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Saddam's No 2 may have surrendered to coalition forces in Iraq: Kuwait TV
Kuwati TV ^ | 16 December 2003 | AFP

Posted on 12/16/2003 4:51:25 AM PST by 11th_VA

KUWAIT CITY : Saddam Hussein's fugitive number two, Izzat Ibrahim al-Duri, may have surrendered to US-led coalition forces in Iraq, Kuwait Television reported on Tuesday, quoting its correspondent in Baghdad.

The correspondent said on air that "the information is not confirmed and is confusing." He said that according to the information, Duri had given himself up on Tuesday morning and that no more details were available.

An official at Kuwait Television later told AFP that the station's correspondent was quoting Iraqi sources that had told him Duri had surrendered.

Number six on the US wartime list of most wanted Iraqi officials, Duri is now the highest-ranking official of the former regime still at large.

He has a US$10 million bounty on his head.

Ousted Iraqi president Saddam Hussein was captured by US forces near his hometown of Tikrit on Saturday. - AFP


TOPICS: Front Page News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alduri; iraq; mostwanted; saddam; viceisclosed
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1 posted on 12/16/2003 4:51:25 AM PST by 11th_VA
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To: 11th_VA
More fallout from the intelligence windfall in Saddam's briefcase?

But Saddam wasn't doing anything to direct the guerrilla campaign. Just like there was no connection between Saddam and 9/11.
2 posted on 12/16/2003 4:56:48 AM PST by FreedomPoster (this space intentionally blank)
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To: 11th_VA; William McKinley; JohnHuang2; Dog
A coworker just told me this. Fantastic news if true. He's the one suspected of masterminding some or all of the insurgent attacks.
3 posted on 12/16/2003 4:56:57 AM PST by Coop (God bless our troops!)
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To: 11th_VA
Merry Christmas!
4 posted on 12/16/2003 4:57:20 AM PST by The Mayor (If God could Vote, he would vote with the Right wing conspiracy)
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To: 11th_VA
the information is not confirmed and is confusing.

However if true, definitely a Merry Christmas!

5 posted on 12/16/2003 5:00:32 AM PST by InShanghai (I was born on the crest of a wave, and rocked in the cradle of the deep.)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl; boxerblues; mystery-ak; Vets_Husband_and_Wife; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; ...
Still unconfirmed, but fingers crossed.
6 posted on 12/16/2003 5:01:35 AM PST by Coop (God bless our troops!)
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To: F14 Pilot; nuconvert
Good news ping
7 posted on 12/16/2003 5:06:39 AM PST by Pan_Yans Wife ("Your joy is your sorrow unmasked." --- GIBRAN)
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To: Coop
Your coworker is? My advice to you is to avoid him then. ;-)
8 posted on 12/16/2003 5:07:52 AM PST by William McKinley
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To: 11th_VA
The jig is up.

Cheese it, the cops.

Like rats leaving a sinking ship--or Ba'ath tub.
9 posted on 12/16/2003 5:09:23 AM PST by Forgiven_Sinner (Praying for the Kingdom of God.)
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To: 11th_VA
Not verified yet?
10 posted on 12/16/2003 5:09:35 AM PST by smith288 ("The United States has a system of taxation by confession." - Hugo Black,Supreme Court Justice)
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To: smith288
Not verified yet?

Can't be verified until after the shampoo is done....to see if there's a redhead there.

11 posted on 12/16/2003 5:12:10 AM PST by ErnBatavia (Taglineus Interruptus)
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To: William McKinley
LOL
12 posted on 12/16/2003 5:12:46 AM PST by verity
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To: smith288
This would be great if true.
13 posted on 12/16/2003 5:14:23 AM PST by MEG33
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To: William McKinley
And give up my source? Never!
14 posted on 12/16/2003 5:14:48 AM PST by Coop (God bless our troops!)
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To: ErnBatavia

Unless its shaved...

