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TIME Exclusive: Notes from Saddam in Custody
TIME ^ | Dec. 14, 2003 | BRIAN BENNETT

Posted on 12/14/2003 11:52:51 AM PST by FairOpinion

Saddam is talking, but he isn't cooperative. New details on his capture and his first interrogation

Saddam Hussein was captured on Sunday without a fight. But since then, according to a U.S. intelligence official in Iraq, the fallen dictator has been defiant. “He’s not been very cooperative,” said the official, who read the transcript of the initial interrogation report taken during the first questioning session.

After his capture, Saddam was taken to a holding cell at the Baghdad Airport. He didn’t answer any of the initial questions directly, the official said, and at times seemed less than fully coherent. The transcript was full of “Saddam rhetoric type stuff,” said the official who paraphrased Saddam’s answers to some of the questions. When asked “How are you?” said the official, Saddam responded, “I am sad because my people are in bondage.” When offered a glass of water by his interrogators, Saddam replied, “If I drink water I will have to go to the bathroom and how can I use the bathroom when my people are in bondage?”

The interrogators also asked Saddam if he knew about the location of Captain Scott Speicher, a U.S. pilot who went missing during the first Gulf War. “No,” replied the former Iraqi president, “we have never kept any prisoners. I have never known what happened.”

Saddam was also asked whether Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction. “No, of course not,” he replied, according to the official, “the U.S. dreamed them up itself to have a reason to go to war with us.” The interrogator continued along this line, said the official, asking: “if you had no weapons of mass destruction then why not let the U.N. inspectors into your facilities?” Saddam’s reply: “We didn’t want them to go into the presidential areas and intrude on our privacy.”

The official is doubtful that the U.S. will get a significant amount of intelligence from Saddam’s interrogations. “I would be surprised if he gave any info,” he said. Other high-ranking regime members, he said, have by and large remained mum. “Tariq Aziz [former deputy prime minister] hasn’t really spoken,” he said, “and Abid Mahmoud [Saddam’s former personal secretary] hasn’t really given any information.”

The raid on the farm in al-Dawr, a village 15 miles from his hometown of Tikrit, initially came up empty, the official said. There was no Saddam Hussein in sight. Then one man on the property, apparently realizing the game was up, pointed out a bricked-in wall inside the basement of a small house on the property. Saddam is in there, he told the special forces operators from Task Force 121, who took down the farm with the aid of soldiers from the 1st Brigade of the Fourth Infantry Division. Saddam was bricked into his hiding place, he added. “They couldn’t get him out at first and had to dig, from either side of the hole,” said the official. The soldiers finally made a large enough passageway to drag him out. When he came out, he looked bedraggled, said the official: “He looked like a homeless man at the bus station.”

Along with the $750,000 in cash, two AK 47 machine guns and pistol found with Saddam, the U.S. intelligence official confirmed that operatives found a briefcase with Saddam that contained a letter from a Baghdad resistance leader. Contained in the message, the official said, were the minutes from a meeting of a number of resistance leaders who came together in the capital. The official said the names found on this piece of paper will be valuable and could lead to the capture of insurgency leaders around the Sunni Triangle.

The official said it may soon be clear how much command and control over the insurgency Saddam actually had while he was in hiding. “We can now determine,” he said, “if he is the mastermind of everything or not.” The official elaborated: “Have we actually cut the head of the snake or is he just an idiot hiding in a hole?”


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True or not -- this is what Time claims.
1 posted on 12/14/2003 11:52:52 AM PST by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion
Clearly, they have either captured Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton or Shiela Jackson Lee?
2 posted on 12/14/2003 11:56:27 AM PST by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: FairOpinion
It didn't take long for the Al Quaida snakes to spill the beans.
3 posted on 12/14/2003 11:56:37 AM PST by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (So it it said......so it is written.)
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To: FairOpinion
How did TIME get all this 'Info'... ?
It all happened just hours ago.

Sounds fishy.
4 posted on 12/14/2003 11:56:44 AM PST by traumer (Even paranoids have enemies)
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To: FairOpinion
The official elaborated: "Have we actually cut the head of the snake or is he just an idiot hiding in a hole?"

Are the two mutually exclusive?

5 posted on 12/14/2003 11:56:47 AM PST by NittanyLion
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To: Dog
According to Time magazine, Saddam has already been asked about our pilot.
6 posted on 12/14/2003 11:58:03 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: FairOpinion
Serious Question: How gentle do we have to be with the interrogation process? Does he have a right to an attorney during questioning?


