for the Rats and the main media as well. I love it.

They look miserable, LOL!!!

6 posted on 12/14/2003 9:05:03 AM PST by Victoria Delsoul (I love the smell of winning, the taste of victory, and the joy of each glorious triumph)
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To: SJackson
capturing sodom is america's christmas present to the world
7 posted on 12/14/2003 9:05:30 AM PST by 1john2 3and4 ( at ONE with my duality)
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To: SJackson
We are so sad,” said Sameh Aloul, 22

Yo Sameh...if yas thing yer sad you aughta see Lil Tom.

8 posted on 12/14/2003 9:06:00 AM PST by evad (Most politicians lie, cheat and steal. It's all they know to do and they won't stop...EVER!)
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To: SJackson
a dishevelled Saddam obediently submitting to a medical exam by his US captors was painful to watch:

Yeah, well.....

We feel your pain.

;-)

9 posted on 12/14/2003 9:06:03 AM PST by ArmstedFragg
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To: SJackson
I feel their pain.

Snicker.

10 posted on 12/14/2003 9:08:18 AM PST by Catspaw
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To: SJackson
“We are surprised. We are so sad,” said Sameh Aloul, 22


11 posted on 12/14/2003 9:08:30 AM PST by LurkedLongEnough
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To: SJackson
“There will be a sense of confusion in the public.”

How much more confused can Arabs be, when they make heros of thugs, baby killers, mass murderers, and other vile waste?

12 posted on 12/14/2003 9:09:23 AM PST by angkor
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To: SJackson
On a day like this, it's just so great to be alive - to be a Republican - and AN AMERCAN. Yaaaaahooooo!

Our military is so amazing....:)

13 posted on 12/14/2003 9:11:07 AM PST by veronica (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1036919/post-Screenwriting Contest thread/ATTN:FR writers)
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To: Catspaw
I feel their pain. Snicker.

*Chortle*

14 posted on 12/14/2003 9:12:08 AM PST by veronica (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1036919/post-Screenwriting Contest thread/ATTN:FR writers)
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To: SJackson
Saddam should have put up a fight or committed suicide, they said, and his surrender is a stain on Arab honour.

What arab honour? The arab culture is one big stain as it is.

In his day, the Saudi philosopher Abdallah Al-Qassimi said many times that 'the greatest distance [between two points] in the world is the distance between an Arab's words and his deeds.'

15 posted on 12/14/2003 9:13:46 AM PST by Publius6961 (40% of Californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks.)
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To: veronica; Catspaw
Best pic I could find. They're not allowing press in the internet cafes in the territories. The laptop is out of the frame on the right.


16 posted on 12/14/2003 9:15:53 AM PST by SJackson (If Iraq came across the Jordan River I'd grab a rifle and get in the trench and fight and die, x42)
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To: SJackson
“It is a big defeat for all Arabs and Muslims,” said Raji Hassan, 29, watching TV with friends in a Gaza City coffee shop.

Which makes it all the sweeter! Shows the mentality of these people who support such evil.

17 posted on 12/14/2003 9:17:42 AM PST by ladyinred (If all the world's a stage, I want to operate the trap door!)
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To: SJackson
Yup, a sad day for the Palies--I just can't stop grinning.
18 posted on 12/14/2003 9:22:56 AM PST by Catspaw
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To: SJackson
The capture of Saddam has very large consequences for not only the Palestinians but Islam as a whole. According to the teachings of Islam, when a man attacks a neighbor that is stronger and brings the wrath and destruction from that stronger neighbor onto his village, that man is a shame to Islam.

For Saddam to be in the hands of America, his sons dead and His Islamic State in ruins and in the hands of Infidels, Allah has clearly shown that Allah is not behind the attack on America. It is clearly not time for the Jihad!

This is a very serious situation, a clear clash of doctrine between the Koran and the Jihad. If Saddam had eluded capture, it would have shown that Allah is behind the Jihad, but for Saddam to be captured, and without a fight, it shows that Allahs favor is not on him.

They are going to be burning the midnight oil in the mosques tonight!!!
19 posted on 12/14/2003 9:25:36 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: SJackson
“It is a big defeat for all Arabs and Muslims,” said Raji Hassan, 29, watching TV
with friends in a Gaza City coffee shop.


It's deja vu all over again.

Just like the Syrians who sat in their coffeshop, watching the statue of Saddam
being pulled down in Baghdad.
They sat there...and did nothing.