15 posted on 12/16/2003 5:15:00 AM PST by smith288 ("The United States has a system of taxation by confession." - Hugo Black,Supreme Court Justice)
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To: Coop; Mo1; Calpernia; Wait4Truth; TruthNtegrity
If true, it just keeps getting better and better.

Ping!
16 posted on 12/16/2003 5:23:07 AM PST by prairiebreeze (Rejoice in the love God has shown by sending His Son to live among us and in our hearts.)
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To: 11th_VA; Lazamataz
The look on Al-Qaetie Couric's face when she has to report on this will be grim, very grim.
17 posted on 12/16/2003 5:23:37 AM PST by PJ-Comix (Ladies and Gentlemen....WE GOT HIM!!!)
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To: Peach
ringy, pingy
18 posted on 12/16/2003 5:24:45 AM PST by prairiebreeze (Rejoice in the love God has shown by sending His Son to live among us and in our hearts.)
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To: FreedomPoster
.

'Remember the Lost and Suffering on September 11, 2001'

http://TheAlamoFILM.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=33

.
19 posted on 12/16/2003 5:25:07 AM PST by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.com)
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To: 11th_VA
Fox News now reporting this.
20 posted on 12/16/2003 5:26:11 AM PST by Starrgaizr
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To: 11th_VA
Izzat Ibrahim al-Duri aka Krusty the Clown. Some have said he resembles Krusty the Clown. I hope there is a future episode of The Simpsons where Krusty visits Iraq on a USO tour and gets mistaken for Izzat Ibrahim al-Duri. Meanwhile Izzat Ibrahim al-Duri makes himself look like Krusty and takes his place on the USO tour.

Izzat Ibrahim al-Krusti?

21 posted on 12/16/2003 5:26:54 AM PST by PJ-Comix (Ladies and Gentlemen....WE GOT HIM!!!)
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To: PJ-Comix
Is this the guy who was supposedly co-ordinating the attacks?
22 posted on 12/16/2003 5:27:08 AM PST by 50sDad ("You used ALL THE GLUE on PURPOSE! It's a MAJOR AWARD!")
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To: 11th_VA
I found this:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,105877,00.html

Report: Papers Link Saddam to al-Douri

Tuesday, December 16, 2003



WASHINGTON — Secret papers found in Saddam Hussein's (search) hiding place reveal that he had regular contact with the leader of the terrorists who oppose the U.S. presence in Iraq, military officials told The Post.



The papers prove Saddam communicated with Izzat Ibrahim al Douri (search), his former deputy in the Ba'ath Party - the political organization behind his reign of terror.

Details were sketchy, but the documents show Saddam was more deeply involved in the resistance than previously believed, the officials said.

And the farm complex in Adwar where Saddam was found hiding in a "spider hole" Saturday may have been a terrorist meeting spot.

People coming to see Saddam could get there by boat on the nearby Tigris River (search), the official said.

Saddam's communication with al-Douri is just part of a treasure trove of secrets found at the hiding place - which led yesterday to the arrests of two key Iraqi terror leaders.

U.S. officials said that crucial documents, found in the Butcher of Baghdad's briefcase, included a list of six names, including two financiers, two bomb makers, and the two arrested resistance leaders, described as distant relatives of Saddam.

The documents also detailed the structure and financing of eight to 12 vicious terror cells around Baghdad - of which the U.S. had known little.

The information should bring more arrests in the coming days, said officials.

"Some were things we already knew about and we just needed the intel to go after them. I think we'll get some significant intelligence over the next couple of days," said Gen. Mark Hertling of the Army's 1st Armored Division.

Uncovering Saddam's involvement with and knowledge of recent Ba'athist death-squad activities remains the first priority of CIA agents interrogating Saddam.

"I'm sure he was giving some guidance to some key figures in this insurgency. When you take down a mob boss, you don't know how much is going to come out of it," Hertling told reporters.

