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Gingrey (R-GA, 11) interested in FR, and in law restoring free speech
Meeting | 12-14-2003 | Robert A Cook

Posted on 12/14/2003 1:34:28 PM PST by Robert A Cook PE

Spoke briefly with Congressman Phil Gingrey (R, GA-11th) after church today.

http://www.house.gov/gingrey/

Gingrey is a OB-Gyn physician, a first-time conservative Congressman from a democratic gerry-mandered district spreading through democratic regions in west GA and metro Atlanta.

(1) I asked him to sponsor legistlation REMOVING the free-speech restrictions imposed under McCain-Feingold. He thought it was a good idea, but didn't know how much other Congressional support there would be.

Therefore: CONTACT YOUR CONGRESSMAN AND CREATE SOME SUPPORT for removal of this section of the law.

Constitutionally, even though the vast majority of the bill has been upheld by the Court (thanks to liberal judges demanded by the Senate!), there is no reason the single section restricting free speech can't be also removed by a second law. The Constitution doesn't have a clause IMPOSING restrictions (yet!), so a law removing ("illegally-declared-but-liberally-declared-constitutional") restrictions should be "legal."

Further, this would FORCE the liberals (in Congress, in the press, and on the courts!) to visibly oppose free speech by publically opposing a law that explicitly restores free speech!

Removing the "money" talking points, and the other dnc-focus points of McCain Feingold from the discussion may get this bill through since it would be targetted ONLY at the 60-day advertising limits - if not in this session, maybe in the next.

Best? Sure; completely remove McCain-Feingold. But it won't happen in today's media climate, given the power this yields to the "national press corpse". So we shouldn't weight down a "possibly-successful" bill with dreams of revoking the whole thing.

It is at least a step to remove this clause. After all, even the whole Amendment invoking Prohibition was removed!

(2) Write, call, or email Gingrey's office(s) local and naitonal to support this bill.

Since it's not proposed yet, we need to show Phil that free speech is supported at the grass roots level. His office, frakly, will listen mostly to GA constituents, but evry call will help!

(3) He is interested in what we discuss here, in how widely-read the Free Republic site is, and how much more thorough we are than "the natioinal press corpse" who slavishly repeated only what they read from the dnc's faux fax sheet. When he expressed an interest in Free republic, I invited him to register and contribute (or at a minmum read along silently) to protect his public persona.

But, he needs a login-id.

So, I'm asking you respond to his web-site above and do three things: Thank him for supporting Bush in his war on terror;

Ask to submit his bill lifting restrictions on politcal speech imposed by the liberal press and the democrats,

Warmly welcome him to Free Republic, and recommend a screen name for FreeRepublic.com


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: banglist; freespeech; ga; gingrey; mccainfeingold; restrictions
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
We need to make the public aware that the Supreme Court is not infalible and also that they have reversed the opinions of earlier Supreme Courts.

Raise a stink over this issue and pressure will be made to bear.

21 posted on 12/14/2003 5:46:00 PM PST by weegee
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To: weegee; floriduh voter; Alamo-Girl; MHGinTN
CONCUR!

My (only) bumper sticker reads:

"Abortion?
The Supreme Court also said Slavery was legal!"

Guess now I've got to "amend it" to include CFR!

22 posted on 12/14/2003 6:10:48 PM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only support FR by donating monthly, but ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
Well said.

Understand that I am not knocking the effort to regain some of our constitutional rights; I would just like to see even more being done (Big Media still holds their power position so they are keeping quiet).

23 posted on 12/14/2003 6:16:03 PM PST by weegee
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE; All
That's a very good idea. Can someone bump the people with the ping lists?
24 posted on 12/14/2003 7:08:53 PM PST by GulliverSwift (Howard Dean is the Joker's insane twin brother.)
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To: Lazamataz
Yours is better than mine....
25 posted on 12/14/2003 7:40:12 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
Done! Thanks, Robert. Hope our response (and Saddam's capture) encourages Rep. Gingrey (and other allied Republicans working in DC) to take on our domestic enemies.
26 posted on 12/14/2003 7:42:02 PM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl ( "Our military is full of the finest people on the face of the earth." ~ Pres. Bush, Baghdad)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
I was invited to give a speech to an annual dinner of strict constructionists on the Constitution, a couple decades ago in Salt Lake City. I began this way (which is the absolute truth):

"A friend of mine in Washington who is a former nun and a chief staff member for Eugene McCarthy, said we should repeal the entire Constitution, starting with the words 'We the People' through to the signatures." [I paused, and there was a sharp intake of breath by every person in the room. Then I continued....]

