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Anti-war myths quickly eroding
Jewish World Review ^ | Dec. 16, 2003 | Jonathan Gurwitz

Posted on 12/16/2003 6:58:31 AM PST by SJackson

Criticism of the U.S. effort to depose Saddam Hussein — and the central role of Baathist Iraq in international terrorism — has rested on four pillars.

The first pillar — that the war in Iraq was a failure without the capture or death of Saddam Hussein — came crashing to an ignominious end Saturday night on a farm near Tikrit. The tyrant who struck terror in the hearts of millions of his own citizens, the butcher who sent hundreds of thousands of people to unmarked graves across Iraq, is now a prisoner.

The irony is great that a man who buried so many victims in the earth was himself pulled from the ground, alive and safe, by those sent to liberate his long-suffering country.

Images of a tired and haggard Saddam, compliantly being checked for lice, opening his mouth for a medical examination and the fact that the self-styled, modern-day Saladin gave up without resistance all will have a profound psychological impact.

That impact will be felt first and foremost in Iraq where, as British Prime Minister Tony Blair said, a shadow has been lifted from the Iraqi people. Ordinary Iraqis can now confidently believe that their march toward democracy is irreversible. Saddam and his henchmen will never return to power and exact retribution.

By the same token, Baathist dead-enders must now unequivocally understand that their terrorist attacks against coalition forces and free Iraqis are futile.

Their extremist allies, both secular and religious, across the Arab and Islamic world are similarly demoralized. Their symbol of defiance, the man who waved swords and fired rifles into the air before adoring crowds, surrendered. He neither fought nor took his own life.

The second pillar of criticism asserts that Saddam's Iraq had nothing to do with the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks against the United States. That pillar is also crumbling.

...snip...

The third pillar of criticism ridicules the notion that Saddam possessed weapons of mass destruction or programs to produce them. This pillar, too, is crumbling.

...snip...

The final pillar of criticism rests on the failure, thus far, to capture or kill Osama bin Laden. Saddam's capture demonstrates that American intelligence is working, and that the discovery of bin Laden's whereabouts, like the disposition of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction, is only a matter of time.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: antiwar; iraq; myth
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1 posted on 12/16/2003 6:58:31 AM PST by SJackson
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To: SJackson
The first pillar — that the war in Iraq was a failure without the capture or death of Saddam Hussein — came crashing to an ignominious end Saturday night on a farm near Tikrit.
But don't you understand how the left will spin this? They always knew that Saddam would be captured. Saddam's capture changes nothing.

Just like they predicted doom before the war and then after the war changed the party line to: We always knew the US would win the first phase of the war. That means nothing.

In the words of Lieberman, they are living in spider-holes of denial.

(Have to give the old RAT credit, that is a GREAT catch-phrase.)

2 posted on 12/16/2003 7:02:14 AM PST by samtheman
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To: SJackson
LOL

$200 billion debt financed war, more socialism at home, restrictions on free speech...why does this Wilsonian phony not consider an honest argument?
3 posted on 12/16/2003 7:03:14 AM PST by JohnGalt (Attention Pseudocons: Wilsonianrepublic.com is still available)
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To: samtheman
And don't leave out the Spinerazzi of choice: We knew all along where Saddam was, and only timed the staged "finding" of him for political advantage, while the Bush polls were falling, economy collapsing, and Dean riding high on his white horse, etc.
4 posted on 12/16/2003 7:10:12 AM PST by C210N
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To: SJackson
You just know that when we catch bin Laden the liberals will say:

-- It's no big deal, because he has been too busy hiding and hasn't been ccordinating the attacks anyway. Anyway, he was just a sick old man.

-- A Democrat president would have found him sooner.

-- We already had captured him, and were just hiding the information until it would do the most political good for Bush.

-- The capture will only create more anti-US violence because it will really enrage the terrorists.

-- We are violating his human rights.

-- Finding Osama was the easy part, but how are we going to dismantle world-wide terrorist networks?

-- If he is proven dead, that only means that we executed him without a trial to silence him so the world would never find out about Bush's complicity in 9-11.

5 posted on 12/16/2003 7:20:46 AM PST by Maceman (Too nuanced for a bumper sticker)
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To: samtheman
But don't you understand how the left will spin this? They always knew that Saddam would be captured. Saddam's capture changes nothing.

Listen, they cay spin this all they want, but reality will defeat them at every turn. Those on the left who want to avoid looking like fools (and there are some, including many of those who have some connection with reality) will have to cut their losses and look elsewhere for ways to bash Bush and America.

The capture of Saddam Hussein is huge, historic. It can not be undone by rhetoric, which is increasingly the only refuge of the left. It is of a piece with the fall of the Soviet Union. The left has no successes to which to refer, and is increasingly the realm of fools and the mad, and of those who know how to make use of them.

