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Cardinal Says U.S. Treated Saddam 'Like a Cow'
Yahoo! News / Reuters ^ | 12-16-2003 | Philip Pullella

Posted on 12/16/2003 5:54:51 AM PST by sitetest

Edited on 12/16/2003 7:13:44 AM PST by Lead Moderator. [history]

[LM's note: This thread is degenerating a bit into Catholic bashing and general flaming, and is in risk of being moved to the smokey backroom. Please stop. I've locked it once, and it has continued. Any more and it is gone. Thanks.]

VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - A top Vatican (news - web sites) official said Tuesday he felt pity and compassion for Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) and criticized the U.S. military for showing video footage of him being treated "like a cow."

Cardinal Renato Martino, head of the Vatican's Justice and Peace department and a former papal envoy to the United Nations (news - web sites), told a news conference it would be "illusory" to think the arrest of the former Iraqi president would heal all the damage caused by a war which the Holy See opposed.

"I felt pity to see this man destroyed, (the military) looking at his teeth as if he were a cow. They could have spared us these pictures," he said.

"Seeing him like this, a man in his tragedy, despite all the heavy blame he bears, I had a sense of compassion for him," he said in answer to questions about Saddam's arrest.

Martino was referring to the videotape released by the U.S. military which showed a grubby, bearded and disheveled Saddam receiving a medical examination by a military doctor after his capture in an underground hole Saturday.

Martino was one of the Vatican officials most strongly opposed to the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq (news - web sites).

"It's true that we should be happy that this (arrest) has come about because it is the watershed that was necessary... we hope that this will not have worse and other serious consequences," Martino said.

"But it is not the total solution to the problems of the Middle East," he said.

Martino said the Vatican hoped the arrest of Saddam "can contribute to promoting peace and the democratization of Iraq."

He added: "But is seems to me to be illusory to hope that this will repair the dramas and the damage of the defeat for humanity that a war always brings about."

The Vatican did not consider the war in Iraq "a just war" because it was not backed by the United Nations and because the Vatican believed more negotiations were necessary to avoid it.

Martino said the Vatican wanted an "appropriate institution" to put Saddam on trial but he did not elaborate.

U.S. forces were keeping the ousted 66-year-old dictator at a secret location for interrogation before he is put on trial in the months ahead. He could face the death penalty.

The news conference was called for Martino to present the World Day of Peace message, in which Pope John Paul (news - web sites) took a swipe at the United States for invading Iraq without the backing of the United Nations.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cardinalcrackpot; cardinalmartino; catholic; cow; iraq; prisonersaddam; saddamhussein; viceisclosed; war
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What can I say?
1 posted on 12/16/2003 5:54:52 AM PST by sitetest
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2 posted on 12/16/2003 5:55:47 AM PST by sitetest
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To: sitetest
Tell the good Cardinal that the Arabs would treat him like a sheep.
3 posted on 12/16/2003 5:55:54 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: sitetest
A cow?

A cow????
4 posted on 12/16/2003 5:57:13 AM PST by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might.)
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If this was already posted, I apologize. I didn't find it.

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5 posted on 12/16/2003 5:57:51 AM PST by sitetest
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To: sitetest
More pity than he's EVER expressed for Saddam's innocent victims.
6 posted on 12/16/2003 5:58:04 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
Tell the good Cardinal that the Arabs would treat him like a sheep.

BRAVO!! The "church" needs to keep their mouths shut.

7 posted on 12/16/2003 5:58:27 AM PST by Elkiejg (Clintons have ruined America)
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To: sitetest
Cardinal Renato Martino, head of the Vatican's Justice and Peace department

Yeah. Right.

8 posted on 12/16/2003 5:58:37 AM PST by mewzilla
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A good thing this jackass wasn't around during the battle of Lepanto.
9 posted on 12/16/2003 5:58:46 AM PST by Loyalist (Conservative Party of Canada: A truly progressive alliance!)
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To: sitetest
we hope that this will not have worse and other serious consequences," Martino said.

Huh?

10 posted on 12/16/2003 5:58:46 AM PST by Vermonter (If you can keep your head while everyone around you loses theirs, you'll be taller than they are)
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He ought to know. That's how a lot of his friends have treated young boys.
11 posted on 12/16/2003 5:59:18 AM PST by zook
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To: sitetest
I'm speechless---but didn't a member of the Church hierarchy meet with Tariq Aziz shortly before the war?
12 posted on 12/16/2003 5:59:29 AM PST by Catspaw
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""Seeing him like this, a man in his tragedy, despite all the heavy blame he bears, I had a sense of compassion for him," he said in answer to questions about Saddam's arrest."

Misplaced compassion for all that. His victims deserve better. Begin Catholic, I understand the theology behind that statement, but Sen. John McCain said it best,

"We are coming. God may have mercy on you, but we will not."

13 posted on 12/16/2003 5:59:36 AM PST by OpusatFR (Al Dean and Howard Gore, separated at birth.)
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To: sitetest
Moo Moo, I love you!
14 posted on 12/16/2003 5:59:43 AM PST by MarkeyD (Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction.)
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"It's true that we should be happy that this (arrest) has come about because it is the watershed that was necessary

He knows he should be happy, but he's obviously rather upset by it.

15 posted on 12/16/2003 5:59:48 AM PST by Dog Gone
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16 posted on 12/16/2003 6:00:14 AM PST by sitetest
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A good reason why religious people should not get involved in politics. I would like to hear what he would have saiid in the spectacle of the Red troops going through Hitler's ashes. This guy should shut up because he is a fool.
17 posted on 12/16/2003 6:00:59 AM PST by ontos-on
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You are sooooooo correct in mentioning there was little pitty by this cardinal for his innocent victims who not only had bullets shot into the back of their heads (and those were the ones who got off easy) and were killed in mass by his thugs. Saddam is fortunate he even can breath today after what he has done to so many.
18 posted on 12/16/2003 6:01:09 AM PST by never4get (Johnnie Lynn Must Go!)
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To: sitetest
I apologize to the cows of the World for what the Cardinal said.
19 posted on 12/16/2003 6:01:45 AM PST by leadpenny
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To: sitetest
We did not EITHER treat him like a cow. Jeez.

Now a pig, on the other hand...

}:-)4
20 posted on 12/16/2003 6:01:45 AM PST by Moose4 ("The road goes on forever, and the party never ends." --Robert Earl Keen)
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