"Then, she said we should pass it again, exactly as it is, but add one line: 'This time we MEAN it.' " [There was an explosion of both laughter and applause.]

The point is that the necesary reform is not just to straighten out this particular blunder by the Supreme Court. It is to stgraighten out a lot of bad decisions by the Court, and furthermore, its approach to all future cases. The Court needs to be told, by the express words of the Constitution, that it MUST obey the Constitution until and unless the Constitution is amended by the people as provided in Article V.

THAT is the proper remedy. Anything less is merely wheel-spinning, and I doubt that necessary reform would pass through this Congress as an Amendment, to go out to the states for ratification.

Congressman Billybob

Click here for discussion thread on latest column, "In Praise of Bigotry."

27 posted on 12/14/2003 7:42:03 PM PST by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com Visit. Join. Help. Please.)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
I replied to the pings, before I read the thread. I thought the Congressman was trying to cure the constitutional problem generally, rather than merely to cure the ad ban problem. I fully approve of his idea of removing the 30- and 60-day ad bans from the CFR law by act of Congress. Given that more than 100,000 groups of Americans on every part of the political spectrum have a potential stake in this issue, it can and should succeed.

My previous post on this thread concerns the large issue of correcting the constitutional problem. This Congressman is not attempting to do that, now, so belay my previous post.

John / Billybob

28 posted on 12/14/2003 7:48:41 PM PST by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com Visit. Join. Help. Please.)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
It should be called
"The Free Speech Restoration Act of 2004"

Who'd go on record opposing that?
(Besides the likes of Chuckie Schumer, that is)
29 posted on 12/15/2003 5:59:17 AM PST by Redbob (this space reserved for witty remarks)
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To: Lazamataz
This should be posted to Valin's daily CFR reform thread.

As you know; "Until changed by the authentic act of the whole people, the Constitution is sacredly obligatory upon all." -- George Washington

30 posted on 12/15/2003 6:05:20 AM PST by thesummerwind (like painted kites, those days and nights, they went flyin' by)
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To: thesummerwind
Concur.

But the democrats wanted to restrict criticism, didn't they?

Unless they, the 60's (criminals) trespassers, protesters, and rioters, were doing the criticizing!
31 posted on 12/15/2003 6:23:41 AM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only support FR by donating monthly, but ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: No More Gore Anymore
Yours is better than mine.... Yours is so 1999.
32 posted on 12/15/2003 7:16:14 AM PST by Naspino (I am in no way associated with the views expressed in your posts.)
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To: Lazamataz
Everybody's got a cool screen name but me. :o(

Your reminds me of a John Travolta song.

33 posted on 12/15/2003 7:21:24 AM PST by smith288 ("The United States has a system of taxation by confession." - Hugo Black,Supreme Court Justice)
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To: Naspino
"Yours is better than mine.... Yours is so 1999"

No kidding. I would change it, but I don't want to look like a newbie for heavens sake....

34 posted on 12/15/2003 7:24:51 AM PST by Diva Betsy Ross
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To: No More Gore Anymore
No kidding. I would change it, but I don't want to look like a newbie for heavens sake....

I know -- taking on a new screen name means at least five or six people calling you a troll.

35 posted on 12/15/2003 7:27:26 AM PST by Naspino (I am in no way associated with the views expressed in your posts.)
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To: smith288; buffyt
Your reminds me of a John Travolta song.

That's why buffyt likes me.

Cuz I remind her of John Travolta.

36 posted on 12/15/2003 7:28:13 AM PST by Lazamataz (A poem, by Lazamataz: "What do we do with Saddam, Now that we gottim?")
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE; bert
Yes, the Dems. and others wanted to restrict speech! But did you notice, what I think is just as big a problem as the political creatures - the absolute silence of analysis and criticism of this abomination (decision) by the lamestream media. The media and the politicians work hand in hand! It stinks.
37 posted on 12/15/2003 8:01:54 AM PST by thesummerwind (like painted kites, those days and nights, they went flyin' by)
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To: Naspino
Well I get called a troll by 5-6 people at a time for trying to defend the Constitution.. so not much would change there...
38 posted on 12/15/2003 8:02:08 AM PST by Diva Betsy Ross
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
How about "NoOrrrrrdinaryPolitician" as a Screen Name? ;0)
39 posted on 12/15/2003 8:36:27 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks (What am I rebelling against? Well, what do ya got?)
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To: No More Gore Anymore
Actually, I think you should take pride in your screen name - It reminds us all of what could have been, and how thankful we should be... ;0)
40 posted on 12/15/2003 8:38:39 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks (What am I rebelling against? Well, what do ya got?)
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