But so far, Saddam remains grumpy and uncooperative, sources said, spending much of Day 2 of his sessions with the CIA refusing to say much beyond "rote" political rhetoric.

"He's been fairly defiant," an official told Fox News. "While he's talkative, he's provided nothing substantial. His comments are self-serving, lengthy rationalizations of his behavior, and he punctuates a lot of it with wise-ass and deflective remarks."

When he was first found, Saddam immediately offered to negotiate, according to some reports.

Saddam, who was initially interviewed at a secure holding facility at the Baghdad International Airport, has been taken to a secret location inside Iraq.

According to U.S. officials briefed on the interrogation sessions, the ex-tyrant has gone through a series of wild mood swings since being captured on Saturday.

He was first reported to be "bewildered" and "disoriented" when he arrived in Baghdad.

But after a shower and nap on an army cot, he was defiant as he met with members of Iraq's governing body, claiming he was a "fair and just" ruler and that people found in mass graves were "thieves and army deserters."

"I found a very broken man," said governing council member Muffaq al-Rubaiye.

He said Saddam would not look at Iraq's political leadership during their meeting and seemed to be trying to make eye contact with Paul Bremer, the chief U.S. administrator in Iraq and Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez, commander of U.S. forces in Iraq.

"He was, I think, psychologically ruined and very demoralized. His body language showed that he was very miserable. He felt safer with the Americans," Rubaiye added.

Looking ahead, U.S. officials said they plan to treat him the same way they treated top Al Qaeda prisoners like 9/11 plotter Khalid Sheik Muhammad, meaning his interrogation could last for months and that he could be subjected to physical and psychological pressures.


For more news, entertainment and sports coverage, click here for NYPost.com.


23 posted on 12/16/2003 5:28:07 AM PST by Forgiven_Sinner (Praying for the Kingdom of God.)
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To: Coop
A coworker just told me this. Fantastic news if true. He's the one suspected of masterminding some or all of the insurgent attacks.
With both The Spider Rat and al-Duri out of the picture, there's a good chance the insurgents will spend as much time bickering and attacking each other as they will committing terrorist attacks. It will really wreck their coherency.

-Eric

24 posted on 12/16/2003 5:29:06 AM PST by E Rocc
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To: 11th_VA
I hope this report is true.
25 posted on 12/16/2003 5:29:16 AM PST by Catspaw
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To: 11th_VA
Yesterday a grim faced Al-Qaetie Couric claimed that Saddam's capture was merely symbolic and that Al-Duri was the real mastermind over in Iraq. Watch for Al-Qaetie Couric to be even more grim-faced with this news.
26 posted on 12/16/2003 5:29:25 AM PST by PJ-Comix (Ladies and Gentlemen....WE GOT HIM!!!)
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To: 11th_VA
Senator Pat Roberts was just on Fox & Friends confirming an unconfirmed report by Richard Armitage that says al Douri has surrendered. Confused yet?
27 posted on 12/16/2003 5:30:28 AM PST by Republican Red (Karmic hugs welcomed!)
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To: 50sDad
He's the one suspected of masterminding some or all of the insurgent attacks.
28 posted on 12/16/2003 5:30:36 AM PST by Coop (God bless our troops!)
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To: E Rocc
With both The Spider Rat and al-Duri out of the picture, there's a good chance the insurgents will spend as much time bickering and attacking each other as they will committing terrorist attacks.

They had some video today of a few Baathist loyalists rioting because they felt humiliated by the way Saddam surrendered without a fight and looking like a bum in the rat hole who looked like he went months without a Baath.

29 posted on 12/16/2003 5:32:15 AM PST by PJ-Comix (Ladies and Gentlemen....WE GOT HIM!!!)
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To: Republican Red
The Rats are crawling out of their Rat Holes. Meanwhile here in the states the Rats are highly demoralized.
30 posted on 12/16/2003 5:33:23 AM PST by PJ-Comix (Ladies and Gentlemen....WE GOT HIM!!!)
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To: PJ-Comix
Katie was wearing black again this morning and looked rather haggard, so it MUST be true.



