Skip to comments.Giving Thomas Jefferson the Business: The Jefferson-Hemings Hoax
Posted on 12/16/2003 11:18:44 AM PST by mrustow
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"A" child? :)
How do you know what he's read in the past?
Or have some idea what the DNA evidence actually says: Simply that some male member of the general Jefferson family is an ancestor of at least some of the Hemmings descendants.
Etymology can help you.
No, both sides are premising their arguments on the belief that if Jefferson did father children on his slave he was a hypocrite and a racist.
I reject that.
Whether or not he had a black concubine, he was living an honest and moral life within the mores of the time and place.
He cannot be judged by a standard that was completely unknown during his life.
Did he deny it during his lifetime? Yes.
If what he said was untrue, he was acting as a gentleman to protect his privacy and dignity. Calling that a lie is simplistic.
Ah, that's cute.
I agree with his view on the subject based on what I HAVE read, as well. His reading, my reading....same conclusion, etc.
|In the News/Activism forum, on a thread titled Giving Thomas Jefferson the Business: The Jefferson-Hemings Hoax, TomServo wrote: Ping! I believe you had a few links on this junk.
Thomas Jefferson and Sally Hemings
An article in the November 5, 1998, edition of Nature provides DNA evidence that Thomas Jefferson or some other male Jefferson such as Randolph, the brother of Thomas, could have been the father of one of the sons of Sally Hemings, who was a slave at Jefferson's Monticello. The technique relies on the fact that the human Y-chromosome is handed down directly from father to son and that all paternally related males will have the same Y-chromosome. Although Thomas Jefferson did not have any sons who survived to produce children, his father's brother, Field Jefferson, did have sons and it has been possible to locate 5 descendants of Field Jefferson who are in a direct male-line of descent. Thus, these individuals (descendants of Field Jefferson) should have the same Y-chromosome DNA as the Y-chromosome DNA of Thomas Jefferson and any male-line descendant of his.
Other Sites of Interest
Y Chromosome DNA Data on Jefferson and Hemings
Defining the Possible Link Between Thomas Jefferson and Sally Hemings:
|Bi Allelic Markers||Microsatellite STR||Mini Satellite MSY1|
|Jefferson||J41||0000001||15,12,4,11,3,9,11,10,15,13,7||(3)5, (1)14, (3)32, (4)16|
|J42||0000001||15,12,4,11,3,9,11,10,15,13,7||(3)5, (1)14, (3)32, (4)16|
|J47||0000001||15,12,4,11,3,9,11,10,15,13,7||(3)5, (1)14, (3)32, (4)16|
|J49||0000001||15,12,4,11,3,9,11,10,15,13,7||(3)5, (1)14, (3)32, (4)16|
|J50||0000001||15,12,4,11,3,9,11,10,16,13,7||(3)5, (1)14, (3)32, (4)16|
|Hemings||H21||0000001||15,12,4,11,3,9,11,10,15,13,7||(3)5, (1)14, (3)32, (4)16|
|Carr||C27||0000011||14,12,5,12,3,10,11,10,13,13,7||(1)17, (3)36, (4)21|
|C29||0000011||14,12,5,11,3,10,11,10,13,13,7||(1)17, (3)37, (4)21|
|C31||0000011||14,12,5,12,3,10,11,10,13,13,7||(1)17, (3)36, (4)21|
|Woodson||W55||0000011||14,12,5,11,3,10,11,13,13,13,7||(1)16, (3)27, (4)21|
|W56||0000011||14,12,5,11,3,10,11,13,13,13,7||(1)16, (3)27, (4)21|
|W69||0000011||14,12,5,11,3,10,11,13,13,13,7||(1)16, (3)27, (4)21|
|W70||1110001||17,12,6,11,3,11,8,10,11,14,6||(0)1, (3a)3, (1a)11,
(3a)30, (4a)14, (4)2
|W61||0000011||14,12,5,11,3,10,11,13,13,13,7||(1)16, (3)28, (4)20|
All in all, case not proven. And still unlikely.
Nit-pick alert: Emancipation, by definition, ended the practice.
You are making a serious error in logic here. We only have evidence for one of Sally Hemmings children, Eston. We do not know the father of the others, except that a Jefferson did not father Thomas Woodson. Since two of the children had different fathers, how do you conclude that the others had the same father?
Of course there is also Randolph's proclivity for fraternizing with the slaves:
Isaac Jefferson, in his "Memoirs of a Monticello Slave," as dictated to Charles Campbell, made the following statement:
"Old Master's brother, Mass Randall[sic], was a mighty simple man: used to come out among black people, play the fiddle and dance half the night; hadn't much more sense than Isaac." (JB p 22)
My sympathies are with your family as you deal with both the reality of some connection and the calumny heaped upon your most distinguished family member.