Too bad, we can't bring in Lt. Col. West (God Bless Him).

7 posted on 12/14/2003 11:58:59 AM PST by undergroundwarrior
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To: FairOpinion
Serious Question: How gentle do we have to be with the interrogation process? Does he have a right to an attorney during questioning?


Too bad, we can't bring in Lt. Col. West (God Bless Him).

8 posted on 12/14/2003 11:59:01 AM PST by undergroundwarrior
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To: FairOpinion
“No, of course not,” he replied, according to the official, “the U.S. dreamed them up itself to have a reason to go to war with us.”

Proof enough for leftists like Red Howard and DU.com. They now 'know' they were right all along.

9 posted on 12/14/2003 11:59:04 AM PST by Petronski (Can you hear the carpenters, Saddam? They're building a gallows.)
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To: FairOpinion
“He’s not been very cooperative,”

Leave it the professional reporting of Time to paint such a descriptive image of Hussein with such a concise newsworthy tidbit .

10 posted on 12/14/2003 11:59:13 AM PST by Cvengr (0:^))
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To: FairOpinion
One has to doubt the veracity of these published accounts of classified intelligence interrogations. Who's going to be feeding Time this sort of info unless it were a psy-war campaign of some kind?
11 posted on 12/14/2003 11:59:23 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: FairOpinion
The official elaborated: “Have we actually cut the head of the snake or is he just an idiot hiding in a hole?”

HAHAHAHA! Man, I wish the NY Post would have that as their title tomorrow in the paper on the front page!

12 posted on 12/14/2003 11:59:44 AM PST by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: FairOpinion
“How are you?” said the official, Saddam responded, “I am sad because my people are in bondage.” When offered a glass of water by his interrogators, Saddam replied, “If I drink water I will have to go to the bathroom and how can I use the bathroom when my people are in bondage?”

Clearly, one of the great criminal minds of our time.

13 posted on 12/14/2003 11:59:51 AM PST by Steel Wolf (There's a fine line between fishing and just standing on the shore like an idiot.)
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To: FairOpinion
Usual Time B.S. I doubt that anyone connected with his interrofation would talk to Time..Maybe they got this doodoo from the jailer.

On Fox they reported the soldiers guarding him could not wait to turn him over because he would not stop talking.
14 posted on 12/14/2003 12:00:10 PM PST by the Real fifi
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To: traumer
How did TIME get all this 'Info'... ? It all happened just hours ago

Im sure Saddam was captured yesterday...not this morning

15 posted on 12/14/2003 12:00:31 PM PST by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: FairOpinion
There is no way I'd believe that Time got their hands on any kind of interrogation. Our military knows what traitors they are and they simply would not give them access to anything unless it was disinformation.
16 posted on 12/14/2003 12:01:54 PM PST by McGavin999
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To: FairOpinion
Shoot a gun off right next his head. Then get closer and closer......one mustache hair at a time.

Leni

17 posted on 12/14/2003 12:02:22 PM PST by MinuteGal (Florida Freepers! Go to Fla. chapter forum for important announcements on chapter re-organization!)
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To: FairOpinion
The official is doubtful that the U.S. will get a significant amount of intelligence from Saddam’s interrogations.

Don't we have some pharmaceuticals that will help?

18 posted on 12/14/2003 12:02:35 PM PST by Bubba_Leroy
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To: Lazamataz
When offered a glass of water by his interrogators, Saddam replied, “If I drink water I will have to go to the bathroom and how can I use the bathroom when my people are in bondage?

I can't even think of a comment...

19 posted on 12/14/2003 12:05:19 PM PST by Cogadh na Sith (The Guns of Brixton)
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To: traumer
Sounds like they made it up. Gen. Odinero said Saddam was very talkative, very cooperative. I'd believe him over Time.
20 posted on 12/14/2003 12:05:53 PM PST by kylaka
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To: FairOpinion
i'm starting to think we would have all been a lot better off if he was brought out dead. It does no good to allow him to continue to spew his propoganda for the next 20 years or so.
21 posted on 12/14/2003 12:05:54 PM PST by fourhorsemen
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To: FairOpinion
Does it appear from this story that Time has a reporter on the Saddam interrogation team?

Either that or Time was selected by the Pentagon to get this special inside information about the interrogation of Saddam.
Do you belive that? I don't either.