May this sort of Arab/Muslim solidarity continue and expand.
20 posted on 12/14/2003 9:25:56 AM PST by VOA
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To: SJackson
This interview actually took place in a downtown Washington D.C. pool hall. Jayson Blair changed the name of the interviewees to make it appear he was actually in Gaza City.

"I love him so much, I can't stand watching it while he's in custody," Raafat Logman, 23 Hillary! Rodham, said as (sh)he was shooting pool. "We are surprised. We are so sad," said Sameh Aloul, 22 Tom Daschole.

21 posted on 12/14/2003 9:31:41 AM PST by jellybean (Paging Mr. Wilson....Ambassador Joseph C. Wilson...Your mint tea is ready...:))
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To: SJackson
Can just hear the democrats and pro-Saddam loyalists crying. Yippee!
22 posted on 12/14/2003 9:32:14 AM PST by lilylangtree
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To: SJackson
I KNEW before clicking on the article that it HAD to be the Palis.
23 posted on 12/14/2003 9:32:58 AM PST by Dan from Michigan ("if you wanna run cool, you got to run, on heavy heavy fuel" - Dire Straits)
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To: American in Israel
#19 is so right! Major cognitive dissonance is going on in the Arab Muslim world today.

The symbolism of being captured without a struggle in a dirt rat hole is also very powerful in destroying his Muslim mojo forever.

24 posted on 12/14/2003 9:33:38 AM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: SJackson
Men like Saddam and Noriega don't fight back. They leave that to young, deluded nut cases.
25 posted on 12/14/2003 9:34:18 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Liberalism corrupts. Absolute Liberalism corrupts absolutely.)
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To: American in Israel
If Saddam had eluded capture, it would have shown that Allah is behind the Jihad, but for Saddam to be captured, and without a fight, it shows that Allahs favor is not on him.

Interesting analysis -- do you think that this view will be widespread among arabs?

26 posted on 12/14/2003 9:38:19 AM PST by expatpat
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To: Travis McGee
#19 is so right! Major cognitive dissonance is going on in the Arab Muslim world today.
The symbolism of being captured without a struggle in a dirt rat hole is also very powerful in destroying his Muslim mojo forever.

BTTT! And Hitlery, only a few days ago, was quoted by Rush as declaring her deep dread regarding the coming onset of the Muslim 'Haj' (sp?)....

What a hoot!

27 posted on 12/14/2003 9:43:53 AM PST by O Neill (Oh we're out here havin' fun, in the warm California sun...)
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To: SJackson
“It is a big defeat for all Arabs and Muslims,” said Raji Hassan, 29,...

Get used to it.

28 posted on 12/14/2003 9:44:15 AM PST by freedomcrusader
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To: SJackson

New Poll Shows Saddam Opening a Ten Point Lead Over Howard Dean in Hew Hampshire

29 posted on 12/14/2003 9:49:32 AM PST by nickcarraway (www.terrisfight.org)
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To: O Neill
My favorite picture today: our troops in one of his palaces watching his capture.

This is really twisting the knife for the humiliated Saddamites.

30 posted on 12/14/2003 9:52:31 AM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: SJackson
,i.“I love him so much, I can’t stand watching it while he’s in custody,” Raafat Logman, 23, said as he was shooting pool. “We are surprised. We are so sad,” said Sameh Aloul, 22

Better put some ice on it, Raafat...

31 posted on 12/14/2003 9:52:51 AM PST by TheSpottedOwl (Happy Iraqi Independence Day!!!!)
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To: SJackson

Peter Arnett says:
I get dibs on the first post-capture interview with Saddam.

32 posted on 12/14/2003 9:53:17 AM PST by syriacus (Schumer's unhappy federal judges have lifetime positions, so he should work to amend that.)
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To: Gumption
Bump. Great day to be an American.
33 posted on 12/14/2003 9:55:52 AM PST by VRWC For Truth
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To: syriacus

Scott Ritter says:

"I have dibs on being the first to strip-search Saddam for hidden weapons.
That can be done quickly at my favorite fast-food establishment."

34 posted on 12/14/2003 10:00:54 AM PST by syriacus (Schumer's unhappy federal judges have lifetime positions, so he should work to amend that.)
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To: rickmichaels
'sbeen that way for a thousand years.
35 posted on 12/14/2003 10:09:11 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: CzarNicky
It's painful for leftists too.

Just as I've been thinking. It's now after 1:00 pm est, and I've yet to hear comments from the left, such as any of the Dem candidates including Hillary. Where are they?