Am I the only person who thinks al Douri looks Irish? You sure don't see many Iraqi's with red hair and freckles.
31 posted on 12/16/2003 5:35:02 AM PST by Muzzle_em
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To: Forgiven_Sinner
If we were able to eventually break down Khalid Sheik Muhammad, which we did, we should have far less trouble with Saddam. He's a coward who feels betrayed by his own countrymen.
32 posted on 12/16/2003 5:35:18 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: PJ-Comix
BUMP
33 posted on 12/16/2003 5:35:44 AM PST by Pan_Yans Wife ("Your joy is your sorrow unmasked." --- GIBRAN)
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To: Forgiven_Sinner
"He's been fairly defiant," an official told Fox News. "While he's talkative, he's provided nothing substantial. His comments are self-serving, lengthy rationalizations of his behavior, and he punctuates a lot of it with wise-ass and deflective remarks."

Let's see how wise-ass and deflective he'll be after a few Q&A sessions with Jordanian interviewers.
34 posted on 12/16/2003 5:36:54 AM PST by aruanan
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To: MEG33
News from Kuwaiti sources is usually about as reliable as debkrap. But it would seem reasonable at this point. If true, I think the insurgency is finished.
35 posted on 12/16/2003 5:37:03 AM PST by epluribus_2
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To: 11th_VA
This guy is at least as dangerous as Saddam was.
I pray we got him.
36 posted on 12/16/2003 5:38:24 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (Ain't Skeered...)
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To: Republican Red
Senator Pat Roberts was just on Fox & Friends confirming an unconfirmed report by Richard Armitage that says al Douri has surrendered. Confused yet?

Please clarify. I presume you meant that Sen. Roberts was saying any reports are still unconfirmed. Yes?

37 posted on 12/16/2003 5:38:30 AM PST by Coop (God bless our troops!)
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To: 11th_VA
Fabulous news! If you drain the ~$1 billion in loose cash these old Saddam leader's had to spread around rewarding the insurrection, and these activities will start to dry up quickly. Not that all this stuff will be over, but the intensity and frequency of the attacks is bound to subside, despite the desperate wishes of Demo presidential candidates and French/Russian sympathizers.

Let's project what the next six months might look like: Iraq rapidly rebuilding as the cash authorized by Congress finally gets through the pipeline; Saddam being put on trial and the daily recounting of his crimes and horrors being broadcast to the world; the Iraqi Governing Council finally starting to take some more responsibility in advance of the transfer of power; other Arab states slinking covertly to the US to confess their sins and begging for forgiveness; etc. etc.

And then imagine Howard Dean and his ilk trying to continue their campaign of hatred for the Bush Administration. Sounds like a encouraging period for the USA and its defenders/supporters (too bad, Demo Underground).

38 posted on 12/16/2003 5:40:05 AM PST by ReleaseTheHounds
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To: E Rocc; hchutch
With both The Spider Rat and al-Duri out of the picture, there's a good chance the insurgents will spend as much time bickering and attacking each other as they will committing terrorist attacks. It will really wreck their coherency.

What we should do is release a senior insurgent. Drop him off in front of a known haunt for insurgents. Thank him profusely, and stuff a big wad of cash in his pocket. (c8

39 posted on 12/16/2003 5:40:44 AM PST by Poohbah ("Beware the fury of a patient man" -- John Dryden)
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To: 11th_VA
"Saddam's No 2 may have surrendered to coalition forces in Iraq: Kuwait TV"

I would imagine Saddam's No 2 is still in that hole, where he left it when the Americans showed up.