22 posted on 12/14/2003 12:06:45 PM PST by edwin hubble
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To: FairOpinion
Leftist wishful drivel. TIME is just trying to bolster the spirits of the faithful in the wake of their latest defeat. No Intelligence official is going to tell TIME this kind of stuff, especially a few hours after he was captured.
23 posted on 12/14/2003 12:07:25 PM PST by thatdewd
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To: FairOpinion
Saddam was bricked into his hiding place, he added. “They couldn’t get him out at first and had to dig, from either side of the hole,” said the official. The soldiers finally made a large enough passageway to drag him out...

Along with the $750,000 in cash, two AK 47 machine guns and pistol found with Saddam, the U.S. intelligence official confirmed that operatives found a briefcase with Saddam that contained a letter from a Baghdad resistance leader.

Well, if the liberals insist we're too cruel to Saddam, maybe we should just return him back to his hole, brick him back in and cover it up with dirt again.

This way, they get their wishes and we get ours and Saddam gets to live by himself a very wealthy man.

Makes you wonder if he didn't sell his soul for the promise of meeting his demise as a very wealthy man.

24 posted on 12/14/2003 12:08:26 PM PST by Cvengr (0:^))
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To: FairOpinion
It's a shame we have to dignify this thug by giving him a forum. Send him back to a hole with the mice and rats.
25 posted on 12/14/2003 12:08:30 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: Bubba_Leroy
Since this story is (a) from Time, (b) too fast, and (c) too sensitive, it must be disinfo passed on to a gullible reporter.

Right about now I suspect they're getting ready to administer Saddam's new preseciption for sodium pentothal.

I'd also guess that all the captured HVTs have been talking.

26 posted on 12/14/2003 12:09:20 PM PST by angkor
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To: FairOpinion
"How can I use the bathroom when my people are in bondage?”

When you gotta go, you gotta go. Let my people go! :-)

27 posted on 12/14/2003 12:10:27 PM PST by Loyalist (Conservative Party of Canada: A truly progressive alliance!)
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To: chookter
When offered a glass of water by his interrogators, Saddam replied, “If I drink water I will have to go to the bathroom and how can I use the bathroom when my people are in bondage?

Oh my. He must have an uberbladder. He hasn't gone for nine months!

I'm picturing Saddam needs to walk around with a wheelbarrow in front of him.

28 posted on 12/14/2003 12:10:43 PM PST by Lazamataz (A poem, by Lazamataz: "What do we do with Saddam, Now that we gottim?")
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To: fourhorsemen
"spew his propoganda for the next 20 years or so."

Yup, and the NYT will be there to print every word and probably add a few of their own.

29 posted on 12/14/2003 12:11:33 PM PST by Bringbackthedraft (Hillary 2004 Its in the works for sure, just watch! She is the best they can do.)
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To: the Real fifi
... unless Hillary or Rockefeller were the sources. Anything to lower the morale of American service men and women.
30 posted on 12/14/2003 12:11:49 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: FairOpinion
The Noo Yawk Times and Time Magazine are in a rush to see who can squander their credibility the fastest.
31 posted on 12/14/2003 12:12:33 PM PST by Lazamataz (A poem, by Lazamataz: "What do we do with Saddam, Now that we gottim?")
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To: thatdewd
No Intelligence official is going to tell TIME this kind of stuff, especially a few hours after he was captured.

Agreed, this story is simply not credible.

32 posted on 12/14/2003 12:12:38 PM PST by angkor
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To: Bringbackthedraft
We're still waiting for the Times to write a word about the gulags of the Soviet Union.
33 posted on 12/14/2003 12:13:02 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: FairOpinion
I'm posting the following with reservations, source unknown:

Saddam Was Hiding or was in Captivity?

. . . A number of questions are raised by the incredibly bedraggled, tired and crushed condition of this once savage, dapper and pampered ruler who was discovered in a hole in the ground on Saturday, December 13:

1. The length and state of his hair indicated he had not seen a barber or even had a shampoo for several weeks.

2. The wild state of his beard indicated he had not shaved for the same period

3. The hole dug in the floor of a cellar in a farm compound near Tikrit was primitive indeed – 6ft across and 8ft across with minimal sanitary arrangements - a far cry from his opulent palaces.

4. Saddam looked beaten and hungry.

5. Detained with him were two unidentified men, two AK-47 assault guns and a pistol, none of which were used.

6. The hole had only one opening. It was not only camouflaged with mud and bricks – it was blocked. He could not have climbed out without someone on the outside removing the covering.

7. And most important, $750,000 in 100-dollar notes were found with him – but no communications equipment of any kind, whether cell phone or even a carrier pigeon for contacting the outside world.