36 posted on 12/14/2003 10:13:57 AM PST by FrdmLvr
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To: SJackson; yonif; Simcha7; American in Israel; spectacularbid2003; Binyamin; Taiwan Bocks; ...
"Saddam should have put up a fight or committed suicide, they said, and his surrender is a stain on Arab honour."

Oh yeah right! When are these people going to realize they are being misled by a bunch of posers and actors who, when the balloon goes up and the shooting starts, their real character comes out for all to see! Any simple Iraqi soldier who decided to take a stand against US Forces at the outset of this war, although certainly misguided, has more honor than Saddam!




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37 posted on 12/14/2003 10:18:31 AM PST by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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To: American in Israel
The images of the captured Saddam have great propaganda value for the US. The Arab media, read Arab gov'ts, cannot explain them away, nor can they explain all the nonsense they have been feeding their subjects after the invasion of Iraq. There may well be a religious dimension to Saddam's capture and humiliation, but the secular dimension is very, very large. Capturing Saddam has removed a great propaganda tool from the anti-US forces throughtout the region and the US, read the Demorats.
38 posted on 12/14/2003 10:32:43 AM PST by TheDon
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To: Travis McGee
Thanks for posting the great pic of our troops in the palace watching the news of Sad-dam's capture like some sort of Baghdadian Saturday Night Live. The decorated CHRISTmas tree in one of the palaces adds even more irony. Much appreciated!
39 posted on 12/14/2003 10:37:36 AM PST by O Neill (Oh we're out here havin' fun, in the warm California sun...)
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To: expatpat
Don't know what they will do, but they got some splainin to do...
40 posted on 12/14/2003 10:47:06 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: O Neill
Ain't it great!
41 posted on 12/14/2003 10:49:11 AM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: SJackson
SADDAM HUSSEIN CAPTURED

WOO-HOO, OOH-RAH, HOO-AH AND HALLELUJAH!!!

This one's for Rafat Abdulamajeed Muhammad!!!

I'm supposed to be studying...But I couldn't imagine being off FR today, a day I have waited for since 1990, for two-fifths of my life! I have wanted this bag of used bowel movement made to answer for his crimes for a very long time, and I'm holding back tears right now thinking about all those people in Hallabjah. But hey...that doesn’t mean there’s no room for humor!

A joke written by my lovely wife, Rambette66

Santa.


Bad Santa


Really, Really Bad Santa.


Woo-hoo!

42 posted on 12/14/2003 11:27:40 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Pre-empt the third murder attempt-- Pray for Terry Schiavo!)
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To: Mr. Silverback
That last guy is the WORST Santa I've ever seen! He looks like he would feed you into a wood chipper.
43 posted on 12/14/2003 11:35:17 AM PST by Sender (“We have placed them in a quagmire from which they can never emerge except dead” -Baghdad Bob)
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To: SJackson
Sad-man has let them down soo many times!

Why don't they let the free Iraqi's explain it to them?;^)
44 posted on 12/14/2003 11:41:49 AM PST by SwinneySwitch (Freedom isn't Free - Support those who ensure it!)
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To: Salem
We would get the same reaction from yasser airfart. It's OK to send the babies of the poor and miserable people which he created in order to have the murderous terrorist sheep out to die. We would never see the demented one himself take action. It's all talk and blow and no go with arafat too.

For a little frosting on the celebration cake we should take out yasser tomorrow and show the world that we are serious about ending the era of terror.
45 posted on 12/14/2003 12:46:30 PM PST by lobo59
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To: Victoria Delsoul
What a great birthday gift too.
46 posted on 12/14/2003 12:48:07 PM PST by gathersnomoss
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To: SJackson

47 posted on 12/14/2003 12:51:40 PM PST by JediJones (BAD SANTA)
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To: Salem
OH how the Mighty have fallen!! (Lice anyone?) Did ya see them picking through his hair?
49 posted on 12/14/2003 1:41:22 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South!!)
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To: JediJones
Christian Holiday cheer....

On the first day of Christmas,
My true Lord gave to me:
A grubby Saddam in an earthenware hole.

On the second day of Christmas,
My true Lord gave to me:
Two screeching Hitlery doves...
And a grubby Saddam in an earthenware hole.

On the third day of Christmas,
My true Lord gave to me:
Three mopey, biased anchormen...
Two Hitlery doves...
And a grubby Saddam in an earthenware hole!

...developing...

50 posted on 12/14/2003 3:02:41 PM PST by O Neill (Oh we're out here havin' fun, in the warm California sun...)
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