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Daily Campaign Finance Reform thread-day 5

Posted on 12/15/2003 6:06:04 AM PST by Valin

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1 posted on 12/15/2003 6:06:06 AM PST by Valin
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To: Valin
Yesterdays Thread
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1040115/posts
2 posted on 12/15/2003 6:07:11 AM PST by Valin (We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give.)
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To: Valin; RiflemanSharpe; Lazamataz; proud American in Canada; Congressman Billybob; backhoe; ...
If you would like to be on or off this ping list please let me no.

3 posted on 12/15/2003 6:09:07 AM PST by Valin (We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give.)
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To: Valin; *CFR List
Ping
4 posted on 12/15/2003 6:12:04 AM PST by Valin (We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give.)
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To: Valin
I would like to be on it please.
5 posted on 12/15/2003 6:15:52 AM PST by Smile-n-Win (Compassion for your enemies is a betrayal of your friends.)
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To: Smile-n-Win
No!

We just took a vote and it was decided that we don't want you. :-)
6 posted on 12/15/2003 6:20:24 AM PST by Valin (We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give.)
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To: Valin
I'm really proud you are doing this thread. I hope it continues until our rights are restored.

I had a mild reaction to the news of Saddam. I think highly of the military and expected his capture back in April. But I never, in my worst dreams expected the SC to rule against free speach. I am scared.

After a day of brainstorming, the only route I see is to sell conservative values so we can restore a fair judiciary. Appartently this country is not a collection of laws and a constitution. It is a collection of people who uphold laws. And if good people aren't in-charge, anything can happen.
7 posted on 12/15/2003 6:31:09 AM PST by Vision
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To: Valin
Aha, now I see why it's spelled "let me no" ! :-)
8 posted on 12/15/2003 6:41:01 AM PST by Smile-n-Win (Compassion for your enemies is a betrayal of your friends.)
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To: Vision
And if good people aren't in-charge, anything can happen.

Correct.

And, I might add, it can also happen when a combination of bad people and good but "compassionate" people are in charge. I think President Bush is fundamentally a very good man, but he is tragically mistaken about the morality of "compassion." See my tagline.

9 posted on 12/15/2003 6:45:56 AM PST by Smile-n-Win (Compassion for your enemies is a betrayal of your friends.)
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To: Valin
...It is noteworthy to briefly consider just what manner of state this court perceives America to be,...

They percieve correctly that we are in Post-Republic America.

As that becomes ever more obvious,even to the sheeple, they will have to go after the second amendment with a vengeance.

The revised version of the AWB will be blatantly anti-Constitutional and comprehensive. Bush will sign it saying he has "some reservations" and the bots will claim he's "out strategerizing the left again and it will be overturned at the SCOTUS so shut up, you one-issue malcontents and where you going to go anyway?"
10 posted on 12/15/2003 6:51:45 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: Valin
If you would like to be on or off this ping list please let me no.

Please put me down as a 'no' as well ;o)

11 posted on 12/15/2003 6:59:33 AM PST by 4CJ ('Scots vie 4 tavern juices' - anagram by paulklenk, 22 Nov 2003)
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To: Smile-n-Win
What with an election season coming up we are provided with a golden opportunity to hold our rep./senators feet to the fire.
The candidates are going to be coming around to hold "townhall meetings" to speak to us and (more important) listen to what we have to say. What we need to do is demand they repeal this law, or at a minimum amend it(if possible, which I doubt). Also I'd recommend letters, not e-mails but actual hand written letters. For what I understand every letter is considered to be worth 10,000 votes. It really doesn't matter if you (like me) have a leftist as your rep. many groups on the left don't like this law either.
12 posted on 12/15/2003 7:07:16 AM PST by Valin (We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give.)
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To: Valin
BTTT
13 posted on 12/15/2003 8:14:13 AM PST by King Black Robe (With freedom of religion and speech now abridged, it is time to go after the press.)
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To: Valin
ON!
14 posted on 12/15/2003 8:39:11 AM PST by international american
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To: Valin
From yesterday
Gingrey (R-GA, 11) interested in FR, and in law restoring free speech
Meeting | 12-14-2003 | Robert A Cook
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1040281/posts


15 posted on 12/15/2003 9:11:11 AM PST by Valin (We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give.)
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To: Vision
"But I never, in my worst dreams expected the SC to rule against free speach. I am scared."

I never expected it either. What a shock!

But I think we can make a repeal of that portion happen.
16 posted on 12/15/2003 4:29:58 PM PST by proud American in Canada
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Hi, Valin,
Thank you so much for this daily thread, the most important I've ever posted on, because I believe that together, we can make a difference.

I don't know why, but all weekend, I couldn't log on to FR. Every time I tried the computer crashed. I can't believe I missed the official FR reaction to the capture of Saddam! :(

Anyway, on Saturday I sent the following letter to the Denver Post; I sent it today to the Washington Times. I encourage anyone who is interested to cut, paste, modify and send it to your local paper.

And in some ways, the smaller the paper, the better. First, it would increase the chances it would be published, and people need to understand how important this right is, that it affects people regardless of party affiliation, and second, in a smaller paper, you can put in the phone # of the local congressional rep. Perhaps people will call.

here it is:

Dear Editor:

Contrary to the expectations of just about everyone in the country, perhaps even of the President who signed the bill, the Supreme Court has upheld Campaign Finance Reform.

Although the name of the bill is deceptively attractive-who doesn't want "reform"?--the law it embodies is a direct attack on the most fundamental right all Americans hold--the right to political free speech. No longer can groups of citizens purchase, in the 60 days prior to a general election, radio or t.v. time that criticizes a politician.

The freedom to express political opinions is at the heart of all other freedoms. That is why the Founders put it in the First Amendment. We cannot have the right to privacy, the right to keep and bear arms, the right to be free of unlawful searches and seizures, without the right to challenge the politicians who govern us.

Indeed, many have described this law as the "Incumbent Protection Act," for it makes it very difficult for incumbents to be held accountable for their voting record. In today's sound-bite world, 60 days is a lifetime.

That is why I have sent a letter to Rep. Tom Tancredo, asking him to present a bill, on the very first day that Congress meets in January, to repeal this odious law. I hope that other congressional representatives join in this endeavor, for this issue rises above party.

Every American--Democrat, Republican, Green, Libertarian, whatever--who cares about the right to speak freely on a political issue should demand that this law be repealed--and repealed immediately.

__________________

p.s., now that we're talking about just repealing a certain portion (more effective, imo), then modify the letter as needed.
17 posted on 12/15/2003 4:35:49 PM PST by proud American in Canada
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To: Valin
Thank you.

But, to be effective, your letters (emails/phonecalls) havce to happen.
18 posted on 12/15/2003 4:42:31 PM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only support FR by donating monthly, but ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
WHAT! You mean you can't just think about writing a letter.
WOW What a radical concept! ACTUALLY writing the letter.


That's why ever letter is considered to be 10,000 vote. It's assumed that for every letter recieved there are 10,000 others out there who feel the same way.
19 posted on 12/15/2003 8:38:18 PM PST by Valin (We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give.)
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To: proud American in Canada
But I think we can make a repeal of that portion happen.

Let's get it going.
20 posted on 12/15/2003 8:53:04 PM PST by Vision
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