According to analysts, these seven anomalies point to one conclusion: Saddam Hussein was not in hiding; he was a prisoner. . . .





34 posted on 12/14/2003 12:13:02 PM PST by Mihalis
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To: FairOpinion
So, OK? Was one of the two body guards captured with Saddam a Time reporter?
35 posted on 12/14/2003 12:15:35 PM PST by armymarinemom (My Son Liberated the Honor Roll Students in Iraq)
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To: McGavin999
There is no way I'd believe that Time got their hands on any kind of interrogation. Our military knows what traitors they are and they simply would not give them access to anything unless it was disinformation.

Saddam is spilling his guts on where the Fedayeen hiding places are, and our side doesn't want them to make a run for it until we have them surrounded

36 posted on 12/14/2003 12:16:23 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (Happiness is a belt-fed weapon)
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To: edwin hubble
typo in my #22 = believe

"Do you believe that? I don't either."
37 posted on 12/14/2003 12:17:02 PM PST by edwin hubble
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To: FairOpinion
Saddam replied, “If I drink water I will have to go to the bathroom and how can I use the bathroom when my people are in bondage?”

Saddam: "Let my people go!"

-PJ

38 posted on 12/14/2003 12:17:15 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's not safe yet to vote Democrat.)
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To: FairOpinion
When offered a glass of water by his interrogators, Saddam replied, “If I drink water I will have to go to the bathroom and how can I use the bathroom when my people are in bondage?”

The man is a Loon

39 posted on 12/14/2003 12:18:23 PM PST by Mo1 (House Work, If you do it right , will kill you!)
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To: FairOpinion
let the truth serum injections begin! worst case, he dies, no problem.
40 posted on 12/14/2003 12:18:55 PM PST by oceanview
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To: the Real fifi
Usual Time B.S. I doubt that anyone connected with his interrofation would talk to Time

I'm not believing anything until its posted by Newsmax.com.

41 posted on 12/14/2003 12:18:56 PM PST by Doe Eyes
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To: FairOpinion
Who will be Time's Person of the Year, Bush or Saddam?
42 posted on 12/14/2003 12:19:51 PM PST by Atlantian
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To: Mihalis
Saddam Hussein was not in hiding; he was a prisoner.

I know you posted it reluctantly. However there's nothing there to support the conclusion that he was a prisoner.

I recall a post from some time ago (a month? 2 months?) stating that Saddam was riding around Baghdad in a taxi and was sporting a full beard.

43 posted on 12/14/2003 12:19:53 PM PST by angkor
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To: Mihalis
According to analysts, these seven anomalies point to one conclusion: Saddam Hussein was not in hiding; he was a prisoner. . . .

Perhaps his "followers" realized that Saddam would cut any sort of deal to save his butt, including selling out all his followers.

44 posted on 12/14/2003 12:20:19 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (Happiness is a belt-fed weapon)
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To: FairOpinion
“If I drink water I will have to go to the bathroom and how can I use the bathroom when my people are in bondage?”

The Mother of All Pee Breaks looms!

He ain't been since the Coalition invaded!

45 posted on 12/14/2003 12:21:04 PM PST by Ole Okie (Sooners, get those Cajuns! And stick a finger in the eye of USC whiners.)
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To: FairOpinion
I never believed that, short of torture, we'd get much out of Saddam. The intelligence boon, if there is one, will come from Iraqis who will feel free to come forward and tell what they know now that they no longer fear Saddam's retribution.
46 posted on 12/14/2003 12:21:15 PM PST by squidly
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To: FairOpinion
Yeah right. Saddam's gonna talk. He's a coward. Even Hitler took his own life.

He'll tell us whatever we want to know if we spare him the death penalty.

Saddam's in a LOT of TROUBLE. We can help him though.

We just need him to answer a few thousand questions.
47 posted on 12/14/2003 12:21:50 PM PST by Smogger
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To: squidly
I never believed that, short of torture, we'd get much out of Saddam.

I doubt torture will be necessary. He'll talk to save his own skin.

48 posted on 12/14/2003 12:22:33 PM PST by Smogger
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To: Mihalis
whose prisoner? why does a prisoner need $750K in cash? and what prisoner carries a pistol?
49 posted on 12/14/2003 12:23:32 PM PST by oceanview
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To: Mihalis
Uh oh....there's the new spin. Bush has kept Saddam buried in a hole for months and pretended to capture him in time to help his re-election campaign. What to place bets?
50 posted on 12/14/2003 12:23:45 PM PST by WVNan
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