40 posted on 12/16/2003 5:41:07 AM PST by Freemyland
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To: PJ-Comix
Notice Katie and Judy Woodruff wearing their protest black on monday morning - this is too wierd as they ALWAYS do this on a good day for the president.
41 posted on 12/16/2003 5:41:34 AM PST by epluribus_2
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To: Forgiven_Sinner
"He's been fairly defiant," an official told Fox News. "While he's talkative, he's provided nothing substantial. His comments are self-serving, lengthy rationalizations of his behavior, and he punctuates a lot of it with wise-ass and deflective remarks."

Why don't they just shoot his ass with the latest truth serum drug du jour and get it over with? Or is that too obvious?

42 posted on 12/16/2003 5:41:38 AM PST by MrConfettiMan (Why is it that our children can't read a Bible in school, but they can in prison?)
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To: Forgiven_Sinner
Thanks for that post - it's contray to everything the RATs have been saying about the capture...
43 posted on 12/16/2003 5:41:43 AM PST by 11th_VA (If you can read this IN ENGLISH - Thank a Veteran !!!)
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To: 11th_VA
Izzat al-Douri?

LOL.

44 posted on 12/16/2003 5:42:26 AM PST by mewzilla
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To: Coop
That's the way I took it.

Fox had Hamid Alkifaey from the Iraqi Governing Council on, and he has confirmed that he has heard the rumor. ;-)

Wes Clark up next on F&F.

45 posted on 12/16/2003 5:43:11 AM PST by StriperSniper (Sending the Ba'thist to the showers! ;-)
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To: Poohbah
With both The Spider Rat and al-Duri out of the picture, there's a good chance the insurgents will spend as much time bickering and attacking each other as they will committing terrorist attacks. It will really wreck their coherency.

What we should do is release a senior insurgent. Drop him off in front of a known haunt for insurgents. Thank him profusely, and stuff a big wad of cash in his pocket. (c8

Naw, kidnap him and set him up in a high-end place in Qatar with "bodyguards" who are actually guards then "leak" all kinds of disinformation. >:)

-Eric

46 posted on 12/16/2003 5:45:42 AM PST by E Rocc
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To: Muzzle_em
Am I the only person who thinks al Douri looks Irish? You sure don't see many Iraqi's with red hair and freckles.

Although his real father could be Red Buttons.

47 posted on 12/16/2003 5:46:47 AM PST by PJ-Comix (Ladies and Gentlemen....WE GOT HIM!!!)
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To: 11th_VA

48 posted on 12/16/2003 5:47:32 AM PST by Hatteras (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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To: Freemyland
Now THAT'S funny!
49 posted on 12/16/2003 5:48:41 AM PST by Muzzle_em
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To: 11th_VA
From the Saudi's I found this:

http://www.ain-al-yaqeen.com/issues/20031212/feat8en.htm

Saad Mohammed Al-Duri was captured near Hawijah, 45 kilometres (28 miles) west of Kirkuk as rumours flew that his boss, Izzat Ibrahim al-Duri, had been arrested or even killed. Hawijah police chief Awad Al-Obeidi said the man was arrested in a house where he had been hiding.

Kirkuk's police chief, General Turhan Yusef, said 40,000 dollars was found in the man's possession, which was ''suspected of being used to finance attacks on the US-led coalition.'' Across north-central Iraq, more than 100 people were nabbed in what Yusef decribed as a ''one-off operation aimed at finding Izzat Ibrahim based on specific intelligence.''

An official of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan, the dominant Kurdish faction in Kirkuk, said a former general in the disbanded Iraqi army was also arrested in the raids, as was Hamid Saad, a senior official of Saddam's former ruling Baath party in charge of youth and student affairs.

Earlier, a senior police official in Kirkuk said US military had launched ''the biggest search operation ever'' in the area to hunt for Duri, the suspected paymaster of many attacks on the coalition. The operation was concentrated on Hawijah and the village of Rashad, 60 kilometers (37 miles) to the south, he added.
50 posted on 12/16/2003 5:48:57 AM PST by Forgiven_Sinner (Praying for the Kingdom of God.)
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