(steely)

6 posted on 12/16/2003 7:27:05 AM PST by Steely Tom
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To: samtheman
Heck, the leftist spin on his capture is: "It will hurt the US! It only enrages other Arabs!"
7 posted on 12/16/2003 7:30:14 AM PST by Guillermo (Shoot me if you ever see me on a Kobe Bryant, Michael Jackson or Scott Peterson thread)
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To: SJackson
Images of a tired and haggard Saddam, compliantly being checked for lice, opening his mouth for a medical examination

When are people going to understand that he was being checked for weapons (as in a sharp object in his hair) and cyanide capsules in his teeth? Above all else, we didn't/don't want him doing what Goering or Himmler did and escaping true justice.

8 posted on 12/16/2003 7:40:46 AM PST by Ancesthntr
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To: Maceman
Keep your list handy. We should all make a list like this. Im willing to bet that you'll hit on just about all of those predictions (if not all of them). The radical left has become real easy to predict.
9 posted on 12/16/2003 7:56:23 AM PST by CastleMan95
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To: JohnGalt
why does this Wilsonian phony ........(same 'ole blather)

Hey, jonny, case you hadn't heard, we got saddam. And it cost incredible amounts of your money, just tons and tons of the stuff. Forget the fact that we're winning the war, just concentrate on the fact that, come next april, more of your money is going to be taken to support a war that in the long run, will make us safer. Not that it matters because there are more important things, like, your money.

(better be glad there was a President Wilson, otherwise, you'd have to find something really significant to whine about)

10 posted on 12/16/2003 8:11:02 AM PST by tbpiper
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To: SJackson
The general public, even those that vote, only remember big headlines and their own personal interests when they vote. Absent any major blunder in the next year, the vast majority of voters will remember that (a) they have more money or a job (improving economy, tax cuts), and (b) Bush brought down Saddam Hussein. The dems have nada/zilch/nothing in comparison.
11 posted on 12/16/2003 8:18:26 AM PST by randog (Everything works great 'til the current flows.)
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To: tbpiper
What war are we winning Robespierre?

Just because you are so deathly frightened of the cave dwellers and easily led to believe that the cave dwellers are hiding under your bed, doesn't make you a conservative, it doesn't make you a patriot, and assuredly you are know friend of liberty.

Face it tbpiper, you are just a girly man hoping the State will protect you.

Phony indeed. You are nothing but a leftist cheering on your favorite welfare program.
12 posted on 12/16/2003 8:20:09 AM PST by JohnGalt (Attention Pseudocons: Wilsonianrepublic.com is still available)
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To: JohnGalt; All
"$200 billion debt financed war, more socialism at home, restrictions on free speech...why does this Wilsonian phony not consider an honest argument?"

Crank alert. He would have said the same thing in 1942.

13 posted on 12/16/2003 8:25:42 AM PST by zook
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To: zook
Ahh, Professor Kantorek.

Is it my commitment to principal rather than commitment to your Great Patriotic Wars that so erks you?

Do you really think the cave dwellers are on par with Tojo?

Gubmint school prof indeed.
14 posted on 12/16/2003 8:28:08 AM PST by JohnGalt (Attention Pseudocons: Wilsonianrepublic.com is still available)
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To: JohnGalt
Jonny, you've got to be my absolue favorit bass.
15 posted on 12/16/2003 8:35:40 AM PST by tbpiper
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To: tbpiper
And you are my favorite female gubmint pensioner.
16 posted on 12/16/2003 8:50:49 AM PST by JohnGalt (neo-“Mac, Leroy, and José, you do the fighting and dying, we’ll do the talking”-cons)
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To: SJackson
Bin laden is dead.
17 posted on 12/16/2003 8:54:40 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: samtheman
(Have to give the old RAT credit, that is a GREAT catch-phrase.)

Lieberman is the best of a bad lot.

18 posted on 12/16/2003 9:01:25 AM PST by wizardoz ("Let's roll!" ........................................................ "We got him!")
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To: JohnGalt
And you are my favorite female gubmint pensioner.

I might be offended if:
1. You actually said something truthful, and
2. You were a person of substance.

(You're going to have to get some new insults, these are getting a little threadbare.)

19 posted on 12/16/2003 9:04:57 AM PST by tbpiper
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To: JohnGalt
Is it my commitment to principal rather than commitment to your Great Patriotic Wars that so erks you?

Your "principle" would get us all killed.

Johnny, like the Deaniacs, you and Ron Paul are becoming more and more irrelevant.

20 posted on 12/16/2003 9:05:47 AM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
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